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i think we see new hd channels this year and has been confirmed on virgin media facebook page as you know denphone
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go view all 136 moments about sky anytime http://www.facebook.com/pages/Virgin...08034835891645 |
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You better sit down Tony Dalton, Kyle Sanderson and Clive Knott... because we've got no more HD channels being added. We've come along way in a year and a half, when we only had one HD channel (BBC HD). Now if you want any more, you'll have to go elsewhere. Watch virginmedia.com because if we actually reveal anything before its on there we'll probably be given our marching orders. Pete |
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Sky News HD and Sky Sports News HD coming soon ?
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Its took them 9 month upto Sky Arts 1 & 2 HD so I don't think any more fruit will be gathered from that deal 12 month on. Also, please stop linking to any hint, rumour, murmur, wall carving and inkling of news, clearly anything the VM staff know they're not allowed to say based on the staff that are on here so they're not going to give away anything on Virginmedia.com or VM social networking accounts are they? |
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Virgin Media News: Virgin Media sells UKTV stake to Scripps for £339m.
For more info to go this thread: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/10...e-scripps.html No info was given on if Virgin Media has got the rights to carry any new channels as part of deal. |
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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35288236-post2.html If Virgin has got the rights to UKTV HD Channels we may also have: Eden +1 YeSTERDAY +1 Food Network Food Network +1 ---------- Post added at 11:42 ---------- Previous post was at 11:27 ---------- My Insider has confrim that UKTV Channels HD to launch on Virgin as part of deal. Eden HD and Good Food HD will launch soon follow by Watch HD and Dave HD in October, with Alibi HD due to go live in 2012. |
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August List update.
Keep up-to-date on the latest news on upcoming channel launches and other important events across all platforms of Virgin TV network. NOTE: I do not work for Virgin Media so all the information on this list is subject to change. BOLD = New Colours on my list are as followed: Media Boy = New Info just added. Media Boy = Virgin Media News. Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: = It an Media Boy EXCLUSIVE and you can only see it on this thread. Media Boy = Other Media news/Things. === Coming up on Virgin's Digital TV === === TBC === Eden HD and Good Food HD will launch soon on Virgin Media. === August === No News... === September === 5th. Coming soon to Virgin TV Vol. VI launches today on Cable Forum. === October === Watch HD and Dave HD to launch on Virgin Media. Virgin Media are to update their TiVo Boxes. === November === 1st. PBS UK may launch on Virgin Media - Talks still ongoing. === December === No News... === January 2012 === No News... === February 2012 === No News... === March 2012 === No News... === April 2012 === No News... === May 2012 === No News... === June 2012 === No News... === July 2012 === No News... === August 2012 === No News... === September 2012 === No News... === October 2012 === No News... === November 2012 === No News... === December 2012 === No News... === By 2013 === Alibi HD to launch on Virgin Media. === By 2015 === RTE Radio and WRN Radio will be axe in old Telewest areas or added to all areas of Virgin Media. === Unknown dates === -UKTV on Demand may launch on Virgin on Demand. -MTVN HD will be rebranded as MTV Live HD on Virgin Channel 310. -TCM to be rebranded on Virgin Channel 415. -The BBC may axe BBC Three or BBC Four from Virgin Channels 106 or 107 (And other networks) has part of BBC Cuts. -Channel 4's ''4oD'' will offer HD content. -Diva TV will be rebranded as Diva Universal on Virgin Channel 164. -Ginx TV may launch on Virgin Media. -Virgin Media will soon launch Phase 2 of Sky Sports red button followed by TiVo viewers getting Sky Sports interactive service. -Virgin Media will cease all analogue television transmissions. -Zing may relaunch on Virgin Media. === The following channels are rumoured to be launching or in talks with Virgin Media === List last updated on August 15th 2011. -PBS UK (Are said to be in talks with Virgin.) -Al Jazeera -Premier Sports -Quest +1 -Russia Today -NDTV -Pick TV +1 -CBS Action -CBS Drama -CBS Reality +1 -Horror Channel +1 === Channels THAT still to appear in all areas === List was last updated on December 1st 2010. NO. Channel Name 917. Radio: RTE Radio 920. Radio: WRN Europe NOTE: Channels are only broadcasting in Ex-Telewest areas right now. ====== Media Boy Information ===== Media Boy - Keep it real and FREE on Cable Forum. === Media Boy Extra info: === Latest news on Local TV - http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/local-tv Latest news on local TV - http://www.culture.gov.uk/what_we_do...ting/7235.aspx === Ask Media Boy === Last updated July 17th 2011 Q: WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION ABOUT VIRGIN MEDIA FROM? A: I get all my info from Virgin Media viewers and Web Sites (NOTE: When I used web sites I will post an link to that web site). Q: WHY AM I NOT GETTING ''RTE RADIO'' OR ''WRN RADIO'' FOR? A: RTE Radio and WRN Radio do not broadcast in Ex-ntl and Ex-Cable & Wireless areas - yet. Q: NOW THAT BSKYB HAS TOOK OVER VIRGIN MEDIA TELEVISION WILL ANY CHANNELS CLOSE ON VIRGIN TV? A: Yes Sky has closed Bravo, Channel One and Challenge Jackpot down. But us Virgin Media viewers will see some channels moving about as we have now got Sky1 HD, Sky Arts 1 HD and Sky Arts 2 HD on our network. ==== Deals with broadcasters === List last updated on August 1st 2011. When deals with broadcasters run out Virgin Media need to sign new one to keep that Channel on Virgin TV. Here is an list of channel that Virgin may get when they old deal runs out with that broadcaster: NOTE: Only Broadcasts who has got some Channels broadcasting on Virgin Media right appeared on this list. To start broadcasting soon = That channel has still to start broadcasting on Sky, Freesat or Freeview. === TV and Radio Channels: === === Own by AETN UK === Bio HD Crime & Investigation Network HD Crime & Investigation Network +1 HISTORY HD HISTORY +1 === Own by ABC Television Group === Disney Cinemagic HD Disney Cinemagic +1 Disney Junior + Disney XD HD === Own by ARY Group === ARY News QTV ARY === Own by BSkyB === Pick TV +1 Sky 3D Sky Atlantic Sky Atlantic HD Sky Movies Classic HD Sky News HD Sky Sports HD3 Sky Sports HD4 Sky Sports News HD === Own by CBS International and Chello Zone === CBS Action CBS Drama CBS Reality +1 Horror Channel +1 === Own by Channel 4 Television Corporation === More 4 +1 === Own by CSC Media Group === Bliss Chart Show TV Dance Nation TV Flava Kix! NME TV POP Pop Girl Pop Girl +1 Scuzz The Vault Tiny Pop +1 True Movies 2 === Own by Discovery Networks Europe === Animal Planet +1 Discovery Home & Health +1 Discovery Knowledge +1 Discovery Science +1 DMAX +1 DMAX +2 Investigation Discovery TLC (To start broadcast in the UK in 2011.) Quest +1 === Own by ESPN Inc. (The Walt Disney Company/Hearst Corporation) === ESPN America HD === Own by GMG Radio === Real Radio Real Radio XS (Soon to start broadcasting). Rock Radio (Soon to be rebranded as Real Radio XS.) === Own by ITV Digital Channels Ltd === ITV2 HD ITV3 HD ITV4 HD === Own by NBC Universal Global Networks === Diva TV +1 Universal Channel HD === Own by NGC Europe Limited === FX +1 Nat Wild HD === Own by Sony === NOTE: The following channels will become part of the ''ViewAsia'' package if Sony can sign an new deal Virgin Media: ARY Digital^ B4U Movies^ Colors^ MAX^ SAB Sahara One SET Asia^ ^ = On Virgin Media right now. === Own by Sony Pictures Television === Sony Entertainment Television Sony Entertainment Television +1 === Own by STAR TV === STAR Gold STAR One === Own by TIML Radio Limited === Absolute 90s === Own by Turner Broadcasting System Europe === TCM 2 === Own by UKTV === Eden +1 YeSTERDAY +1 === Own by Viacom === BET BET +1 Comedy Central Extra +1 MTV CLASSIC MTV MUSIC MTV +1 Nickelodeon HD NickToons Replay === Own by Zee Entertainment Enterprises === ZEE Cafe Zing Next update: September - unless: A) If Virgin are set to launch more than THREE channels (TV or Radio) on Virgin TV. B) If Virgin are set to move more than THREE channels (TV or Radio) about on Virgin TV. C) If Virgin are set to close or repackage more then THREE channels (TV or Radio ) on Virgin TV. ©copyright 2011 Media Boy 2006 - 2011. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production. |
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Mirror: Olympics radio station to be launched by BBC.
The BBC is to launch a temporary Olympics radio station for London 2012. The plan for a new digital and online service was given the go-ahead by the BBC Trust today. It has also approved plans to devote youth channel BBC3 to broadcasting the event next summer for its duration. But Freeview viewers will lose BBC Parliament to free up the broadcasting capacity on Freeview, but it will resume if Parliament is recalled in that time. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/london-...5875-23346684/ The 2012 Summer Olympics are planned to take place between 27 July 2012 and 12 August 2012. |
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Cartoon Network HD As usually virgin media are always "in active discussions" Media Boy you should add this to your virgin tv list update
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Sometimes we are told this thread is for the facts so people make other threads to discuss that and then they get closed and we are told to post in here and the cycle continues. It would only take a moment, do a mods only poll or something. If you have all got together and worked it out already just explain that in the thread so we know it's not a moving target. Also if you have told us not to discuss it in this thread maybe it's best if your next post doesn't start talking about the thing you have told us not to talk about. Thanks Chris |
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Hi, Can I apologise for the confusion that has arisen over this issue about what can be discussed in this thread. My previous ruling stands and that is, that this thread can be used for gossip about future products. Just to be clear to those who are not aware. I am one of the owners of this website, My ruling countermands any other moderators instruction. |
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Marvelous! Thanks Mick. Slightly annoyed my posts were taken off for nothing earlier in the day but there you go... :)
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i see virgin as addy sky sports on TiVo app i1st time i been in there for few weeks .
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A lot of this thread is speculation about what is, or might be, coming to Virgin TV. Thus a lot of the comment is unsubstantiated, unannounced, product observation. It's quite reasonable for you to be discussing such matters.
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Just back online after Virgin doing some ''improvements to my area''.
I just found that my Total Channels has been cut: Yesterday - TS Streams 48 - Total Servs 376. Now - TS Streams 47 - Total Servs 375. Info from my V+ and SA Box, some boxes may very. |
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TS Streams 47 - Total Servs 357
this is my total channels from my v hd box |
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Virgin Media on Twitter: Talks still ongoing with BSkyB over Sky Atlantic launch on Virgin Media.
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Any News on The CBS Channels, Disney Channel HD, Disney XD HD, Nickelodeon HD etc Coming to Virginmedia?.
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Talks, talks and talks, they must be like a bunch of women, always talking.
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Discovery Travel & Living to make may for TLC UK.
When Discovery launch TLC here in the UK we will be saying goodbye to Discovery Travel & Living - I do not an launch date for TLC UK yet. Q: WHY DO YOU THINK DISCOVERY WILL AXE TRAVEL & LIVING FOR TLC TO LAUNCH IN THE UK AND IRELAND? A: Since March 2010 Discovery has replace all the following versions of Discovery Travel & Living with TLC. In Europe: -Norway -Poland -Balkans (Slovenia, Serbia and Bulgaria.) -Hungary (From September 2011) -The Czech Republic (From September 2011) -Slovakia (From September 2011) |
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Coming Soon to Virgin TV Vol. 4 to launch next month.
Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. 4 will launch on Cable Forum on September 5th. ---------- Post added at 17:32 ---------- Previous post was at 17:26 ---------- Virgin insider: Virgin Media in talks with ITV over missing ITV HD Channels. The following is from an insider. Quote:
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Nothing says 17 a year though? They could launch 5 this year and the rest next year?
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i thought virgin were already in talks with ITV for their other HD channels?
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An insider that I knew back in ntl: days told me that most of the negotiations surrounded which pack they were in and if they were, who else would be in that pack. Today with the M, L & XL it would hopefully be easier, but contract negotiations are rarely quick.
Plus this cost Virgin money. Every non shopping channel they pay for. They then have to ensure that they can get their money back from advertising and subscriptions. This is unlike Sky where the channel pays them to use their platform. This is why Sky gets the channels at launch. |
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Channels do not pay sky, except for a EPG fee, to be in their pack selection. They get a cut from subscription prices and have to pay rental fees to Astra.
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Mirror: Record-breaking Impact Wrestling moves to Sunday nights on Challenge TV.
Impact Wrestling will now be broadcast on Sunday nights (at 9pm from August 28th) in the UK and Ireland after winning record ratings on Challenge TV. Replay will now move to Tuesday night at 10pm. http://mma.mirror.co.uk/2011/08/22/r...-challenge-tv/ Challenge TV is broadcasting on Virgin Channel 139. |
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August List update.
Keep up-to-date on the latest news on upcoming channel launches and other important events across all platforms of Virgin TV network. NOTE: I do not work for Virgin Media so all the information on this list is subject to change. BOLD = New Colours on my list are as followed: Media Boy = New Info just added. Media Boy = Virgin Media News. Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: = It an Media Boy EXCLUSIVE and you can only see it on this thread. Media Boy = Other Media news/Things. === Coming up on Virgin's Digital TV === === TBC === Eden HD and Good Food HD will launch soon on Virgin Media. === August === No News... === September === No News... === October === 1st. ---- Watch HD and Dave HD to launch on Virgin Media. Virgin Media are to update their TiVo Boxes. === November === 1st. PBS UK may launch on Virgin Media - Talks still ongoing. === December === No News... === January 2012 === Coming soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 1 launches on Cable Forum. === February 2012 === No News... === March 2012 === No News... === April 2012 === No News... === May 2012 === No News... === June 2012 === No News... === July 2012 === 19th. BBC Three will broadcast all day long until August 13th on Virgin Media Channel 106. === August 2012 === 13th. BBC Three will go back to its 7pm starting time from today on Virgin Media Channel 106. === September 2012 === No News... === October 2012 === No News... === November 2012 === No News... === December 2012 === No News... === By 2013 === Alibi HD to launch on Virgin Media. === By 2015 === RTE Radio and WRN Radio will be axe in old Telewest areas or added to all areas of Virgin Media. === Unknown dates === -Discovery to replace Travel and Living with TLC on Virgin Channel 275. -UKTV on Demand may also launch on Virgin on Demand. -MTVN HD will be rebranded as MTV Live HD on Virgin Channel 310. -TCM to be rebranded on Virgin Channel 415. -The BBC may axe BBC Three or BBC Four from Virgin Channels 106 or 107 (And other networks) has part of BBC Cuts. -Channel 4's ''4oD'' will offer HD content. -Diva TV will be rebranded as Diva Universal on Virgin Channel 164. -Ginx TV may launch on Virgin Media. -Virgin Media will launch the Sky Sports red button on TiVo. -Virgin Media will cease all analogue television transmissions. -Zing may relaunch on Virgin Media. === The following channels are rumoured to be launching or in talks with Virgin Media === List last updated on August 21st 2011. -PBS UK (Are said to be in talks with Virgin.) -ITV2 HD (Are said to be in talks with Virgin.) -ITV3 HD (Are said to be in talks with Virgin.) -ITV4 HD (Are said to be in talks with Virgin.) -Al Jazeera -Premier Sports -Quest +1 -Russia Today -NDTV -Pick TV +1 -CBS Action -CBS Drama -CBS Reality +1 -Horror Channel +1 === Channels THAT still to appear in all areas === List was last updated on December 1st 2010. NO. Channel Name 917. Radio: RTE Radio 920. Radio: WRN Europe NOTE: Channels are only broadcasting in Ex-Telewest areas right now. ====== Media Boy Information ===== Media Boy - Keep it real and FREE on Cable Forum. === Media Boy Extra info: === Latest news on Local TV - http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/local-tv More Latest news on Local TV - http://www.culture.gov.uk/what_we_do...ting/7235.aspx === Ask Media Boy === Last updated August 21st 2011. Q: WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION ABOUT VIRGIN MEDIA FROM? A: I get all my info from Virgin Media viewers and Web Sites (NOTE: When I used web sites I will post an link to that web site). Q: WHY AM I NOT GETTING ''RTE RADIO'' OR ''WRN RADIO'' FOR? A: RTE Radio and WRN Radio do not broadcast in Ex-ntl and Ex-Cable & Wireless areas - yet. Q: NOW THAT BSKYB HAS TOOK OVER VIRGIN MEDIA TELEVISION WILL ANY CHANNELS CLOSE ON VIRGIN TV? A: Yes Sky has closed Bravo, Channel One and Challenge Jackpot down. But us Virgin Media viewers will see some channels moving about as we have now got Sky1 HD, Sky Arts 1 HD and Sky Arts 2 HD on our network. Q: WHY DO YOU THINK DISCOVERY WILL AXE TRAVEL & LIVING FOR TLC TO LAUNCH IN THE UK AND IRELAND? A: Since March 2010 Discovery has replace all the following versions of Discovery Travel & Living with TLC. In Europe: -Norway -Poland -Balkans (Slovenia, Serbia and Bulgaria.) -Hungary (From September 2011) -The Czech Republic (From September 2011) -Slovakia (From September 2011) ==== Deals with broadcasters === List last updated on August 1st 2011. When deals with broadcasters run out Virgin Media need to sign new one to keep that Channel on Virgin TV. Here is an list of channel that Virgin may get when they old deal runs out with that broadcaster: NOTE: Only Broadcasts who has got some Channels broadcasting on Virgin Media right appeared on this list. To start broadcasting soon = That channel has still to start broadcasting on Sky, Freesat or Freeview. === TV and Radio Channels: === === Own by AETN UK === Bio HD Crime & Investigation Network HD Crime & Investigation Network +1 HISTORY HD HISTORY +1 === Own by ABC Television Group === Disney Cinemagic HD Disney Cinemagic +1 Disney Junior + Disney XD HD === Own by ARY Group === ARY News QTV ARY === Own by BSkyB === Pick TV +1 Sky 3D Sky Atlantic Sky Atlantic HD Sky Movies Classic HD Sky News HD Sky Sports HD3 Sky Sports HD4 Sky Sports News HD === Own by CBS International and Chello Zone === CBS Action CBS Drama CBS Reality +1 Horror Channel +1 === Own by Channel 4 Television Corporation === More 4 +1 === Own by CSC Media Group === Bliss Chart Show TV Dance Nation TV Flava Kix! NME TV POP Pop Girl Pop Girl +1 Scuzz The Vault Tiny Pop +1 True Movies 2 === Own by Discovery Networks Europe === Animal Planet +1 Discovery Home & Health +1 Discovery Knowledge +1 Discovery Science +1 DMAX +1 DMAX +2 Investigation Discovery TLC (May replace Discovery Travel and Living.) Quest +1 === Own by ESPN Inc. (The Walt Disney Company/Hearst Corporation) === ESPN America HD === Own by GMG Radio === Real Radio Real Radio XS (Soon to start broadcasting). Rock Radio (Soon to be rebranded as Real Radio XS.) === Own by ITV Digital Channels Ltd === ITV2 HD ITV3 HD ITV4 HD === Own by NBC Universal Global Networks === Diva TV +1 Universal Channel HD === Own by NGC Europe Limited === FX +1 Nat Wild HD === Own by Sony === NOTE: The following channels will become part of the ''ViewAsia'' package if Sony can sign an new deal Virgin Media: ARY Digital^ B4U Movies^ Colors^ MAX^ SAB Sahara One SET Asia^ ^ = On Virgin Media right now. === Own by Sony Pictures Television === Sony Entertainment Television Sony Entertainment Television +1 === Own by STAR TV === STAR Gold STAR One === Own by TIML Radio Limited === Absolute 90s === Own by Turner Broadcasting System Europe === Cartoon Network HD (Soon to Start Broadcasting). TCM 2 === Own by UKTV === Eden +1 YeSTERDAY +1 === Own by Viacom === BET BET +1 Comedy Central Extra +1 MTV CLASSIC MTV MUSIC MTV +1 Nickelodeon HD NickToons Replay === Own by Zee Entertainment Enterprises === ZEE Cafe Zing Next update: Mid September - unless: A) If Virgin are set to launch more than THREE channels (TV or Radio) on Virgin TV. B) If Virgin are set to move more than THREE channels (TV or Radio) about on Virgin TV. C) If Virgin are set to close or repackage more then THREE channels (TV or Radio ) on Virgin TV. ©copyright 2011 Media Boy 2006 - 2011. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production. |
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
Discovery may launch full 3D Channel in UK and Ireland.
This came after Discovery licensed its 3D VoD content - some from 3Net - to the UK's BSkyB and Virgin Media despite having gained a license to broadcast a 3D channel in the territory. Discovery plans to see how the shows work before deciding whether to launch a channel, Hollinger added. http://www.c21media.net/resources/de...&article=62350 |
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
i would be really annoyed if they cancelled the bbc red button, i use that for wimbledon matches.
Why would they need to get rid of them for bandwidth anyway, sky has loads of bandwidth, so does virgin and any new channels on freeview hd would need a new mux unless they are planning to make the video quality even worse for freeview hd and have 5 channels on 1 mux instead of 4. analog will be switched off in around 12 months anyway, so i don't see why the red button needs to go other than cutting costs. |
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