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Damien 19-09-2011 08:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35301835)
Well it seems Public figures want it both ways , It is grossly hypocritical of Hugh Grant– or anyone else in the public eye – to complain about the media invading privacy.
I’m sick of politicians and performers, who trade their profiles for money, biting the hand that feeds them and then complaining.
But that doesn't make any sense. Are you saying that if your job involves any media work you no longer have a right to a private life? Hugh Grant is any actor, he plays characters, a musician makes music while a politician represents their electorate.

Why do these jobs mean forfeiting the right to a private life? If he had used the press to publish private photos of him in order to raise his profile, i.e in the way some talentless z-list celebrities do, then I might see your point but that isn't he case with Hugh Grant.

So where is the hypocrisy?

Maggy 19-09-2011 09:24
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Anyway this is the very reason the NOTW and the media in general have used as a justification to illegally hack mobile phones of celebrities and it was only a short step to anyone being a target.

Let's try to stay with that topic shall we instead of arguing News International's excuses for them.

Stuart 19-09-2011 13:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35301830)
l know two wrongs do not make a right but it seems some celebrity's want it both ways when it is convenient to them.

Why? Because we pay their salaries? I spend rather a lot of money in HMV. Does that mean I get the automatic right to know what their staff are doing in their personal lives? Of course not. In a similar vein, we don't get the automatic right to know what any celeb does in their private life.

Regardless of whether a celebrity keeps their private life to themselves or they are releasing new TV series/columns/autobiographies with each intimate detail of their lives, we do not have an automatic right to know everything. Nor do the newspapers have an automatic right to listen to their messages.

denphone 19-09-2011 13:29
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Lets get it clear that hacking in my mind is unacceptable and there are no excuses for listening to peoples messages.

Damien 19-09-2011 15:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35301064)
There will be supreme irony if there are any prosecutions against The Guardian but none against the NOW..
Might not be too far off the truth:

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16072953

Quote:
The family of murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler is finalising details of a substantial settlement with the News Of The World for hacking her phone, Sky sources say.
and:

https://twitter.com/#!/arusbridger

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian Editor
Police approached CPS within last hour to seek advice on using official secrets act against guardian - legal source

Maggy 19-09-2011 19:06
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Personally after some of the information that has been revealed about the Dowlers in court I'd be inclined to settle if I were in their shoes..And then buy an uninhabited island with the money so as to get right away from the media.However I'd go for at least 5.million.

Damien 19-09-2011 19:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35302088)
Personally after some of the information that has been revealed about the Dowlers in court I'd be inclined to settle if I were in their shoes..And then buy an uninhabited island with the money so as to get right away from the media.However I'd go for at least 5.million.
Yeah fair enough. They were the victims so it's not for me to judge how they wish to handle it.

denphone 20-09-2011 17:00
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Phone hacking: sacked Sun journalist will not face police questioning

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...sun-journalist



Max Mosley takes on News of the World publisher in French court

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ley-news-world




Nick Clegg: NI will not be absolved over Milly Dowler phone hacking

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...l-milly-dowler




Phone hacking: Ted Turner says Rupert Murdoch will have to step down

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...rupert-murdoch

Damien 20-09-2011 17:16
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The Times, The Telegraph, The Independent and The Daily Mail have all had editorials condemning the police trying to get the sources for phone hacking. Even Richard Littlejohn wrote such an article (does make me stop and consider if I have the correct viewpoint :D).

Maggy 20-09-2011 19:07
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...police-consult

Quote:
Scotland Yard only approached the DPP for advice after trying to force the Guardian to reveal sources using the Official Secrets ActScotland Yard officers failed to consult either the director of public prosecutions or the attorney general before invoking the Official Secrets Act to try to force the Guardian to reveal journalistic sources, it has been revealed.
Quote:
Although police are not technically required to get the DPP's permission at an early stage of inquiries, Starmer told a media law conference he encouraged sensitive police investigations to be carried out from an early stage in close consultation with the DPP's lawyers from the Crown Prosecution Service.
Of course the Guardian is bound to be partisan..

denphone 20-09-2011 20:12
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Scotland Yard drops hacking-sources bid

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakin...id-521308.html


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14991304

Maggy 20-09-2011 20:30
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14846456


Phone-hacking scandal: Who's linked to who?

devilincarnate 20-09-2011 20:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35302583)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14846456


Phone-hacking scandal: Who's linked to who?
Is it a game of six degrees of seperation:erm:

Tezcatlipoca 20-09-2011 20:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35302568)

Good!


Quite how anyone at the Met thought that the leak which lead to the Milly Dowler story (the story which kicked off this whole thing!) could have been "not in the public interest" amazes me.

Also ridiculous that the decision to try and use the Official Secrets Act in this way was made without consultation with more senior officers, and was made without initial advice from the DPP.

Maggy 20-09-2011 21:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35302586)
Is it a game of six degrees of seperation:erm:
Interesting whom was in contact with whom..

devilincarnate 20-09-2011 21:03
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35302605)
Interesting whom was in contact with whom..
I thought that I may get done for the original comment? But hey ho.
But as you say it is.

denphone 21-09-2011 14:36
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MPs summon Met police to explain Guardian action


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/se...ardian-sources

denphone 22-09-2011 06:00
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Murdoch execs told of hacking evidence in 2006


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...6-2358777.html

Maggy 22-09-2011 09:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35303231)
Murdoch execs told of hacking evidence in 2006


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...6-2358777.html
Lies are like pigeons, eventually they come home to roost.

denphone 23-09-2011 14:03
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Phone hacking: Dowler lawyer pursues US legal action against News Corp


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...orp?CMP=twt_gu

BenMcr 23-09-2011 14:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35303848)
Phone hacking: Dowler lawyer pursues US legal action against News Corp


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...orp?CMP=twt_gu
Bet they were hoping the £3m would stop that happening lol

Maggy 23-09-2011 19:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35303848)
Phone hacking: Dowler lawyer pursues US legal action against News Corp


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...orp?CMP=twt_gu
Quote:
Separately, it emerged that this week US prosecutors at the Department of Justice have written to Murdoch's News Corporation requesting information on alleged payments made to the British police by the News of the World. The DoJ is looking into whether the company may have violated the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA).
Under FCPA laws, American companies are banned from paying representatives of a foreign government to gain a commercial advantage.
So even if the Dowlers don't prosecute in the US there are those who may well pursue the Murdochs through the courts anyway.

Hugh 23-09-2011 19:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35303852)
Bet they were hoping the £3m would stop that happening lol
It's not the Dowlers, it's the lawyer the Dowlers used - he is now trying to gather clients in the US.

denphone 23-09-2011 20:08
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News Corp. Unit Sued in London by ‘A. Coulson’

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...-coulson-.html

---------- Post added at 20:08 ---------- Previous post was at 19:35 ----------

Phone hacking: News International paid Neil Wallis while he was at Scotland Yard


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...land-Yard.html

denphone 27-09-2011 19:28
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Sun has questions to answer on phone hacking, claims Labour's Tom Watson

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ing-tom-watson

Damien 27-09-2011 19:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35306039)
Sun has questions to answer on phone hacking, claims Labour's Tom Watson

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ing-tom-watson
He has to be careful. Unless he had hard evidence he can't throw this accusations around. News Corp won't be on the defence forever and when this is all over The Sun will be set on the people that caused them trouble :erm:

RizzyKing 27-09-2011 19:57
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I have never believed for one second that the NOTW was the only paper doing this or that NI was the only media group involved either but while the heat is on lets get it all out as much to clear those who didn't as much as to punish those who did. We cannot have a media where there is doubt and suspicion hanging over it so it really is in the best interests of the whole industry to come clean now rather then get caught out later.

Maggy 27-09-2011 20:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35306057)
He has to be careful. Unless he had hard evidence he can't throw this accusations around. News Corp won't be on the defence forever and when this is all over The Sun will be set on the people that caused them trouble :erm:
Perhaps he does but wants to protect his sources for the time being.:)

denphone 28-09-2011 09:18
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Phone-hacking: NoW reporter Neville Thurlbeck takes publisher to tribunal

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...lbeck-tribunal

Maggy 28-09-2011 10:22
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Talk about trying it on.

Quote:
Ruth Neil, of employment law firm Stone Joseph, said that there are "very specific rules" in terms of what an individual whistleblower can claim under the act. She said to use it as a defence it was necessary to have reported any alleged wrongdoing to another person in authority, such as a police officer or other public servant.
A source familiar with the matter said Thurlbeck's use of the whistleblower's defence was "an extraordinary tactic to deploy".

denphone 28-09-2011 20:11
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Phone hacking: second NoW journalist takes News International to tribunal

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ndson-tribunal

denphone 30-09-2011 11:04
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Phone hacking: Watergate reporter 'struck by parallels' with Nixon scandal

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...rter-parallels

denphone 30-09-2011 21:21
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Phone hacking: Neville Thurlbeck says 'truth will out'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ille-thurlbeck

Maggy 01-10-2011 10:33
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Another link on that story.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/01/wo...nt&tntemail1=y

Quote:
A reporter who is among the 16 people arrested and then freed on bail in the phone hacking case that has shaken Rupert Murdoch’s media empire in Britain warned his former bosses on Friday that he planned to break his silence on the scandal in a civil court case. He said that he would reveal those who were responsible for the phone hacking.
Mind the way I read this is 'Pay up or I spill the beans' rather than any desire to incriminate himself or anyone else.;)

denphone 01-10-2011 10:42
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Yes we shall see if he spills the beans as its alright threatening it but doing it is another matter.

denphone 03-10-2011 09:50
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Phone hacking: Lord Prescott legal action funded by Max Mosley

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...-funded-mosley

Maggy 03-10-2011 11:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35309120)
Phone hacking: Lord Prescott legal action funded by Max Mosley

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...-funded-mosley
Quote:
Lord Prescott's phone action legal action against the News of the World publishers, News International, is being funded by the former Formula One boss Max Mosley, it emerged today.
The former deputy prime minister said he would not be able to bring the action for alleged phone hacking were it not for Mosley's financial offer.
So anyone without the finances and no access to a rich financier like Mosley is rather stuffed unless they can get public sympathy on their side such as the Dowlers.

denphone 03-10-2011 11:32
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And that means many people will miss out and thats a shame.

Maggy 03-10-2011 11:32
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Just reading the latest Private Eye.

In their Number Crunching section.

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£2 million Compensation to be paid by News International to the parents of murder victim Millie Dowler.
£4 million Compensation to be paid by News International to former chief executive Rebekah Brooks for having to resign over the hacking and deleting

Chris 03-10-2011 11:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35309183)
So anyone without the finances and no access to a rich financier like Mosley is rather stuffed unless they can get public sympathy on their side such as the Dowlers.
You don't get legal aid for civil proceedings and on balance that's a good thing. The nearest we currently have to civil proceedings without the cost is no-win-no-fee arrangements for personal injury and the like - and that system is royally screwing everything up for the majority of us via massive increases in insurance premiums.

Maggy 03-10-2011 13:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35309187)
You don't get legal aid for civil proceedings and on balance that's a good thing. The nearest we currently have to civil proceedings without the cost is no-win-no-fee arrangements for personal injury and the like - and that system is royally screwing everything up for the majority of us via massive increases in insurance premiums.
I agree but it rather puts the balance in favour of the rich media barons rather than the impoverished or merely strapped for finances Jo Bloggs..Now if the PCC had any clout it wouldn't be necessary for anyone to have to seek litigation to get any kind of apology with or without a bri err cash remuneration.Frankly just seeing a public apology across a newspaper's front page would be all I'd have gone for if I were in the Dowler's place.
Not that I blame them for taking the money.

Chris 03-10-2011 16:27
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In which case the regulation of media complaints needs to have an appropriate legal footing, which would enable assistance with costs to be handled effectively.

Maggy 03-10-2011 16:36
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35309323)
In which case the regulation of media complaints needs to have an appropriate legal footing, which would enable assistance with costs to be handled effectively.
Oh I agree on that.Let us hope that something along those lines is what we get at some future date.

denphone 04-10-2011 11:09
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'Sun on Sunday' edges step closer with hiring spree


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/me...e-2365157.html

denphone 05-10-2011 10:13
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Hugh Grant: 'I warned government over Andy Coulson'

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...y-coulson.html

Stuart 05-10-2011 11:25
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The real downside to all of this is it seems more likely that the Press will be more heavily regulated. I say this is a downside because inevitably, someone somewhere will find a way to use that regulation to their advantage, and use it to stop the press from reporting on something we need to know.

I'm thinking along the lines of what happened with the Super Injunctions. I read in Private Eye that while the press were going on about various celebrities doing things they shouldn't, then getting super injunctions to stop the press talking about it, a few groups of people were doing something rather more serious, using Super Injunctions to cover what they were doing, and going largely unreported.

So, while I don't normally agree with Conspiracy Theorists, we could end up in a situation where a group of people does something highly illegal, serious and possibly dangerous, yet we don't know about it because the News of the World thought that as part of their obsession with Milly Dowler, that they needed to know everything people were saying to her family.

Maggy 05-10-2011 12:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35310429)
The real downside to all of this is it seems more likely that the Press will be more heavily regulated. I say this is a downside because inevitably, someone somewhere will find a way to use that regulation to their advantage, and use it to stop the press from reporting on something we need to know.

I'm thinking along the lines of what happened with the Super Injunctions. I read in Private Eye that while the press were going on about various celebrities doing things they shouldn't, then getting super injunctions to stop the press talking about it, a few groups of people were doing something rather more serious, using Super Injunctions to cover what they were doing, and going largely unreported.

So, while I don't normally agree with Conspiracy Theorists, we could end up in a situation where a group of people does something highly illegal, serious and possibly dangerous, yet we don't know about it because the News of the World thought that as part of their obsession with Milly Dowler, that they needed to know everything people were saying to her family.
I too am concerned about a chance of a situation similar to the super injunction fiasco(and thanks to Parliamentary Privilege that it was revealed) if we get a new press regulatory body.That of course can be negated IF it's neutrality is guaranteed by making sure members have no direct or indirect connection with any of the media organisations.

Hugh 05-10-2011 13:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35310390)
Hugh Grant: 'I warned government over Andy Coulson'

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...y-coulson.html
So he warned them three years after they hired Andy Coulson....:D

denphone 05-10-2011 13:48
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Yes three years is a long time.;)

muppetman11 05-10-2011 17:33
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News International facing more than 60 phone hacking lawsuits

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...-lawsuits.html

Maggy 05-10-2011 17:59
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Ouch! That's going to hurt..:)

devilincarnate 05-10-2011 18:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35310673)
Ouch! That's going to hurt..:)
It is when you read this part of the link?

Quote:
Mark Lewis, one of the lawyers acting on behalf of the phone hacking victims, said that just 5% of Mulcaire's victims have so far been notified, and the scandal could go much further into the newspaper industry.

"He was just one agent used by one paper," he told Bloomberg News. "When the final tally takes place, we will see thousands of claims and more than one paper."

Lewis also said that Rupert Murdoch's £20 million contingency fund to deal with the hacking claims was not looking sufficient enough, and even added that claims it will take £100m to clear the cases seem "a serious underestimate".

Sirius 05-10-2011 18:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35309820)
'Sun on Sunday' edges step closer with hiring spree


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/me...e-2365157.html
As if there are not enough comics already

Maggy 05-10-2011 18:59
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35310701)
As if there are not enough comics already
Well they are going to have to find the cash for those 60+ lawsuits.

denphone 05-10-2011 20:45
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35310701)
As if there are not enough comics already
l can assure you they could give it away free to me and l would quickly rip it up.

denphone 06-10-2011 11:49
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Downing Street 'did not record who knew' about Andy Coulson vetting

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...downing-street




Former journalist says colleagues at Mirror Group newspaper hacked phones

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ed-phones.html

Chris 06-10-2011 12:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35311106)
Downing Street 'did not record who knew' about Andy Coulson vetting

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...downing-street
I bet they didn't. I've worked with a few civil servants in my time, reasonably senior ones too. They are extremely good at spotting what not to write down and which conversations are best held in the stairwell rather than via email or telephone.

denphone 06-10-2011 13:14
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Hacking 'not result of pressure', says former News of the World editor Phil Hall


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...l-2366373.html

Maggy 06-10-2011 20:09
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Phil Hall, who edited the now-defunct paper from 1995 to 2000, told a seminar for the Leveson Inquiry that competitive pressures on newspapers had not led to a drop in standards.
Pfttt!!!

denphone 06-10-2011 21:13
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Vote Murdochs out, council pensions group tells News Corporation investors

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ion-fund-group



Leveson inquiry could become tabloid witch-hunt, warns Sun veteran

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...oid-witch-hunt



Sun editor: celebrity reporters operate just like political hacks

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...rity-reporters

denphone 07-10-2011 13:26
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Phone hacking: Kelly Hoppen settles with News of the World publisher


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...pen?CMP=twt_fd

denphone 11-10-2011 22:01
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Phone hacking: Glenn Mulcaire wants 'persecution' by victims to stop


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...re-persecution



Phone hacking: Les Hinton to give evidence to MPs for third time


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...inton-evidence



Private Eye editor defends use of subterfuge in investigative reporting


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ive-journalism

Maggy 12-10-2011 09:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35313994)
Private Eye editor defends use of subterfuge in investigative reporting


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ive-journalism
Ian Hislop made a very good point about the difficulties of providing good investigative journalism and that the methods used maybe considered indefensible by some but when the resulting article reveals murky doings such as corruption then we tend to applaud as a society.

Quote:
The magazine editor also defended the use of subterfuge by media organisations. He argued that while many industry observers were quick to condemn the methods employed by Mazher Mahmood – the "fake sheikh" at the now-defunct News of the World – they applauded the actions of a reporter at Channel 4's Dispatches, who posed as a lobbyist to expose MPs who agreed to be paid for working for a fictional firm. "It's not always the case that form of journalistic grubbiness is inexcusable," Hislop said.
Personally I've heard more about corruption in local government in Private Eye than I have seen or heard in the more well known news outlets.

denphone 12-10-2011 10:17
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Phone hacking: News Corp says focus on scandal is 'disproportionate' and it would say that.



http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/gree...ing?CMP=twt_fd

Chris 12-10-2011 10:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35314159)
Phone hacking: News Corp says focus on scandal is 'disproportionate' and it would say that.



http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/gree...ing?CMP=twt_fd
It would say that if anyone from News Corp has been reading this thread. You're single-handedly sending its post count into the stratosphere. ;)

Maggy 12-10-2011 11:47
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Disproportionate?Hell they say so..Possibly a term that many might apply to the illegal phone hacking of Millie Dowler's voice mails and the deletions of said voice mails.

They are trying to defend the indefensible by making out they are the victims now.:rolleyes:

denphone 13-10-2011 05:24
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'Fake sheikh' Mazher Mahmood denies all knowledge of phone hacking



http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...owledge-denied

---------- Post added at 05:24 ---------- Previous post was at 05:22 ----------

Leveson inquiry: David Cameron in firing line as Kelvin MacKenzie hits out Prime minister using Leveson inquiry to escape his own 'lack of judgment' over hiring Andy Coulson, says former Sun editor.




http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...lvin-mackenzie

devilincarnate 19-10-2011 19:29
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Quote:
A lawyer who advised News International has said that the newspaper publisher was told in 2008 that there were three journalists other than Clive Goodman involved in phone hacking.

Speaking today to the Commons culture, media and sport select committee, Farrer and Co solicitor Julian Pike admitted that he had "not done very much" to debunk the company's claim that hacking was down to just one "rogue reporter". However, he denied being "party to any cover-up".
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...ys-lawyer.html

Maggy 21-10-2011 08:44
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15399055

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News Corporation holds its annual meeting later - its first since the phone-hacking scandal broke in the UK.
Some investors are calling for several directors - including Rupert Murdoch and his two sons - to step aside.
Labour MP Tom Watson, who played a prominent role in exposing the scale of phone hacking, has been given a seat at the meeting by shareholders.
He says he plans to make fresh allegations about malpractice by News Corp journalists.
I hope someone smuggles a camera in.

Maggy 22-10-2011 11:34
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/22/wo...nt&tntemail1=y

Interesting if true.

denphone 25-10-2011 07:15
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...reholders-vote


Quote:
James Murdoch's future at News Corporation looks increasingly precarious as shareholders delivered a damning verdict on his tenure amid widespread criticism of his handling of the hacking scandal.

Quote:
A majority of independent shareholders voted against the re-election of chairman Rupert Murdoch's sons James and Lachlan Murdoch. James Murdoch received the largest vote against his re-election at 35%.

Lets hope this is the end of this nefarious character.

Maggy 25-10-2011 09:29
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The BBC take on the same story

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15440825

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A third of News Corporation investors voted against James and Lachlan Murdoch being re-elected to the board on Friday, newly released figures show.
Almost 35% voted against James Murdoch, who is the company's deputy chief operating officer, while 34% voted against his brother.
The vote is seen as a rebuke over News Corp's handling of the phone hacking scandal at the News of the World.
News Corp chairman Rupert Murdoch received 14% of "no" votes.
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However, despite the level of shareholder dissatisfaction, all 15 nominees to the board were re-elected.

BenMcr 25-10-2011 10:10
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Considering the Murdochs hold 40% of the voting stock (I think), I think it's going to take a lot more than that to change anything

Chris 25-10-2011 11:13
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The shareholdings of news corp are designed to make it very hard for the Murdochs to lose control of the company. The shareholders may not like this, or the Murdochs, but the company's voting rules are no secret. They knew the way it works when they bought in.

Welshchris 28-10-2011 05:54
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I Dont know if this has been posted about Police finding a mobile on the desk of the now defunct NOTW that was used to hack phones between 2004-2006.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10...g_phone_found/

Maggy 28-10-2011 08:50
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Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 35322095)
I Dont know if this has been posted about Police finding a mobile on the desk of the now defunct NOTW that was used to hack phones between 2004-2006.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10...g_phone_found/
I've not seen anything about this anywhere before.Another example of the stellar policing by the Met.

devilincarnate 01-11-2011 18:44
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Looks like it is getting deeper and deeper?

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Phone hacking by News of the World and Sun journalists was known about by senior executives even as it was being denied, new evidence suggests.

News International documents released by a Commons committee say some journalists carried out illegal practices between 2001 and 2003.

But in 2008 the parent company was denying the practice went beyond one "rogue reporter".

One document suggested the position was "fatal to our case".

The evidence from the Commons committee investigating the scandal shows how the News of the World tried to keep the phone hacking case involving Gordon Taylor - the chief executive of the Professional Footballers' Association - under wraps.
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'Illegal inquiries'
The newly released documents also show a leading barrister warned the News of the World on 3 June 2008 that there was a "powerful case that there is (or was) a culture of illegal information access" at the News of the World.

Michael Silverleaf QC said that the allegations would be "extremely damaging to NGN's (News Group Newspapers) public reputation".

He wrote that there was "overwhelming evidence of the involvement of a number of senior NGN journalists" in "illegal enquiries" into an individual whose name is blanked out.

"In addition there is substantial surrounding material about the extent of NGN journalists' attempts to obtain access to information illegally in relation to other individuals," he said.

"In the light of these facts there is a powerful case that there is (or was) a culture of illegal information access used at NGN in order to produce stories for publication."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15544034

denphone 03-11-2011 21:16
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It seems there are far more victims of phone hacking than previously acknowledged.

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The number of possible victims of phone hacking by the News of the World private investigator Glenn Mulcaire is now close to 5,800, the Metropolitan police have confirmed.

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A spokesman for Scotland Yard said: "It is not possible to give a precise figure about the number of people whose phones have actually been hacked but we can confirm that as of today's date, 3 November 2011, the current number of potentially identifiable persons who appear in the material, and who may therefore be victims, where names are noted, is 5,795. This figure is very likely to be revised in the future as a result of further analysis."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...victims-police

denphone 04-11-2011 12:16
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...nd-yard-arrest

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A 48-year-old man has been arrested as part of Scotland Yard's investigation into alleged payments to police officers by newspapers
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Scotland Yard said in a statement: "He was arrested at an outside London on suspicion of corruption allegations in contravention of section 1 of the Prevention of Corruption Act 1906, and is being brought to a south-west London police station."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ch-jeremy-hunt

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The culture secretary declined an opportunity to throw his support behind James Murdoch's continuing chairmanship of BSkyB, with the minister saying he could not give a settled view until police and public inquiries had concluded

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Bryant asked: "Does the secretary of state really believe, with the AGM of BSkyB coming up on 29 November, that James Murdoch is therefore a fit and proper person to be chairing that company any longer?"

Hugh 04-11-2011 12:31
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Much as it pains me to defend the Murdochs, what happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

Chris 04-11-2011 13:10
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Those who live by the sword, die by the sword, apparently.

denphone 07-11-2011 16:40
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...ng-target.html

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Former Creation Records boss Alan McGee has revealed that the Metropolitan Police have contacted him to say that his phone was targeted by the defunct News of the World.

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Writing in a blog for the Huffington Post, McGee confirmed that he plans to sue the News International newspaper over the alleged hacking


---------- Post added at 16:40 ---------- Previous post was at 16:36 ----------

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...or-spy-lawyers

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The News of the World hired a specialist private investigator to run covert surveillance on two of the lawyers representing phone-hacking victims as part of an operation to put pressure on them to stop their work.
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The investigator secretly videoed Mark Lewis and Charlotte Harris as well as family members and associates. Evidence suggests this was part of an attempt to gather evidence for false smears about their private lives.

Maggy 07-11-2011 17:03
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The surveillance of Lewis and Harris occurred during the past 18 months, when Rupert Murdoch's son James was executive chairman of the paper's parent company, News International.
Now I wonder if he was aware of this..

denphone 07-11-2011 17:09
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l have no doubt he was.

devilincarnate 07-11-2011 17:23
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Murdoch gave loyal lieutenant Rebekah Brooks £1.7m pay-off, car and office.

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Rebekah Brooks, the former News of the World editor who resigned as chief executive of News International at the height of the phone-hacking scandal, received £1.7m in cash, the use of a London office and a chauffeur-driven limousine as part of her severance package from the newspaper group.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...rebekah-brooks

Then it should be interesting this Thursday?

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This round-up of Monday's main media stories reports on the return of James Murdoch to face MPs later this week.

James Murdoch, chairman of News International, returns to Westminster on Thursday to answer questions from the Commons culture, media and sport select committee about his knowledge of illegal activities by his employees. The Guardian says he will concede that more should have been done to investigate, but plans to sidestep any questions about the size of the severance payment made to former News International chief executive Rebekah Brooks. The Observer reported at the weekend that she received £1.7m, and the use of an office and a chauffeur-driven car.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15620160

Oh dear?

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The News of the World (NoW) hired an ex-police officer early last year to carry out surveillance on two prominent lawyers representing victims of phone hacking, BBC Newsnight has learned.

Derek Webb, who ran a private investigations firm called Silent Shadow, covertly followed lawyers Mark Lewis and Charlotte Harris.

Mr Webb also filmed members of Mr Lewis's family on a shopping trip.

News International, owners of the NoW, said it was "deeply inappropriate".

The surveillance of the lawyers, who have been involved in cases against NoW owner News International, took place during the past 18 months when James Murdoch was executive chairman.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15627609

devilincarnate 08-11-2011 18:10
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As the rabbit hole goes deeper and deeper?

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Dossier shows NoW surveillance on massive scale


BBC Newsnight has obtained a dossier of evidence from an ex-policeman hired by the News of The World (NoW) which shows the newspaper was engaged in covert surveillance on an industrial scale.

Over eight years Derek Webb was paid to follow more than 90 targets selected by staff at the newspaper.

His targets included Prince William, former attorney general Lord Goldsmith and football pundit Gary Lineker.

Relatives, such as the parents of actor Daniel Radcliffe, were also targeted.
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Speaking exclusively to Newsnight's Richard Watson, Mr Webb said that shortly after setting up his own private detective agency in 2003 he was contacted by the NoW and offered work.

He continued to work for the newspaper until it was shut down in July after a string of allegations emerged about the hacking of phones, including that of murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler.

"I was working for them extensively on many jobs throughout that time. I never knew when I was going to be required. They phoned me up by the day or by the night... It could be anywhere in the country."

Mr Webb is a former police officer who worked for many years in covert surveillance and received additional training from MI5.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/15644038

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Watch Richard Watson's full report in which the names of more News of the World surveillance targets will be revealed on Newsnight at 2230GMT on Tuesday 8 November 2011, then afterwards on the BBC iPlayer and Newsnight website.

Damien 08-11-2011 18:58
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Short of murder I am not sure anything would surprise me at this point..

denphone 09-11-2011 08:56
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...the-world.html

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A private detective has claimed that he was commissioned by the News of the World to conduct surveillance on famous figures including Prince William and Gary Lineker
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Derek Webb told the BBC's Newsnight that he was paid for of eight years to follow more than 100 people from across entertainment, politics, sport and the royal family.

Maggy 09-11-2011 09:40
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15652738

Interesting to listen to and watch.

Hom3r 09-11-2011 10:09
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People high up in News Corp need to got to prison, its there company and the buck stops with them.

denphone 09-11-2011 21:16
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...-phone-hacking

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The News of the World's former chief reporter, Neville Thurlbeck, has rejected a request by Metropolitan police officers to help in their phone-hacking investigation.
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The dossier is also said to contain a tape-recorded phone call made by Thurlbeck to Ross Hindley, the junior reporter who transcribed the "For Neville" email that has been the focus of the hacking investigation. Thurlbeck had tracked Hindley down to Peru. During the call, which he taped, he is believed to have made allegations against the same executive. The police now have a transcript of that call.

denphone 10-11-2011 09:36
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...unday-ni-plans

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A small team of designers and editors is understood to have produced a fresh dummy of the Sun on Sunday, with more editorial and sales staff working on the project as News International gets closer to committing to a launch next year.
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"It is considered to be an inevitability as far as looking at it commercially; the cost of investment in print plants means they need to have another paper on a Sunday," said a second source.

And l for one will boycott this new paper.

Alan Fry 10-11-2011 10:05
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the rate this is going, the sun will shut down and sky and fox will lose their broadcasting lisences

will this be the end of news corp, or at least then of of the murdoch control of news corp

will news corp be sold to one of its rivals (time warner maybe?)

denphone 10-11-2011 10:11
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35328148)
the rate this is going, the sun will shut down and sky and fox will lose their broadcasting lisences

will this be the end of news corp, or at least then of of the murdoch control of news corp

will news corp be sold to one of its rivals (time warner maybe?)
l somehow doubt whether any of the above mentioned will happen.

Alan Fry 10-11-2011 10:32
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35328154)
l somehow doubt whether any of the above mentioned will happen.
damm it!

Chris 10-11-2011 11:30
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35328154)
l somehow doubt whether any of the above mentioned will happen.
I don't think any of the aforementioned outlets will shut, but there is at least an outside chance that Ofcom will declare News Corp unfit to hold a broadcast licence, which would force them to sell their interest in Sky.

denphone 10-11-2011 11:34
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35328194)
I don't think any of the aforementioned outlets will shut, but there is at least an outside chance that Ofcom will declare News Corp unfit to hold a broadcast licence, which would force them to sell their interest in Sky.
Yes that would be nice if that happened but as you have pointed out in that that is highly unlikely to happen but if it did l don't think any of us would shed any tears over that.

Chris 10-11-2011 12:00
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Tom Watson has called James Murdoch a 'Mafia Boss'. :rofl:

denphone 10-11-2011 12:06
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog...s-murdoch-live


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• James Murdoch says wider evidence of phone hacking at News of the World was not given to him by Colin Myler and Tom Crone in May 2008
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Michael Silverleaf QC's damning legal opinion detailing culture of wider-spread hacking was not shown to Murdoch until recently
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News International moved to 'aggressive defence' of phone hacking, Murdoch admits

Media Boy UK 10-11-2011 12:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35328223)
Tom Watson has called James Murdoch a 'Mafia Boss'. :rofl:
Well.... Someone I know think his Dad is.


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