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telfordcable 02-02-2011 12:36

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35164121)
IF YOU ARE ALREADY ON 20Mb AND ALREADY HAVE A SUPERHUB THEN WAIT FOR A FEW WEEKS AND YOU WILL BE UPLIFTED AT NO COST AUTOMATICALLY, BUT IF YOU CALL IN TO GET THE UPGRADE THEY WILL ATTEMPT TO CHARGE YOU.

That's might take a long time for uplifted, might not work.

Peter_ 02-02-2011 12:39

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35164587)
That's might take a long time for uplifted, might not work.

It will work why do you think I posted it, you can pay if you want to but the is no need as above.:rolleyes:;)

Chrysalis 02-02-2011 12:41

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35164561)
Given the comical deal I was offered to not cancel an installation I wouldn't hold your breath on any kind of standardisation happening. VM are utterly terrified by churn.

Leaflet through the door today (in my area that has no room for new customers).

£10 month for triple play and with not line rental on top, for 12 months.

Incidently as ignition already knows, I have had compensation for my service quality so in affect a discount, but I dont ring retentions haggling, the discount is manually applied as long as my fault is existing and will happily pay full price when is fixed.

telfordcable 02-02-2011 12:50

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
IF YOU ARE ALREADY ON 10Mb AND ALREADY HAVE A SUPERHUB THEN WAIT FOR A FEW WEEKS AND YOU WILL BE UPLIFTED AT NO COST AUTOMATICALLY, BUT IF YOU CALL IN TO GET THE UPGRADE THEY WILL ATTEMPT TO CHARGE YOU. OH YES, YES, 10Mb UPLIFTED TO 30Mb FOR FREE OF CHARGE

Blackened 02-02-2011 12:51

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
wtf?

Stephen 02-02-2011 12:52

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35164587)
That's might take a long time for uplifted, might not work.

Of course it will work and it will not take a long time. Why do you think me and Masque have been mentioning this a few times in the thread!

telfordcable 02-02-2011 12:56

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35164605)
Of course it will work and it will not take a long time. Why do you think me and Masque have been mentioning this a few times in the thread!

It won't work that way because Virgin Media know some 20Meg customers still got old modem support up to 20Meg, so, there won't be automatically uplifted as it your own responsible, if you want 30Meg, get a superhub and pay £30! Otherwise stay as where you are at 20Meg with your old modem support 20Meg. .

qasdfdsaq 02-02-2011 13:03

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Down the Pub (Post 35164439)
well spoke to retentions and they can't do jack about it. they have fired an email to marketing about it as there are loads of people in the same boat with the loyalty packages.


still doesn't help though :rolleyes:

VM's retentions department continue to be the stingiest I've come across.

Peter_ 02-02-2011 13:04

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35164612)
It won't work that way because Virgin Media know some 20Meg customers still got old modem support up to 20Meg, so, there won't be automatically uplifted as it your own responsible, if you want 30Meg, get a superhub and pay £30! Otherwise stay as where you are at 20Meg with your old modem support 20Meg. .

I take it that you actually failed to read the post.

Stephen 02-02-2011 13:05

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Mo
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35164612)
It won't work that way because Virgin Media know some 20Meg customers still got old modem support up to 20Meg, so, there won't be automatically uplifted as it your own responsible, if you want 30Meg, get a superhub and pay £30! Otherwise stay as where you are at 20Meg with your old modem support 20Meg. .

What on earth are you smoking? We both stated only 20mb users with superhubs will be uplifted automatically.

qasdfdsaq 02-02-2011 13:06

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35164561)
Given the comical deal I was offered to not cancel an installation I wouldn't hold your breath on any kind of standardisation happening. VM are utterly terrified by churn.

It's not technically churn if you cancel before you're actually connected :p:

Given the offer(s) they made to you and myself (£50 credit, £60 cashback, £15 off for 3 months) and the fact once I'd joined they refused to admit the deal and didn't seem the slightest bit phased I was going to cancel under the 28-day satisfaction guarantee, looks like they're more terrified of losing acquisitions than churn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35164622)
I take it that you actually failed to read the post.

Have you ever seen him succeed at reading anything?

Stephen 02-02-2011 13:07

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35164598)
IF YOU ARE ALREADY ON 10Mb AND ALREADY HAVE A SUPERHUB THEN WAIT FOR A FEW WEEKS AND YOU WILL BE UPLIFTED AT NO COST AUTOMATICALLY, BUT IF YOU CALL IN TO GET THE UPGRADE THEY WILL ATTEMPT TO CHARGE YOU. OH YES, YES, 10Mb UPLIFTED TO 30Mb FOR FREE OF CHARGE

Eh?? Why would a 10mb customer have a superhub?

hemelvirgin 02-02-2011 13:17

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
hi,
ordered xl30 over phone. lady in india pretty good explained tech will do install next tues.
she said it will be a new 12 mnth contract.

not sure how they decide if a tech is needed as i think my bb is fine,saves waiting for the hub being delivered.

£30 on next bill & £1.50 reduction each month.

have activation number to call i guess after the tech has left to get the modem updated.

BenMcr 02-02-2011 13:21

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35164625)
Eh?? Why would a 10mb customer have a superhub?

If they paid £75 for one?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35164588)
It will work why do you think I posted it, you can pay if you want to but the is no need as above.:rolleyes:;)

Except you shouldn't pay the £30 even if you request the upgrade now

Stephen 02-02-2011 13:28

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35164634)
If they paid £75 for one?

I doubt there will be many of them at all though. I think TC was just being silly again though with his post.

Tony_W 02-02-2011 13:47

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
I received a letter yesterday from Virgin offering a free upgrade to 30Mb from 20mB with a one off charge of £30 but when I called I was told it would cost an extra £4 per month because of a promotional deal I signed up for when I upgraded my TV 3 months ago. Surely this just affects the TV - I don't understand why this affects the whole package. :confused::mad:

carbon60 02-02-2011 13:57

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35164347)
Moving people to XL30 will balance the load across all the downstreams so it will make a big difference.

I understand that but how will it affect an existing 20Mbit XL customer stuck on a single downstream? I'm not saying you are wrong I'd just like to know a bit more :)

I won't be moving until the SuperHub can be changed back into a modem.

vanman 02-02-2011 14:46

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35164436)
I have ordered the upgrade and even staff have to pay the £30 Activation/delivery charge, but I will get a 50% uplift in my speed 30Mb down and 3Mb up as my area has had the the Upstream uplift so it is a cheap price to pay for a relatively large upgrade.

I will have to wait but I know that it has been ordered.

so now its a Activation/delivery charge you need to make your mind up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35164436)
It says £30 to be activated on 30Mb in the dead link.


SnoopZ 02-02-2011 15:00

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35164736)
so now its a Activation/delivery charge you need to make your mind up.


If it was a delivery charge i shouldn't be paying because there will be someone installing mine!

I don't think even Virgin no what to call it anymore. :)

Dan_Man 02-02-2011 15:17

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
For those getting a £1.50 reduction in broadband cost, how much was you paying for your broadband originally before the reduction?

Peter_ 02-02-2011 15:25

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35164598)
IF YOU ARE ALREADY ON 10Mb AND ALREADY HAVE A SUPERHUB THEN WAIT FOR A FEW WEEKS AND YOU WILL BE UPLIFTED AT NO COST AUTOMATICALLY, BUT IF YOU CALL IN TO GET THE UPGRADE THEY WILL ATTEMPT TO CHARGE YOU. OH YES, YES, 10Mb UPLIFTED TO 30Mb FOR FREE OF CHARGE

This is now in the realms of fantasy, are you taking something rather exotic in order for your mind to work in such a strange place.https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/06/21.gif

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35164736)
so now its a Activation/delivery charge you need to make your mind up.


If you do not have a Superhub and you want to upgrade to 30Mb then they will ask for £30 of you for Activation and it will also pay towards the cost of the courier unless you are having a free manned install, either way we have to pay £30 to get the upgrade to 30Mb if we only have a standard modem or hub.

hemelvirgin 02-02-2011 15:25

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_Man (Post 35164768)
For those getting a £1.50 reduction in broadband cost, how much was you paying for your broadband originally before the reduction?

bb 20m xl £37 before £17 discount for triple service

Peter_ 02-02-2011 15:26

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35164625)
Eh?? Why would a 10mb customer have a superhub?

He collects the modems remember.:D

vanman 02-02-2011 15:36

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35164775)
This is now in the realms of fantasy, re you taking something rather exotic in order for your mind to work in such a strange place.https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/06/21.gif

surly that post should be moved to the humor section

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35164775)
If you do not have a Superhub and you want to upgrade to 30Mb then they will ask for £30 of you for Activation and it will also pay towards the cost of the courier unless you are having a free manned install, either way we have to pay £30 to get the upgrade to 30Mb if we only have a standard modem or hub.

so if you do have a superhub it will be £20 activation as the 50Mb is now.
and £10 to help with the post or for the installer to visit you
now that makes more sense.

Peter_ 02-02-2011 15:39

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35164782)
surly that post should be moved to the humor section

---------- Post added at 14:36 ---------- Previous post was at 14:26 ----------


so if you do have a superhub it will be £20 activation as the 50Mb is now and £10 to help with the post
now that makes more sense.

If you have read my post in the link below you do not need to pay if on 20Mb with a Superhub.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post1032.html

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_Man (Post 35164768)
For those getting a £1.50 reduction in broadband cost, how much was you paying for your broadband originally before the reduction?

Mine increased by £1.50 recently and I do not expect it to go down.:D

vanman 02-02-2011 15:44

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35164797)
If you have read my post in the link below you do not need to pay if on 20Mb with a Superhub.

.:D

thank's but i am ok !
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/02/147.png

Peter_ 02-02-2011 15:45

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35164802)
thank but i am ok !

You asked a question that others would want the answer to.;)

vanman 02-02-2011 15:50

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35164803)
You asked a question that others would want the answer to.;)

i was trying get a summarize of the £30 cost.;)

timberheadverde 02-02-2011 16:06

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Right so after 2 hours on the phone because there was something wrong with my super hub, i now have it set up, :) is there any confirmation 30meg will come free in couple weeks or should i just pay £30 now??

p.s i have read all the rest just confirming

Stephen 02-02-2011 16:09

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
It will come to you for free if on 20Mb with a superhub. Maybe 4-6 weeks or longer though.

timberheadverde 02-02-2011 16:19

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35164826)
It will come to you for free if on 20Mb with a superhub. Maybe 4-6 weeks or longer though.

hmmm is it worth the wait is the question now.... :confused: this could be tough

qasdfdsaq 02-02-2011 16:21

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35164826)
It will come to you for free if on 20Mb with a superhub. Maybe 4-6 weeks or longer though.

There's a few people saying this, including yourself, but I've not seen a definitive source for this information. Their press releases and website mention nothing of it.

Can you confirm you're absolutely sure about this based on an official VM source? For the record, I don't consider posts on this forum to be an official source.

Hugh 02-02-2011 16:23

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
The VM staffers are giving you the best information they have.

It is, imho, inappropriate to ask them to confirm it officially, as they are on this forum in an unofficial capacity.

Zee 02-02-2011 16:25

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
All im telling people here is dont be stupid and pay the £30 charge, upgrade to 50Mb for 6 months which will cost you £30 and get the superhub for free, then downgrade back to 30Mb if you wish.

If you already have a superhub, still upgrade to 50Mb as they will still attempt to charge you the £30.

The way they have done this is very stupid.

qasdfdsaq 02-02-2011 16:29

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony_W (Post 35164664)
I received a letter yesterday from Virgin offering a free upgrade to 30Mb from 20mB with a one off charge of £30 but when I called I was told it would cost an extra £4 per month because of a promotional deal I signed up for when I upgraded my TV 3 months ago. Surely this just affects the TV - I don't understand why this affects the whole package. :confused::mad:

Quote:

Free installation & activation upgrade offer: Offer ends 31st March 2011. Subject to network capacity. 12 month minimum contract term applies. If you cancel during the minimum contract period you will incur an early disconnection fee. Available to existing customers upgrading to broadband size XXL (subject to status and credit checks). Customers on non-standard pricing will need to move to standard pricing to receive these offers. Downgrading services in your bundle during the minimum period will attract a charge.
This'll be why people are being told they will lose their retentions deals.

Also note the old page is back up, though it's omits some key information in the T&Cs that are only mentioned on the new page:
http://shop.virginmedia.com/existing..._EC-30-Upgrade

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35164840)
The VM staffers are giving you the best information they have.

It is, imho, inappropriate to ask them to confirm it officially, as they are on this forum in an unofficial capacity.

Yet the same staffers were saying "we can't reveal anything, wait for an official announcement" only 3 days ago.

If it's information they have, it would be nice to know if it's confirmed information or just rumour. If it's unofficial information it's inappropriate for them to imply it as a certainty and tell people what to/not to do based on it.

Smilie 02-02-2011 16:33

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
im on a bundle package that have
TV M (no +)
Phone M
and BB XL

paying £32.24 (according to last email bill)

if i do upgrade would i have to go for TV M+ (as TV M isn't available in build a bundle)
which i think would make my bundle cost £37.99

Peter_ 02-02-2011 16:36

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35164844)

If it's information they have, it would be nice to know if it's confirmed information or just rumour. If it's unofficial information it's inappropriate for them to imply it as a certainty and tell people what to/not to do based on it.

OK lets just let everyone who already has a Superhub on 20Mb ring up and pay £30 for the upgrade and receive a new Superhub.

Stephen 02-02-2011 16:41

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35164837)
There's a few people saying this, including yourself, but I've not seen a definitive source for this information. Their press releases and website mention nothing of it.

Can you confirm you're absolutely sure about this based on an official VM source? For the record, I don't consider posts on this forum to be an official source.

The fact that there are a few of us telling you this should confirm to you that it will happen.

Remember not everyone will realise the change in speed is there or know they are entitled to it. But they will have been installed with a superhub with their 20mb for the last few weeks. So they will get uplifted to 30mb at some point in the next couple of months.

Zee 02-02-2011 16:47

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35164854)
OK lets just let everyone who already has a Superhub on 20Mb ring up and pay £30 for the upgrade and receive a new Superhub.

But thats what they are doing already

ShadowTD 02-02-2011 17:44

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Is it me, or has CF been overrun by morons in the last few months? Between this and the TiVO thread, the sheer amount of people wanting something for nothing and not even being prepared to wait for it when they may very well get summat for nowt is mind boggling! I've always appreciated the respect that CF afforded the VM staffers who chose to spend their free time on t'internet discussing work! You certainly wouldn't catch me doing it and I'm ruddy grateful that they do.

Chill out, calm down and show a bit of respect people. CF is very loosely moderated - if this was some of the other forums I frequent, the banhammer would have been wielded by now. Mad props to all the regulars for giving us as much info as they're allowed (and probably more than they should).

Rant over. Sorry mods.

Chris 02-02-2011 17:45

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowTD (Post 35164897)
CF is very loosely moderated - if this was some of the other forums I frequent, the banhammer would have been wielded by now.

I'm going to print that out and have it framed. ;)

looselipsuk 02-02-2011 17:51

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smilie (Post 35164851)
im on a bundle package that have
TV M (no +)
Phone M
and BB XL

paying £32.24 (according to last email bill)

if i do upgrade would i have to go for TV M+ (as TV M isn't available in build a bundle)
which i think would make my bundle cost £37.99

Do it by phone, like I did, and you can keep what you have and just have the upgrade in speed.
I had to do mine by phone as had a loyalty bonus but realised I was paying for some things I did not need. Dropped the extras so just have TV M and XL phone with caller display and will be paying less a month.
Am a very happy bunny.

Hugh 02-02-2011 19:32

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowTD (Post 35164897)
Is it me, or has CF been overrun by morons in the last few months? Between this and the TiVO thread, the sheer amount of people wanting something for nothing and not even being prepared to wait for it when they may very well get summat for nowt is mind boggling! I've always appreciated the respect that CF afforded the VM staffers who chose to spend their free time on t'internet discussing work! You certainly wouldn't catch me doing it and I'm ruddy grateful that they do.

Chill out, calm down and show a bit of respect people. CF is very loosely moderated - if this was some of the other forums I frequent, the banhammer would have been wielded by now. Mad props to all the regulars for giving us as much info as they're allowed (and probably more than they should).

Rant over. Sorry mods.

I prefer to call it "The Mallet of Loving Correctionâ„¢".;)

Sir John Luke 02-02-2011 19:48

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
"Customers on non-standard pricing will need to move to standard pricing to receive these offers."

I take it this means the monthly cost of my 20MB broadband (£37 - £12 discount = £25) will automatically reduce to the standard price of £18.50 for 30MB?

jtaylor06 02-02-2011 19:54

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Had ordered yesterday, but my mum called up today just to confirm it had gone through.
To our surprise, it had not gone through on the internet so while she was on phone she ordered it again.
SuperHub will be delivered Friday (agent originally said next Thursday)

Will let you know how everything goes!

BenMcr 02-02-2011 19:56

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
From what the briefs say yes, everyone that goes for XL (30) pays the same price

jtaylor06 02-02-2011 20:06

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35164899)
I'm going to print that out and have it framed. ;)

Just make sure you have 77 pages of paper first :p:

Sir John Luke 02-02-2011 20:22

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35165003)
From what the briefs say yes, everyone that goes for XL (30) pays the same price

Assuming that was in reply to me, thanks Ben.

Athanor 02-02-2011 20:23

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35164133)
It should not affect you upgrading to 30Mb as you will still be paying the same price the only difference is that you will have to pay £30 for the Superhub which you can order online. http://shop.virginmedia.com/existing...broadband.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35164147)
Mates rates means you get a £33.50 discount no matter how high a package you take

Well I put my order through online and got an email today with an install date of the 8th and a suspicious "agreed new monthly charge" line. Hmmm.....

In the spirit of sharing what I suspect is going to be an interesting call here comes a blow by blow account of my adventure into Virgin Media Customer Services... :)

Right, called Customer services and am now speaking to "Sharon" who, to my considerable surprise just told me "Because you've upgrade to 30mb and you've lots of discount you've lost your discounts and your monthly charge has increased by £44 to £70something". I say "Sharon" in quotes because I'm fairly certain that isn't her name and she isn't in Knowsley... Anyway, I digress.

I'm back on hold whilst Sharon checks something....

And we're back..

Having had a couple of minutes to let the enormity of my £44 per month "free" upgrade sink in I've asked Sharon to cancel the upgrade and charge. I'll stick with my lovely Mates Rates deal and 20mb.

Aha, apparently Sharon can't help me with that and has to put me through to her "self Install team".

Back on hold for a couple of minutes..

Now talking to a polite helpful chap called Will (clearly in Knowsley unless he's one of the roaming scousers you find all round the world) and have asked him to stop the changes, charges and cancel the install - I don't want to lose my rolling contract and Mates Rates discount. I'll stick with 20mb...

Back on hold, Will checking in with his manager, somethings not quite right...

OK, Will has checked and confirmed with his manager my monthly fees won't change after all but can't confirm in an email as he's in "activations" and not sure why "Sharon" put me through to him in the first place.

Will offers to put me back through to Customer Service - OK, in for a penny I suppose...

Now on hold on my way back to Customer Services for someone else to hopefully confirm I'm not starting a new 12month contract or losing my Mates Rates discounts... /sigh

5 minutes of agreeable hold music so far...

I have a bad feeling about this....

and I was right to be - been cut off after 10 mins on hold...

Ok, much against my better judgment I'm dialing 150 and trying CS again...

10mins of jaunty music and still waiting for someone to speak to me...

Ohh, Eliza Doolittle, I like this one... Switch to hands free and boogy around the room to ease my now numb limbs...

15 mins... considering sending out for Pizza, this could be a long evening...

Hurray, through to Matthew (Could be anywhere, he's not giving it away with any noticeable accent) in installs who confirms that there should absolutely be no extra charges, my discounts don't change, it is just one £30.

Fantastic - nice one Matthew - everyone should just have your direct line number...

Matthew doing a bit more digging and "Sharon" has canceled the order after all, Matthew (who is incredibly polite and helpfully despite my ramblings and obvious phone fatigue at this point) offers to rebook the order and install, confirms I won't lose my discount and helps me change the install date by a day which actually makes my life easier anyway.

Slump back in my chair, beg wifey to find a beer and crisps to help revive my frazled brain and body with a generous helping of salt, vinegar and alcohol.

Post the fun here and then wait to receive the inevitable letter in a couple of days thanking me for taking out a new 12 month contract and detailing the additional £44 per month charges I may, or may not have agreed to depending on what hidden horrors have been inflicted on my account by "Sharon" or not...

I'll let you know how it all goes next week :)

trublue 02-02-2011 20:31

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
For arguments sake,if you don't have the superhub can you stop on the 20mb/s indefinitely,or will it be phased out some time in the near future?

browney 02-02-2011 20:36

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Athanor,

I am on retail rates deal and I was also told my bill would go up by £44per month to about £70.

I then went online and done the upgrade and got a date of the 11th Feb but I'm worried that my next bill will be £70 and I don't want to call CS for it to be messed about with.

Luckily I know a VM Rep so I am dealing with him via mobile and e-mail.....I hope.

BenMcr 02-02-2011 20:36

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trublue (Post 35165050)
For arguments sake,if you don't have the superhub can you stop on the 20mb/s indefinitely,or will it be phased out some time in the near future?

Virgin never phase out a tier of service if they don't have to, so you should be able to remain on it for as long as you want.

If they do decide to stop it you would get a letter with enough notice to sort out any changes

Athanor 02-02-2011 20:46

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by browney (Post 35165057)
Athanor,

I am on retail rates deal and I was also told my bill would go up by £44per month to about £70.

I then went online and done the upgrade and got a date of the 11th Feb but I'm worried that my next bill will be £70 and I don't want to call CS for it to be messed about with.

Luckily I know a VM Rep so I am dealing with him via mobile and e-mail.....I hope.

Let me know how you get on, if it's any help Will and MAtthew (along with their managers) have assured me there's no change other than the £30 activation and they have no idea why the CSR said it would go up by £44,

I feel a visit to the CEOs office (not his actual office you understand, rather his army of people that keep people like me from reaching him) next time i'm in Hook coming on... :)

vmfriend 02-02-2011 20:58

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowTD (Post 35164897)
Is it me, or has CF been overrun by morons in the last few months? Between this and the TiVO thread, the sheer amount of people wanting something for nothing and not even being prepared to wait for it when they may very well get summat for nowt is mind boggling! I've always appreciated the respect that CF afforded the VM staffers who chose to spend their free time on t'internet discussing work! You certainly wouldn't catch me doing it and I'm ruddy grateful that they do.

Chill out, calm down and show a bit of respect people. CF is very loosely moderated - if this was some of the other forums I frequent, the banhammer would have been wielded by now. Mad props to all the regulars for giving us as much info as they're allowed (and probably more than they should).

Rant over. Sorry mods.

I agree, I am actually amazed that I will be paying less for 30mb than I was for 20mb.

If people continually keep questioning the VM staffers then they will just stop posting.

As far as I can see all they are saying is if you are currently on 20mb and are price sensitive (ie you don't want to pay the £30 activation fee) AND currently have a superhub, be patient as there is a very strong possibility you will be uplifted to 30mb for free.

Inpatience, or the urgent need for 30mb comes at price and that is £30.

trublue 02-02-2011 21:12

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Thanks for the reply BenMcr

qasdfdsaq 02-02-2011 21:23

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vmfriend (Post 35165088)
If people continually keep questioning the VM staffers then they will just stop posting.

As far as I can see all they are saying is if you are currently on 20mb and are price sensitive (ie you don't want to pay the £30 activation fee) AND currently have a superhub, be patient as there is a very strong possibility you will be uplifted to 30mb for free.

All I asked is whether the information given was:
a) Confirmed plans from VM
b) Speculation

Nothing to do with impatience. I couldn't care less when it happens, I'm already on 50mb and the only upgrade I care about is 100mb.

Hugh 02-02-2011 21:45

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
It's what they believe is going to happen - asking them to officially confirm it is unfair.

vmfriend 02-02-2011 21:47

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35165127)
All I asked is whether the information given was:
a) Confirmed plans from VM
b) Speculation

Nothing to do with impatience. I couldn't care less when it happens, I'm already on 50mb and the only upgrade I care about is 100mb.

Not sure why I was quoted but here you go :

a) Confirmed plans are not announced on this site, Virgin do that officially on the Virgin website and via selected media outlets, asking a VM staff member to do it on this site is disrespectful (imo) as they could lose their job.
b) Don't have a problem with speculation, just don't expect a VM staff member to confirm something 'officially' in this forum, that isn't why they post here.

BenMcr 02-02-2011 22:07

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vmfriend (Post 35165088)
As far as I can see all they are saying is if you are currently on 20mb and are price sensitive (ie you don't want to pay the £30 activation fee) AND currently have a superhub, be patient as there is a very strong possibility you will be uplifted to 30mb for free..

Actually if you have the SuperHub (or VMNG300) you can upgraded to 30Mbit without paying the £30 fee now. It's no secret

However you still have to phone up to get it processed

qasdfdsaq 02-02-2011 22:18

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35165147)
It's what they believe is going to happen - asking them to officially confirm it is unfair.

I never asked anyone to confirm anything officially. All I asked is whether they know for sure or are just guessing. I don't see how that's at all unfair.

I could say pigs can fly. Could just have easily read it on Facebook as seen it myself. I certainly don't think it would be unfair to ask which.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vmfriend (Post 35165148)
Not sure why I was quoted but here you go :

a) Confirmed plans are not announced on this site, Virgin do that officially on the Virgin website and via selected media outlets, asking a VM staff member to do it on this site is disrespectful (imo) as they could lose their job.
b) Don't have a problem with speculation, just don't expect a VM staff member to confirm something 'officially' in this forum, that isn't why they post here.

It sounded like you were questioning me questioning VM staffers.

a) Rubbish. Confirmed plans for the 30mb upgrade were were announced on this site well before VM did so on their own website, they were also announced officially on dozens of other technology news sites before VM did so on their own site.

Asking a poster on a forum to confirm if what they said was guessing or based on fact is not at all disrespectful and has nothing to do with their job. If they're posting information their job forbids them from posting, that has nothing to do with me.

b) I couldn't care less who they are, whether they're VM staff or not or whether their official or not. If someone posts a statement as fact with no clear justification and no evidence to back it up, it's perfectly reasonable to ask if they're sure and what makes them think that.

Almost all the VM staff here have disclaimers like
"All views expressed by me on this forum are my own"
I see absolutely nothing wrong with questioning someone's personal opinion on a discussion board. All I asked for is an answer like

"I'm sure because I read it on site X" or
"I'm pretty sure, somebody important told me at the pub" or
"I'm just guessing because [insert reasoning here]"

If they're not willing to answer they can say so themselves.

KenK 02-02-2011 23:03

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KenK (Post 35164224)
I have no need for a "wireless n" anything, ...

OK, let me rephrase that - I have no need for a "wireless" anything
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35164347)
You won't be able to use 30mb without wireless N

:confused: Copper cables ??

Ignitionnet 02-02-2011 23:06

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KenK (Post 35165203)
OK, let me rephrase that - I have no need for a "wireless" anything
:confused: Copper cables ??

Whether you have need or not you want the 30Mb unless you have a VMNG300, the modem that was provided to 50Mb customers initially, you are getting a Superhub which is wireless 'n' compatible.

It's not about what you need it's about the equipment the operator requires you to have to use the service.

KenK 02-02-2011 23:17

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35165206)
Whether you have need or not you want the 30Mb unless you have a VMNG300, the modem that was provided to 50Mb customers initially, you are getting a Superhub which is wireless 'n' compatible.

It's not about what you need it's about the equipment the operator requires you to have to use the service.

Just responding to qasdfdsaq's erroneous assertion.

qasdfdsaq 02-02-2011 23:24

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KenK (Post 35165203)
OK, let me rephrase that - I have no need for a "wireless" anything
:confused: Copper cables ??

OK, your first post suggested you didn't care about "wireless n" without specifically saying you don't want wireless anything else either. The N wasn't at all relevant and confused things.

If you intend to use only wired ethernet, then yes, of course you won't need wireless of any sort.

vmfriend 02-02-2011 23:30

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
@qasdfdsaq

I wasn't questioning you at all, why would you think I was ?

Your entitled to you opinion, I was just offering mine.

I have no desire to enforce my opinion on you or anyone else on this forum, I was just expressing my own opinion based on a number of posts within this thread.

qasdfdsaq 02-02-2011 23:35

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vmfriend (Post 35165231)
@qasdfdsaq

I wasn't questioning you at all, why would you think I was ?

Your entitled to you opinion, I was just offering mine.

I have no desire to enforce my opinion on you or anyone else on this forum, I was just expressing my own opinion based on a number of posts within this thread.

Sorry, I assumed wrong. Thought the comment was directed at me as everyone else was questioning my questioning at the time :p:

vmfriend 02-02-2011 23:40

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
No problem ;)

KenK 02-02-2011 23:45

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35165206)
It's not about what you need it's about the equipment the operator requires you to have to use the service.

I thought the deal was that I paid for the service, and the operator paid for and installed their own equipment to provide it.
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35165224)
If you intend to use only wired ethernet, then yes, of course you won't need wireless of any sort.

So I would be able to use 30mb without wireless n.

BenMcr 02-02-2011 23:47

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KenK (Post 35165263)
So I would be able to use 30mb without wireless n.

Yes but you still need the SuperHub - you can just turn the Wireles radio off and use the 4 wired ports on it

Hugh 02-02-2011 23:48

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35164837)
There's a few people saying this, including yourself, but I've not seen a definitive source for this information. Their press releases and website mention nothing of it.

Can you confirm you're absolutely sure about this based on an official VM source? For the record, I don't consider posts on this forum to be an official source.

Ahem......;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35165168)
I never asked anyone to confirm anything officially. All I asked is whether they know for sure or are just guessing. I don't see how that's at all unfair.

I'm not sure if there's a major difference between "asking someone to confirm something officially" and "to confirm that they are sure it is based on an official source".......

qasdfdsaq 02-02-2011 23:53

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35165270)
Ahem......;)

"Can you confirm you're absolutely sure about this" being the operative part. "based on an official VM source?" as the other.

Not

"Can you confirm absolutely on VM's behalf" or "be an official source".

I only asked if he was sure of his opinion and what it's based on. It could just as well have been on a press release or an obscure page of the website I hadn't seen. I never asked for an official statement on behalf of the company. I don't see how this is unclear.

Hugh 02-02-2011 23:57

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
We obviously read things differently - I believed "official source" was the bit you were concerned about (providing verification)......

My apologies.

KenK 03-02-2011 00:02

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35165266)
Yes but you still need the SuperHub

... for which I would need to pay an activation/delivery charge. For a speed upgrade that will soon be given out free to anyone who already has the kit, whether they paid for it or were given it free (upgraders or new customers, perhaps). VM have a funny way of trying to keep their long-term customers happy.

qasdfdsaq 03-02-2011 00:16

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35165288)
We obviously read things differently - I believed "official source" was the bit you were concerned about (providing verification)......

My apologies.

Not a problem. I'm beginning to see where the confusion is coming from now. I should probably have phrased it better.

All I wanted to know is if he was sure this was going to happen, and whether he found out through credible channels, vs., say, from the bloke down the pub, or just because thats how he thought it should happen (OK maybe implying a team member is thinking like telfordcable might not have been the brightest idea either :p:)

Stephen 03-02-2011 00:25

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
I work for VM and got it from a very reliable source.

Also there have now been a few of us telling you that it will happen so you'd think that would confirm we are not making it up or guessing.

Peter_ 03-02-2011 07:14

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35165314)
(OK maybe implying a team member is thinking like telfordcable might not have been the brightest idea either )

Not really.https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/11/13.gifhttps://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/11/13.gifhttps://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/11/13.gif

ZrByte 03-02-2011 08:57

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
This threads gotten pretty big, any chance someone could summarise what's happening right now in one post? I did try to keep up until about post #300 but lost it until yesterday and finding it hard to wade through 800+ posts to find the info. Also finding a lot of contradicting stuff.

Basically want to know the following....
Is the upgrade available now to 20mb customers on old kit or am I just getting the superhub with hopes of being upgraded later? (i.e. Is the speed increase immediate once the new kit is installed or does that come once my area is switched over like with previous free upgrades?)

How is the upgrade paid? One-off card payment or added onto my bill?

Does this start a new contract? And if so What length?

Will me being only 6 months into my current contract hinder me in getting the upgrade? I know it normally wouldn't but I've seen mention of new 12 month contracts coming in with the upgrade as above.

Any difference in STM or is it the same as 20mb? (I assume same as 20mb will be the case).

Think that's everything I wanted to know. If anyone responds and they feel they have more relevant info that I haven't asked for feel free to add it to your reply.

BenMcr 03-02-2011 09:43

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZrByte (Post 35165383)
Is the upgrade available now to 20mb customers on old kit or am I just getting the superhub with hopes of being upgraded later? (i.e. Is the speed increase immediate once the new kit is installed or does that come once my area is switched over like with previous free upgrades?)

As soon as you get the SuperHub you would get 30Mbit. What upload you get is dependent of the Faster Upload work being completed in your area

Quote:

How is the upgrade paid? One-off card payment or added onto my bill?
Added to the bill unless you have a Credit Limit and the changes would take you over it

Quote:

Does this start a new contract? And if so What length?
Yes if you require new kit, for 12 months. (If anyone has an 18 month contract and has over 12 months to go on it then the end of the minimum term wouldn't change)

Quote:

Will me being only 6 months into my current contract hinder me in getting the upgrade?
No, however depending on your current minimum term your broadband may remain under a new minimum term for longer than the other services

Quote:

Any difference in STM or is it the same as 20mb?
Differences are here http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/tra...nt-policy.html (As with the other services, a different upload policy applies depending if you have the faster upload or not)

qasdfdsaq 03-02-2011 10:45

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Only the policy for people without faster upload has disappeared :-/

Blackened 03-02-2011 10:50

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
I love it when an engineer rings and asks if he can call 3 hours before the allotted time window :p:

BenMcr 03-02-2011 10:51

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35165445)
Only the policy for people without faster upload has disappeared :-/

Oh poppyseeds ;)

E-mail sent to a colleague

Chrysalis 03-02-2011 10:54

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
ok I got my superhub in and activated but I think something is wrong, I asked the lady on the other end is she 100% sure its working and she said yes but I need to wait 5 mins for the signal.

I only have one downstream channel locked, also for those curious my upstream is already docsis2 I think. 5120 symbole rate.

Startup Procedure
Procedure Status Comment
Acquire Downstream Channel 402750000 Hz Locked
Connectivity State OK Operational
Boot State OK Operational
Configuration File OK
Security Enabled BPI


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Downstream Channels
Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power SNR Docsis/EuroDocsis locked
Locked QAM256 1 42884296 Kbits/sec 402750000 Hz 4.7 dBmV 44.9 dB Hybrid
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Upstream Channels
Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power
Locked TDMA 1 5120 Kbits/sec 25800000 Hz 39.5 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV

BenMcr 03-02-2011 10:55

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
What speed are you actually getting though?

Tod 03-02-2011 10:56

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Typical....I phone up for my "Free Upgrade" to be told I have to pay another £10 per month! They make it up as they go along...free update my ass!

whizzard 03-02-2011 10:57

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Is the top light on your Superhub green? If its locked onto DOCSIS3 it would be blue, and judging by your internal stats it's currently locked onto DOCSIS2, hence the single channel.

SnoopZ 03-02-2011 10:57

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tod (Post 35165460)
Typical....I phone up for my "Free Upgrade" to be told I have to pay another £10 per month! They make it up as they go along...free update my ass!

You must be on a retentions deal?

Chris 03-02-2011 10:58

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tod (Post 35165460)
Typical....I phone up for my "Free Upgrade" to be told I have to pay another £10 per month! They make it up as they go along...free update my ass!

You've not read the thread then?

vanman 03-02-2011 10:58

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tod (Post 35165460)
Typical....I phone up for my "Free Upgrade" to be told I have to pay another £10 per month! They make it up as they go along...free update my ass!

thats becuase you are on the L 10Mb .

Chrysalis 03-02-2011 10:59

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
benmcr no speed its offline.

here is from event log mac filtered out.

SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire FEC framing;CM-MAC=<filtered>;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00;CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0;

qasdfdsaq 03-02-2011 11:00

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35165458)
ok I got my superhub in and activated but I think something is wrong, I asked the lady on the other end is she 100% sure its working and she said yes but I need to wait 5 mins for the signal.

I only have one downstream channel locked, also for those curious my upstream is already docsis2 I think. 5120 symbole rate.

Startup Procedure
Procedure Status Comment
Acquire Downstream Channel 402750000 Hz Locked
Connectivity State OK Operational
Boot State OK Operational
Configuration File OK
Security Enabled BPI


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Downstream Channels
Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power SNR Docsis/EuroDocsis locked
Locked QAM256 1 42884296 Kbits/sec 402750000 Hz 4.7 dBmV 44.9 dB Hybrid
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Upstream Channels
Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power
Locked TDMA 1 5120 Kbits/sec 25800000 Hz 39.5 dBmV

Whoah there!
It's all wrong... waaay wrong.

Your downstream is on non-EURO docsis (should be 55mbps down not 42mbps) and your upstream is majorly broken.

It's not 5120Ksym/sec, it's exactly what it says - 5120Kbits/sec

That's half the lowest I've ever seen VM use. Probably QPSK. Normal DS2.0 upstream in most areas is 20mbit/sec.

Did you say you were on legacy or overlay before the SH arrived? Maybe the CEO office's tinkering locked you onto one or the other and it's not been moved for 30mb?

Tod 03-02-2011 11:01

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35165466)
thats becuase you are on the L 10Mb .

Nope, I am on XL 20mb

vanman 03-02-2011 11:02

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whizzard (Post 35165462)
Is the top light on your Superhub green? If its locked onto DOCSIS3 it would be blue, and judging by your internal stats it's currently locked onto DOCSIS2, hence the single channel.

top light on my Superhub turn's blue when i put it on the 5ghz .

Chrysalis 03-02-2011 11:02

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
qasdfdsaq haha I told you my area has serious issues :p so not even eurodocsis?

my upstream on old modem was QAM16. I assumed I would stay on the same docsis3 as I was on before, this is becoming a joke.

Chris 03-02-2011 11:02

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
And do you have a retentions deal Tod?

vanman 03-02-2011 11:03

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tod (Post 35165470)
Nope, I am on XL 20mb

sorry was going from
Quote:

Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Aldershot, Hampshire
Services: Virgin Media - V+HD, TV XL, Broadband L, Phone XL,

Tod 03-02-2011 11:04

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35165475)
sorry was going from

Oh yeah.....I havn't changed that for a while! Amended :)

Chrysalis 03-02-2011 11:04

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35165476)
Personally I have no clue what that means

any ideas on what I posted ben?

qasdfdsaq 03-02-2011 11:06

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35165473)
qasdfdsaq haha I told you my area has serious issues :p so not even eurodocsis?

I'm not sure about this and Ignition would now better than me, but I believe all 50mb+ channels (i.e. overlay) use 55mb EURODOCSIS channels whereas some parts of legacy use the "US" 42mbps channels. Still think you might have been overridden and putting 30mb on your acc hasn't taken off the override?

Status looks like it should be online. What do the config pages say? (Not got a SH so don't know exactly what they're called, but I mean the ones that tell you your upstream/downstream rate caps and so on)

From what I gather of all the info in this thread 30mb *should* be using the exact same channel configuration as 50/100mb. And that certainly isn't it.

Chrysalis 03-02-2011 11:08

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
hee is more releveant logs sorry, the line I pasted was just for time sync.

Thu Feb 03 09:55:34 2011 Error (4) Missing BP Configuration Setting TLV Type: 17.8;CM-MAC=ggg;CMTS-MAC=ggg;CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0;
Thu Feb 03 09:55:34 2011 Error (4) Missing BP Configuration Setting TLV Type: 17.9;CM-MAC=gggg;CMTS-MAC=ggg;CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0;
Time Not Established Critical (3) DHCP FAILED - Requested Info not supported.;CM-MAC=ggg;CMTS-MAC=ggg;CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0;
Time Not Established Critical (3) No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=ggg;CMTS-MAC=ggg;CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0;
Time Not Established Warning (5) Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=gggg;CMTS-MAC=ggg;CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0;
Time Not Established Warning (5) MDD message timeout;CM-MAC=ggg;CMTS-MAC=ggg;CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0;

BenMcr 03-02-2011 11:08

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35165478)
any ideas on what I posted ben?

That's what I was saying I had no clue on, but ended up in the wrong place so deleted the post (but not quick enough it seems) lol


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