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£10 month for triple play and with not line rental on top, for 12 months. Incidently as ignition already knows, I have had compensation for my service quality so in affect a discount, but I dont ring retentions haggling, the discount is manually applied as long as my fault is existing and will happily pay full price when is fixed. |
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IF YOU ARE ALREADY ON 10Mb AND ALREADY HAVE A SUPERHUB THEN WAIT FOR A FEW WEEKS AND YOU WILL BE UPLIFTED AT NO COST AUTOMATICALLY, BUT IF YOU CALL IN TO GET THE UPGRADE THEY WILL ATTEMPT TO CHARGE YOU. OH YES, YES, 10Mb UPLIFTED TO 30Mb FOR FREE OF CHARGE
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Given the offer(s) they made to you and myself (£50 credit, £60 cashback, £15 off for 3 months) and the fact once I'd joined they refused to admit the deal and didn't seem the slightest bit phased I was going to cancel under the 28-day satisfaction guarantee, looks like they're more terrified of losing acquisitions than churn. Quote:
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ordered xl30 over phone. lady in india pretty good explained tech will do install next tues. she said it will be a new 12 mnth contract. not sure how they decide if a tech is needed as i think my bb is fine,saves waiting for the hub being delivered. £30 on next bill & £1.50 reduction each month. have activation number to call i guess after the tech has left to get the modem updated. |
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I received a letter yesterday from Virgin offering a free upgrade to 30Mb from 20mB with a one off charge of £30 but when I called I was told it would cost an extra £4 per month because of a promotional deal I signed up for when I upgraded my TV 3 months ago. Surely this just affects the TV - I don't understand why this affects the whole package. :confused::mad:
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I don't think even Virgin no what to call it anymore. :) |
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For those getting a £1.50 reduction in broadband cost, how much was you paying for your broadband originally before the reduction?
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and £10 to help with the post or for the installer to visit you now that makes more sense. |
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Right so after 2 hours on the phone because there was something wrong with my super hub, i now have it set up, :) is there any confirmation 30meg will come free in couple weeks or should i just pay £30 now??
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It will come to you for free if on 20Mb with a superhub. Maybe 4-6 weeks or longer though.
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Can you confirm you're absolutely sure about this based on an official VM source? For the record, I don't consider posts on this forum to be an official source. |
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The VM staffers are giving you the best information they have.
It is, imho, inappropriate to ask them to confirm it officially, as they are on this forum in an unofficial capacity. |
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All im telling people here is dont be stupid and pay the £30 charge, upgrade to 50Mb for 6 months which will cost you £30 and get the superhub for free, then downgrade back to 30Mb if you wish.
If you already have a superhub, still upgrade to 50Mb as they will still attempt to charge you the £30. The way they have done this is very stupid. |
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If it's information they have, it would be nice to know if it's confirmed information or just rumour. If it's unofficial information it's inappropriate for them to imply it as a certainty and tell people what to/not to do based on it. |
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im on a bundle package that have
TV M (no +) Phone M and BB XL paying £32.24 (according to last email bill) if i do upgrade would i have to go for TV M+ (as TV M isn't available in build a bundle) which i think would make my bundle cost £37.99 |
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Remember not everyone will realise the change in speed is there or know they are entitled to it. But they will have been installed with a superhub with their 20mb for the last few weeks. So they will get uplifted to 30mb at some point in the next couple of months. |
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Is it me, or has CF been overrun by morons in the last few months? Between this and the TiVO thread, the sheer amount of people wanting something for nothing and not even being prepared to wait for it when they may very well get summat for nowt is mind boggling! I've always appreciated the respect that CF afforded the VM staffers who chose to spend their free time on t'internet discussing work! You certainly wouldn't catch me doing it and I'm ruddy grateful that they do.
Chill out, calm down and show a bit of respect people. CF is very loosely moderated - if this was some of the other forums I frequent, the banhammer would have been wielded by now. Mad props to all the regulars for giving us as much info as they're allowed (and probably more than they should). Rant over. Sorry mods. |
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I had to do mine by phone as had a loyalty bonus but realised I was paying for some things I did not need. Dropped the extras so just have TV M and XL phone with caller display and will be paying less a month. Am a very happy bunny. |
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"Customers on non-standard pricing will need to move to standard pricing to receive these offers."
I take it this means the monthly cost of my 20MB broadband (£37 - £12 discount = £25) will automatically reduce to the standard price of £18.50 for 30MB? |
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Had ordered yesterday, but my mum called up today just to confirm it had gone through.
To our surprise, it had not gone through on the internet so while she was on phone she ordered it again. SuperHub will be delivered Friday (agent originally said next Thursday) Will let you know how everything goes! |
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From what the briefs say yes, everyone that goes for XL (30) pays the same price
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In the spirit of sharing what I suspect is going to be an interesting call here comes a blow by blow account of my adventure into Virgin Media Customer Services... :) Right, called Customer services and am now speaking to "Sharon" who, to my considerable surprise just told me "Because you've upgrade to 30mb and you've lots of discount you've lost your discounts and your monthly charge has increased by £44 to £70something". I say "Sharon" in quotes because I'm fairly certain that isn't her name and she isn't in Knowsley... Anyway, I digress. I'm back on hold whilst Sharon checks something.... And we're back.. Having had a couple of minutes to let the enormity of my £44 per month "free" upgrade sink in I've asked Sharon to cancel the upgrade and charge. I'll stick with my lovely Mates Rates deal and 20mb. Aha, apparently Sharon can't help me with that and has to put me through to her "self Install team". Back on hold for a couple of minutes.. Now talking to a polite helpful chap called Will (clearly in Knowsley unless he's one of the roaming scousers you find all round the world) and have asked him to stop the changes, charges and cancel the install - I don't want to lose my rolling contract and Mates Rates discount. I'll stick with 20mb... Back on hold, Will checking in with his manager, somethings not quite right... OK, Will has checked and confirmed with his manager my monthly fees won't change after all but can't confirm in an email as he's in "activations" and not sure why "Sharon" put me through to him in the first place. Will offers to put me back through to Customer Service - OK, in for a penny I suppose... Now on hold on my way back to Customer Services for someone else to hopefully confirm I'm not starting a new 12month contract or losing my Mates Rates discounts... /sigh 5 minutes of agreeable hold music so far... I have a bad feeling about this.... and I was right to be - been cut off after 10 mins on hold... Ok, much against my better judgment I'm dialing 150 and trying CS again... 10mins of jaunty music and still waiting for someone to speak to me... Ohh, Eliza Doolittle, I like this one... Switch to hands free and boogy around the room to ease my now numb limbs... 15 mins... considering sending out for Pizza, this could be a long evening... Hurray, through to Matthew (Could be anywhere, he's not giving it away with any noticeable accent) in installs who confirms that there should absolutely be no extra charges, my discounts don't change, it is just one £30. Fantastic - nice one Matthew - everyone should just have your direct line number... Matthew doing a bit more digging and "Sharon" has canceled the order after all, Matthew (who is incredibly polite and helpfully despite my ramblings and obvious phone fatigue at this point) offers to rebook the order and install, confirms I won't lose my discount and helps me change the install date by a day which actually makes my life easier anyway. Slump back in my chair, beg wifey to find a beer and crisps to help revive my frazled brain and body with a generous helping of salt, vinegar and alcohol. Post the fun here and then wait to receive the inevitable letter in a couple of days thanking me for taking out a new 12 month contract and detailing the additional £44 per month charges I may, or may not have agreed to depending on what hidden horrors have been inflicted on my account by "Sharon" or not... I'll let you know how it all goes next week :) |
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For arguments sake,if you don't have the superhub can you stop on the 20mb/s indefinitely,or will it be phased out some time in the near future?
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Athanor,
I am on retail rates deal and I was also told my bill would go up by £44per month to about £70. I then went online and done the upgrade and got a date of the 11th Feb but I'm worried that my next bill will be £70 and I don't want to call CS for it to be messed about with. Luckily I know a VM Rep so I am dealing with him via mobile and e-mail.....I hope. |
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If they do decide to stop it you would get a letter with enough notice to sort out any changes |
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I feel a visit to the CEOs office (not his actual office you understand, rather his army of people that keep people like me from reaching him) next time i'm in Hook coming on... :) |
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If people continually keep questioning the VM staffers then they will just stop posting. As far as I can see all they are saying is if you are currently on 20mb and are price sensitive (ie you don't want to pay the £30 activation fee) AND currently have a superhub, be patient as there is a very strong possibility you will be uplifted to 30mb for free. Inpatience, or the urgent need for 30mb comes at price and that is £30. |
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Thanks for the reply BenMcr
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a) Confirmed plans from VM b) Speculation Nothing to do with impatience. I couldn't care less when it happens, I'm already on 50mb and the only upgrade I care about is 100mb. |
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It's what they believe is going to happen - asking them to officially confirm it is unfair.
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a) Confirmed plans are not announced on this site, Virgin do that officially on the Virgin website and via selected media outlets, asking a VM staff member to do it on this site is disrespectful (imo) as they could lose their job. b) Don't have a problem with speculation, just don't expect a VM staff member to confirm something 'officially' in this forum, that isn't why they post here. |
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a) Rubbish. Confirmed plans for the 30mb upgrade were were announced on this site well before VM did so on their own website, they were also announced officially on dozens of other technology news sites before VM did so on their own site. Asking a poster on a forum to confirm if what they said was guessing or based on fact is not at all disrespectful and has nothing to do with their job. If they're posting information their job forbids them from posting, that has nothing to do with me. b) I couldn't care less who they are, whether they're VM staff or not or whether their official or not. If someone posts a statement as fact with no clear justification and no evidence to back it up, it's perfectly reasonable to ask if they're sure and what makes them think that. Almost all the VM staff here have disclaimers like "All views expressed by me on this forum are my own" I see absolutely nothing wrong with questioning someone's personal opinion on a discussion board. All I asked for is an answer like "I'm sure because I read it on site X" or "I'm pretty sure, somebody important told me at the pub" or "I'm just guessing because [insert reasoning here]" If they're not willing to answer they can say so themselves. |
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It's not about what you need it's about the equipment the operator requires you to have to use the service. |
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If you intend to use only wired ethernet, then yes, of course you won't need wireless of any sort. |
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I wasn't questioning you at all, why would you think I was ? Your entitled to you opinion, I was just offering mine. I have no desire to enforce my opinion on you or anyone else on this forum, I was just expressing my own opinion based on a number of posts within this thread. |
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No problem ;)
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Not "Can you confirm absolutely on VM's behalf" or "be an official source". I only asked if he was sure of his opinion and what it's based on. It could just as well have been on a press release or an obscure page of the website I hadn't seen. I never asked for an official statement on behalf of the company. I don't see how this is unclear. |
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We obviously read things differently - I believed "official source" was the bit you were concerned about (providing verification)......
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All I wanted to know is if he was sure this was going to happen, and whether he found out through credible channels, vs., say, from the bloke down the pub, or just because thats how he thought it should happen (OK maybe implying a team member is thinking like telfordcable might not have been the brightest idea either :p:) |
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I work for VM and got it from a very reliable source.
Also there have now been a few of us telling you that it will happen so you'd think that would confirm we are not making it up or guessing. |
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This threads gotten pretty big, any chance someone could summarise what's happening right now in one post? I did try to keep up until about post #300 but lost it until yesterday and finding it hard to wade through 800+ posts to find the info. Also finding a lot of contradicting stuff.
Basically want to know the following.... Is the upgrade available now to 20mb customers on old kit or am I just getting the superhub with hopes of being upgraded later? (i.e. Is the speed increase immediate once the new kit is installed or does that come once my area is switched over like with previous free upgrades?) How is the upgrade paid? One-off card payment or added onto my bill? Does this start a new contract? And if so What length? Will me being only 6 months into my current contract hinder me in getting the upgrade? I know it normally wouldn't but I've seen mention of new 12 month contracts coming in with the upgrade as above. Any difference in STM or is it the same as 20mb? (I assume same as 20mb will be the case). Think that's everything I wanted to know. If anyone responds and they feel they have more relevant info that I haven't asked for feel free to add it to your reply. |
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Only the policy for people without faster upload has disappeared :-/
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I love it when an engineer rings and asks if he can call 3 hours before the allotted time window :p:
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ok I got my superhub in and activated but I think something is wrong, I asked the lady on the other end is she 100% sure its working and she said yes but I need to wait 5 mins for the signal.
I only have one downstream channel locked, also for those curious my upstream is already docsis2 I think. 5120 symbole rate. Startup Procedure Procedure Status Comment Acquire Downstream Channel 402750000 Hz Locked Connectivity State OK Operational Boot State OK Operational Configuration File OK Security Enabled BPI -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Downstream Channels Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power SNR Docsis/EuroDocsis locked Locked QAM256 1 42884296 Kbits/sec 402750000 Hz 4.7 dBmV 44.9 dB Hybrid Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Upstream Channels Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power Locked TDMA 1 5120 Kbits/sec 25800000 Hz 39.5 dBmV Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV |
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What speed are you actually getting though?
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Typical....I phone up for my "Free Upgrade" to be told I have to pay another £10 per month! They make it up as they go along...free update my ass!
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Is the top light on your Superhub green? If its locked onto DOCSIS3 it would be blue, and judging by your internal stats it's currently locked onto DOCSIS2, hence the single channel.
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benmcr no speed its offline.
here is from event log mac filtered out. SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire FEC framing;CM-MAC=<filtered>;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00;CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0; |
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It's all wrong... waaay wrong. Your downstream is on non-EURO docsis (should be 55mbps down not 42mbps) and your upstream is majorly broken. It's not 5120Ksym/sec, it's exactly what it says - 5120Kbits/sec That's half the lowest I've ever seen VM use. Probably QPSK. Normal DS2.0 upstream in most areas is 20mbit/sec. Did you say you were on legacy or overlay before the SH arrived? Maybe the CEO office's tinkering locked you onto one or the other and it's not been moved for 30mb? |
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qasdfdsaq haha I told you my area has serious issues :p so not even eurodocsis?
my upstream on old modem was QAM16. I assumed I would stay on the same docsis3 as I was on before, this is becoming a joke. |
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And do you have a retentions deal Tod?
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Status looks like it should be online. What do the config pages say? (Not got a SH so don't know exactly what they're called, but I mean the ones that tell you your upstream/downstream rate caps and so on) From what I gather of all the info in this thread 30mb *should* be using the exact same channel configuration as 50/100mb. And that certainly isn't it. |
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hee is more releveant logs sorry, the line I pasted was just for time sync.
Thu Feb 03 09:55:34 2011 Error (4) Missing BP Configuration Setting TLV Type: 17.8;CM-MAC=ggg;CMTS-MAC=ggg;CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0; Thu Feb 03 09:55:34 2011 Error (4) Missing BP Configuration Setting TLV Type: 17.9;CM-MAC=gggg;CMTS-MAC=ggg;CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0; Time Not Established Critical (3) DHCP FAILED - Requested Info not supported.;CM-MAC=ggg;CMTS-MAC=ggg;CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0; Time Not Established Critical (3) No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=ggg;CMTS-MAC=ggg;CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0; Time Not Established Warning (5) Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=gggg;CMTS-MAC=ggg;CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0; Time Not Established Warning (5) MDD message timeout;CM-MAC=ggg;CMTS-MAC=ggg;CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0; |
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