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Horrifying!:(

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Absolutely dreadful to hear that 7 lives have been lost.:(

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Airshows should be banned as I think there is a high % of crashes at them.

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You might as well ban any motorsports, motor vehicles, air transport, bicycles and even walking as all of them are a lot more dangerous to the population than airshows

:rolleyes:

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...le.csv/preview

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This is a terrible tragedy and my condolences go to all those involved.

However, if we set about banning stuff which isn't essential, there's an awful lot of far more dangerous pursuits we could start with.

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How many airshows actually happen in the UK?

I don't really think there is a high percentage of accidents.

RIP all those poor folk, but also if it had hit the other side of the road the death toll would have been far higher.

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I work for a company that repairs & overhauls components for various aircraft Sally 'B' & XH558 to name a few

Some of these aircraft are vital for people like me, I control the Technical Library with some 4,000 manuals.

These aircraft all all regulated and every last piece can be traced back to the date of manufacturer.

If you go down the 'Ban' route you might as well ground several major aircraft types.

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A real tragedy for a well run and popular air show. RIP those concerned.

Closing the A27 will gridlock the entire area as apart from the single carriageway Norfolk bridge to the south (A259) this is the only river crossing on the Adur for miles.

BTW the telephoto long distance coverage of the crash site is from Mill Hill. A superb vantage point to watch the show.

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Leading aerobatic teams are performing spectacular, complex stunts for thousands of spectators at the “MAKS-2015 International Aviation and Space Salon” air show in the city of Zhukovsky near Moscow. The show, which has brought together more than 700 companies from over 20 states, including Russia's leading arms and space corporations, kicked off on August 25 and runs through August 30.

Live link..http://www.rt.com/on-air/maks-2015-air-show/

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A BA 777 caught fire whilst on the runway at Las Vegas, all evacuated OK with only 14 injuries.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34193767

What does get me though is the idiots who thought it was a good idea to rescue their hand luggage :( Do they not realise that a few extra seconds could have cost not only their own lives but many others :(

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I have held my hand luggage on my lap during take off as I want to access as soon as I'm allowed.

I thought it might be a fan blade failure, they have kevlar lining in the of the cowl so any debit would be pulled into the engine causing the fire.

They where bloody luck as it would have had a fair bit of fuel on board

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Most airlines insist on hand baggage stowed above or below seats

Yep fan blade failure is high on my suspect list.

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This

Absolutely outrageous that idiots did this. :mad:

Prosecutions should follow.

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What annoys me is there a shed load of smoke on your side, then some muppet opens the emergency exit :rolleyes:

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Yes i agree, are there any videos of it yet showing the plane coming to an emergency stop?

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I haven't seen any yet, but no doubt some Darwin Award nominee probably used their phone in portrait mode rather then get out of dodge.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34661934

The twitter parody is hilarious for this lost blimp

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Final touchdown for XH558 yesterday :bigcry:

http://www.vulcantothesky.org/news/7...-of-XH558.html

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Seven taken to hospital after plane engine catches fire



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/34670742

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34687139

Russian Airliner down in Sinai

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It's doubtful that ISIS in that region have anything capable of taking out a plane at that altitude so I'm thinking a bomb on board is looking likely.

I'm wondering whether there were any journalists or other people that might have displeased the current Russian regime on board. :erm:

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South Sudan plane crash 'kills 40' near Juba airport.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-34719679

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Did they roll her? twice? If so I'm glad she showed her knickers ;):D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-34712344

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Rare for a plane to break up in air.

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Except when there's a bomb in the hold ...

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It though doesn;t take much for a plane to break up, just look at Concordski at the Paris air show all those years ago..

It is strange though to break up where it did (just forward of the tail section

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It had hit the tail whilst on the ground at some point in the past.

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Yep, same as the JAL flight that crashed but a lot of lessons were learnt from that crash.

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Four people dead as plane crashes in Somerset.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34822189

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Or in the main cabin, ISIS/IS/Daesh/Those psychotic medieval throwbacks has put pictures out showing what they claim was the bomb. Interestingly if true it was switch operated rather than timer / altimeter activated.

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Turkey shoots down Russian warplane on Syria border.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34907983

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The Last Flight of the Vulcan.

7:30pm, Sunday, 29 November 2015, Channel 4

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Cracking piece of TV really enjoyed it

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34972263

One of the reports came out today about the Air Asia 2014 crash I wonder who did the soldering??

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A guy a worked with on the program, he was doing NDT on the landing gear in a black walled room, plus the bit where they showed the companies that helped, including mine.

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A brand new A350 self-aborted its take off from New York with a load of travel journalists on board.

http://thepointsguy.com/2015/12/abor...t-from-the-us/

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Airlander 10 has just got EASA and CAA permits to fly. Great to see this Hybrid Aircraft back in the skys over the UK after so much messing around when the US military bought it out and then abandoned it.

We're supporting it via the Airlander club and Crowdcube :)

http://www.hybridairvehicles.com/

I'm watching closely for it's ground and air test dates as Cardington is only a few miles north from me so will be ready with the camera

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13 feared dead as helicopter crashes in North Sea off coast of Norway.

https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/...st-of-norway2/

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Another Egyptair flight looks like it's down. :(

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-36309492

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An Airbus A400M flew over where I live about 9am this morning. The one time I never had my phone with me to take a pic. It was descending into Broughton

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It was ZM403, one of the first delivered. Did a TOGA, not a full-stop landing.

They're certainly impressive beasts.

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Thanks for that info, it certainly was impressive, I`m only about 6 miles from Broughton, so it was really low over here

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RAF certainly ramping up their hours lately. Just had a Tornado 3-ship pass overhead, not often you see that. ILS into Liverpool and North up the river.

Shame I'm not flying today as it would have been nice to have that traffic in sight ;)

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There was a Lancaster as well. I wonder if it was something to do with the Queens birthday.

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Haven't heard anything about a Lancaster through the local zones.

However: Soon after the Tonka show one of the Brize Norton C130J's did an approach via the Isle of Man

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There was a Lancaster going over Skegness apparently yesterday.

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Monarch Airlines placed into administration.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...administration

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Original Story

:Yikes:

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Inside a Concorde.. soon on show near Bristol

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-4152...oncorde-to-fly

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You can’t beat a good crosswind landing. Hours of fun to be had on YouTube.

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There's an Open Skies inspection flight being conducted tomorrow by a Russian Air Force Antonov AN30.

Route will be from Chester heading north up the coast to Whitehaven then turn east to Scarborough via Harrogate (wonder why ;))

It will then route South West back over the Pennines to Crewe and head back to Brize Norton. These flights are usually at about 4-5,000ft so it should be possible to get a decent blimp at it if you're anywhere along the way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_Open_Skies

...forgot to mention. Due over Chester at about 10:50, Scarborough at Midday and Crewe at 12:30

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From the NOTAM for the open skies flight:

WP1 514609N 0013858W 1021 4,000FT BROADWELL
WP2 515528N 0021139W 1028 FL040 GLOUCESTER
WP3 522807N 0021538W 1038 FL040 STOURBRIDGE
WP4 530838N 0024908W 1053 FL040 CHESTER
WP5 531920N 0030107W 1057 4,000FT BIRKENHEAD
WP6 533748N 0025020W 1103 4,000FT BURSCOUGH
WP7 534914N 0024750W 1107 4,000FT PRESTON
WP8 540920N 0031820W 1115 FL040 BARROW
WP9 541709N 0032305W 1118 FL040 BOOTLE
WP10 542635N 0033049W 1121 FL040 WHITEHAVEN
WP11 540140N 0014633W 1142 FL050 BLUBBERHOUSES
WP12 535930N 0013703W 1144 FL040 HARROGATE
WP13 541701N 0002236W 1159 FL040 SCARBOROUGH
WP14 533402N 0015049W 1220 FL040 HOLMFIRTH
WP15 533201N 0020120W 1222 4,000FT ASHTON UNDER LYME
WP16 532443N 0023858W 1230 4,000FT WARRINGTON
WP17 530521N 0022954W 1236 4,000FT CREWE
WP18 522327N 0015818W 1251 FL040 FRANKLEY RESEVOIR
WP19 514500N 0013502W 1304 4,000FT BRIZE NORTON

....we're keeping an eye on you Ivan (AWACS in attendance ;))

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Antonov AN-22 on the way into Prestwick tonight. Currently over the Lakes about 25 minutes out.

You don't see these bad boys out very often.

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AN-22 on it's way back into Manchester from Gander. ETA 30 minutes

https://www.flightradar24.com/ADB2321/fc00df9

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Click red link for full story and pictures. Looks nasty. :(

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Couple of interesting aircraft into Liverpool tonight:

2x Antonov AN-12 of Ukraine Air Alliance

From Siauliai (Lithuania) ETA 21:00

From Gothenburg: ETA 21:30

Heads up on the Wirral as we're on Runway 09 tonight

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The Boeing 787 Dreamliner of the Emirates airline is becoming a common sight as it does it's low and slow pass over Cardiff city on its way to Cardiff Wales Airport.

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One of our new F35s giving it the bifters over the Llandegla moors in North Wales

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Wonder if Swanwick have it on primary radar ;)

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Farewell to the Tornado... flypasts schedules..

http://www.deeside.com/flintshire-se...-the-fast-jet/

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2019/02/1.jpeg

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This is the 20th, covers St Athan & Cardiff airport.

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2019/02/16.jpg

And the 21st.

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2019/02/17.jpg
It will be a 3 ship flypast.

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Tomorrow will be the final 9 ship flypast of RAF Cranwell then a bit of a display on return to RAF Marham.

Here's the plan for the Marham return.

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Looks like the Tonkas are having a final bit of fun. 2 ship just flew over my house on the LPL 27 approach and bugged out to the South over North Wales. Next stop Wolverhampton so keep your eyes peeled if in the area.

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MoD appear to be testing that new Taranis drone again in Cardigan Bay just off Aberporth. (They have activated the danger area NOTAM).

Keep an eye out in the local papers for UFO sightings ;)

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Nice piece of kit.

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And in the interests of aviation safety at was even using mode s and maybe even mode c.... Unlike the Russkies!

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Also spotted today is one of the the Saudi Tornado IDS which are operating out of Warton. Turned South down Liverpool Bay, over Snowdonia and had a quick blast through the Mach Loop. They're working on integrating that Damocles targeting pod they've purchased from the French.

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Some of you probably know this already but the Farnborough International Airshow Public days are no more.
It's not surprising really seeing how terrible 2018's display was.

With the Shoreham crash a few years back and the additional new housing built nearby they've played it safe and now pulling the plug.


It will continue as a trade only show with apparently one public day on the friday but it won't be the same.


I'm hoping Paris keeps going and that they atleast have a better flying display for the public.

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Wow Air goes into Administration. All Flights Cancelled.


https://wowair.com/travel-alert/

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Russian Sukhoi Superjet passenger plane with 78 aboard crash lands and explodes in fireball at Moscow's main international airport. :(

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What made it worse where the idiots who took their hand luggage.

Personally these (Expletives) should be procecuted, as there actions could have cost lives.

---------- Post added at 18:05 ---------- Previous post was at 18:03 ----------

Also lightning is highly unlikely to be a direct cause of the crash.

If you watch the news they had another view and you see the plane do what looks like a tail stike.

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Totally agree with the hand luggage comment.

Utterly sick of morons with their sense of entitlement regarding carry on luggage.

Been seen so many times now where these idiots think their personal stuff is more important than someone's life. :mad::td:

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There is video out there (too big to post in here) that shows that the aircraft touched down, went back up a few feet then slammed down onto the runway with the tail hitting first. Only then did the fire start, presumably when fuel tanks were ruptured.

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Planes are not designed to land with take off weight.

This plane landed above its max landing weight. The book allows this in emergency situations but then the plane would need a heavy landing check.

It looks like the plane bounced and the 2nd impact drove the MLG thought its mounting uptown the tank above which cause fuel to pour into the engine which caused the fire.

It's a miracle that anyone survived., and goes to show the next time you flight listen to the crews safely talk. It might save your live as people panic and treat the planes seat belt like a car and try and jab at a non existent button.

Respect to the crew staying until the last seconds and in one case to long to save their passengers.

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Makes me wonder if there should be an automatic lock that could be applied by cabin crew that locks all overhead storage so no one could start getting their possessions out and they'd have to just get on with evacuation of the aircraft.
It could definitely save lives.

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N341A - The only flying C-41A (military liaison variant of DC3) left in the world currently stopping at Keflavik en-route for Daks over Normandy next week.

Presumably night stopping so it should fly through UK airspace tomorrow.

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I missed the A380s flying from Stansted to Baku.

There might be some tonight going to Madrid full of Spurs fans.

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We had this smoky old Soviet crate in again this evening. Had the camera handy this time. Unfortunately the sky was dull as ditchwater.

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We get a few in to East Midlands including the big Antonov 124's.

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There were 2x AN12s in yesterday and there have been another two already this morning. They're chartered in by Wynne Aviation who have been working with Jaguar Land Rover to ship in parts. Last year there was also a carrier operating out of the Isle of Man with a leased AN-26.

We haven't had the Ruslan in at LJLA for a few years. It used to come in at Christmas to pick up charity boxes. I did pop over to see the Libyan one which came into Manchester a while ago to pick up some construction equipment for Darfur.

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Hopefully the 225 will make an appearance sometime at EMA. Last time I saw that fly was in 2015.

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A400 going circuits over North West Leeds

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Spitfire round the world trip.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...-a4193791.html

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As far as I understand it there’s no such thing as “an original Silver Spitfire”, certainly not in the way the Evening Standard seems to understand it. So far as I can tell this was just a regular Mk.ix plane built during the war alongside a lot of others and presumably painted up the same as them. It’s just that the restorers have chosen to restore and style it in this way.

Or have I got it totally wrong? Was “The Silver Spitfire” a thing in 1943?

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Pretty much spot on. It was a normal mk ix originally with 118sqn painted up with the same livery as any other aircraft in the unit.

This aircraft is one of the best airworthy examples in terms of original spec which is where the writer of the piece seems to have misinterpreted their research.

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My thoughts exactly;)

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My thoughts are, this is a really weird thread....

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One pager containing everything you need to know about the Spitfire but were afraid to ask. Exam questions will follow.

https://www.baesystems.com/en/herita...arine-spitfire

The survivors list is out of date

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I have to say that along with the sounds of lawnmowers and strimmers around here is the sound of the Spitfire from the local Solent Airfield on it's daily runs around Lee-on-Solent and the Isle of Wight for paying passengers. I wish I had a spare £1500 to take a trip.

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Sukhoi Su-35S at the air show MAKS 2019

https://reddit.app.link/wnu26QXtjZ

Behold, the Su-35S ignoring the laws of physics: “hanging in the air the way a brick doesn’t”.

h/t @cstross (Charlie Stross)

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9.00 tonight ITV RAF pilots at top gun training in the states.

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3x B2s arrived at Fairford last night. Callsigns Death11, 12 and 13

Not due on any exercise or rotation so it appears to be a case of moving the big stick closer to the naughty step.

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So we've had the terrible end of Thomas Cook as seen in THIS thread.


Now yet another airline has suspended flights and looks set for the same fate...Currently temporarily but who knows in thiese turbulent times.



https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...-servi-461035/

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Unusual site yesterday morning in west Kent... at high altitude there were 5 fighters escorting a much larger aircraft (V formation) ... flying south-south east.

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You probably saw the 366th Fighter Wing F-15s which departed Lakenheath yesterday morning (although there were supposed to have been 6 leaving). Larger aircraft was probably a KC-135 tanker.

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ZJ783 up from Hereford ;) (one of the SAS "Blue Thunder choppers) just did a couple of ILS practice approaches into Liverpool.

Always keep a camera battery charged - d'oh!

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The idiots on my Towns Moaning FaceBook page are contanstly going on about the flights into Stansted.

Well I have a Flight Radar app and most are Cargo, some I belive to be flight for pilots to keeps their flight hours up and keep their certification

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There have been quite a few Ryanair and Easyjet positioning flights over the past few days. Possibly a sign that they are preparing to begin operations again soon.

We still have Loganair flights in from the Isle of Man every day and the Wideroe flight from Bergen which I guess has been ferrying oil and gas industry workers.

Lots of RAF and AAC training activity as well taking advantage of clear skies.

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Seems to be heading towards Manchester now (city centre, not airport)