Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Reading, Winnersh still tbc. Is that because of high users numbers?

Camberley/Farnborough down the road was one of the first.

Oh well my 4mb is doing well, good pings (not as good as NTL times) and topped out downloads.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Any parts of M27 area been upgraded yet?

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

I've recently been upgraded to a 10 Meg connection but I am unable to get anything greater than around 5.6 Megs download speed irrespective of whatever I try. My internet connection is via USB rather than Ethernet .. could that be the reason and if not that then what else could it be ? For info, I don't have p2p software running and I've tried it with my firewall switched off too.


Downstream Lock : Locked
Downstream Channel Id : 6
Downstream Frequency : 586750000 Hz
Downstream Modulation : QAM256
Downstream Symbol Rate : 6952 Ksym/sec
Downstream Interleave Depth : taps12Increment17
Downstream Receive Power Level : 3.9 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 40.8 dB

Network Access : Allowed
Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 10240000
Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 512000
Maximum Upstream Channel Burst : 1600
Maximum Number of CPEs : 1
Modem Capability : Concatenation Enabled, Fragametation Enabled, PHS Disabled

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

:welcome:

It is always worth trying ethernet, rather than USB, for connection to the internet, in my opinion.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

It's because your connecting through USB. USB is only capable of speeds up to 6 Mb/s. You need to connect via Ethernet and it should deliver the 10 Mb/s.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Is it just a case of powering down and changing the connection or is there something else I need to do in terms of configuration ?

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Hey all just new to this forum im on bb size L still waiting for my upgrade near edinburgh :shocked: wen all the rest of scotland seems to be done we're TBC

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yes if your pc has an ethernet port

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Or if it hasn't, you just need to install a NIC Card, probably PCI, which are usually around £10. Though you shouldn't have to as most new computers have an integrated ethernet port.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Not noticed any difference here in sunny (that's a lie by the way :)) ellesmere port.:D

Must try a speed test this evening................................. ;)

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

I'm in Birkenhead and it's on just below 5mb, I will see if it gets any better tonight.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

lol!:D At home now, just ran a speed test from this site and getting just over 9Mb speed....I never even noticed the increase from 4MB :D

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Birkenhead here too - whistling along at 9.3mb for the third day running. Surely this can't last??:D:D:D

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

no mine is on 2mb tonight!

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

any1 know what exactly went on in edinburgh??? coz some people r saying they done the upgrade but it failed any idea if thats true and if so wot happend???:shocked:

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

SK5, Stockport... the neglected part of town that sees upgrades LAST... why? Ooo.. the posh areas have theirs!!

Here's a tip guys - this area is the *least congested!!*

It's like waking up expecting loads of pressies on Christmas day to find that all you've got is pretty much what you went to bed with...

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Well I don't know what's happening with the speedtests lately, getting consistently poor results:

CF Site Speed Test:
Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:47:27 GMT

Test 1: 1024K took 3375 ms = 303.4 KB/sec, approx 2500 Kbps, 2.44 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 3225 ms = 317.5 KB/sec, approx 2616 Kbps, 2.55 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 3224 ms = 317.6 KB/sec, approx 2617 Kbps, 2.56 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 11947 ms = 171.4 KB/sec, approx 1412 Kbps, 1.38 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 2286 Kbps, 2.23 Mbps

Dan Elwell's gives: 4225Kb/s

However a 60MB multi-thread download from VM Newsgroups came down at a fairly consistent 10Mb/s.

All completed within the last 10 mins.

So it proves the 10Mb connection can and is doing it!

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

yea most speed test site are not accurate but most say to try downloading 2 files off gamefiles.virginmedia.com then add the two speeds togethere then times by 8 then u got ur download rate

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i changed from the size m because the website the vigin media website i might add said 10mb lol even though i only get 4mb ny1 else getting bored waiting lol or ny1 else from other areas getting bored waiting for thier upgrade and still got TBC???

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

This must be their slowest roll out yet? I seem to remember the other upgrades took a couple of months?

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

YEA PROBS COZ THE LAST ROLL-out was ex-ntl nd ex-telewest but now they turned 2 virgin-media it will b slower (just a personal opinoin )

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Still waiting for upgrade In A-U-L Gtr manchester VM are slow That's Ironic so's there Broadband..................:p:

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Just ran another test this morning and everything seems tickety-boo ! :D

Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:54:29 UTC

Test 1: 1024K took 864 ms = 1185.2 KB/sec, approx 9766 Kbps, 9.54Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 851 ms = 1203.3 KB/sec, approx 9915 Kbps, 9.68Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 855 ms = 1197.7 KB/sec, approx 9869 Kbps, 9.64Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 1718 ms = 1192.1 KB/sec approx 9823 Kbps 9.59Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 9843 Kbps, 9.61 Mbps

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Test 1: 1024K took 875 ms = 1170.3 KB/sec, approx 9643 Kbps, 9.42 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 859 ms = 1192.1 KB/sec, approx 9823 Kbps, 9.59 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 859 ms = 1192.1 KB/sec, approx 9823 Kbps, 9.59 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 1719 ms = 1191.4 KB/sec, approx 9817 Kbps, 9.59 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 9777 Kbps, 9.55 Mbps

wow at last

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Well it's nearly the end of july and they are nowhere near completing the areas that have been given that date. :confused:

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Still no news on nottingham :(

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

But past upgrades were always followed by an extended period of cr@p service due to congestion..
This time they are trying to upgrade the areas before they uplift the speed so that people get the 10Mb/s speed.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Was just thinking that myself - No sign of the upgrade in Harrogate HG1.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

It's kind of surprising that they've not updated the schedule page since the 8th of july.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

I'm in SK12 Poynton and still stuck on 3.9 mb/s

Come on bring it on Virgin!:mad:

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Well, I'm now reading Stockport as August instead of July, and expanding that further, I would expect the upgrade stuff all done by September, but in reality, probably won't see it until October and it'll be November before I notice and with that said, it'll probably all happen on Christmas day... if not on New Years day and we'll be halfway through January and they'll really mean February and...

yeah... I've somehow stopped expecting the 4-10 meg upgrade happening overnight :LOL:
(overnight - which would mean the 'next day' which would really mean the day after next, in which case you might aswell say 'weekend' - which they don't really work (do they?) and that'll mean the following Monday or sometime next week... )

:D

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

still nothing new in Cosham area

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Well I am getting some funny speeds for the Oxford area (particularly during traffic shaping hours)
:erm:

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

If you are a Virgin Media customer then the best speedtest is from the link below which is from a dedicated server within the Virgin Media network, hence the is no www. before the address.

Have you tried going to this link to check your speeds http://gamefiles.virginmedia.com/

click on blueyondergames>demos>then click on at least 2 large files and save them to your desktop, and then wait a couple of minutes then write down the transfer rates on the files that are running> times them by 8 and you will get a truer download speed.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Upgrade page has just been updated. Lots of new areas given date of july.

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html.../schedule.html

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

steady 1.2Mbps from microsft.com is not wishful thinking man, we have had the upgrade.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Some areas may have TBC written beside them, however the area may have recieved the upgrade. There have been a lot of instances were that's happened. It's all just about Virgin having to confirm it on their site.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Still no upgrade on my Baguley. And still TBC. It's going to be last i just know it. :D

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

I've almost given up hope that it is actually going to get done :erm:

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

I re-read my last post and feel that it's becoming the reality around here... 7 days to August (and our holiday to the fully upgraded NE (of all the ironies)) - we'd best be on 10meg by the time we get back! :D

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Im in Bagluey - and I am now 10mb!! AT LAST - yippeeeeee!!!!!

"Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 10240000"

PS - jusr realised I didnt have to boot my modem either?

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

May I ask where you live as the Baguley server covers a really large area?

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Sure. Near the Baguley Tesco Extra & if you know the area well, the roundabout at Brooklands Rd (Timperley).

Must say (and this really hurts) but... thank VM, I do rather like it :)

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Ooo.. *hand up* I know _exactly_ where you mean! Taking that into account, I'd estimate (if they're working that way round and not being a-holes and going th'other way round) Stockport should be next... (taking the Sharston/Wythenshawe route)

This could, however, turn into Mornington Crescent... :LOL:

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Kings Cross.... the classic opening gambit
(sorry - couldnt help it)

I'll keep my fingers crossed for ya CJ

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Yes I know the area well. I'm over in Urmston so if they are working outwards from the server I may just get the upgrade this month. It will be interesting to see which of our areas gets done next.....:)

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Anyone know when Bristol North is going to be upgraded from 4mb -> 10mb?

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

July according to the link below, so supposedly in the next 7 days.

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html.../schedule.html

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

I saw that and it specificially mentioned:

This suggests that this does not include Bristol City itself, which I live in. Do you think that's the case or that the BS7 area will be included?

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

That has to be you as the are no other regions around you.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Well i've finally given Virgin their notice. I was paying £25.00 per month for 4mb and phone line.

Just ordered new BT line, ow £124.99 but cost split over next six months.

Once line installed i will be ordering up to 16mb o2 broadband £10.00 per month existing O2 customer - UK Technical support via 0800 number. £10.50 to BT for online billing - line rental

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Let's hope so, I'm sure I'll report back if it doesn't happen!

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

You do know that if you've got a Virgin phone you can get free technical support via 151. Also, I hope that you get the full 16MB. Unfortunately in my area I can only get 2MB over ADSL, so I'm sticking with Virgin.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

OMG... I just realised.. one route will have to pass through Cheadle & Gatley....!!

Whereas the other route would be Timperley, Sharston and straight on to Stockport... bypassing the Cheadle area because of the airport :LOL:

Using the standard rules of Morning Crescent, Cheadle can only be bypassed by staying on the M60 and flooring the accelerator...

I'm playing Northenden as my next gambit...

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

So where does that leave Warrington?

I wonder what the chances are of being able to get money back from VM as some people have been paying £25.00 for 10Mb, and I am left paying £25.00 for 4Mb...

... versus it turning out that Doctor Who is not fiction but a documentary :D

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Apart from the fact that it's a FREE upgrade which they are not obliged to provide you mean?

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Pbryanw "free technical support" surely you mean "scripted, limited conversation"

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

I hope they aren't upgrading baguley closest to furthest away. Have a feeling Stoke is the furthest away. :D

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

As far as I can see the outer limits of our area are Birkenhead (approx 43 miles), Macclesfield (approx 16 miles), Runcorn (approx 25 miles), Stoke (approx 48 miles), Warrington (approx 18 miles), Brombrough (approx 28 miles), with Stretford, Wilmslow and Withington being only a stones throw away.

So by a short straw it appears that you beat your nearest rival of Birkenhead. :D

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Yes, I mean No (I think). On the rare times I've used Virgin's technical phone support, I've found they've been good for solving simple problems. Not so good for anything more complex but I've always found them helpful. Could be better but at least it's free now, if you've got a Virgin phone package.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Noooooooooooooo. :D

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Only from Offshore you mean;)

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

No sign of the upgrade here in Birmingham yet. In fact my service has dropped to 1meg over the last day. (yeh, done all the resets, reboots, etc, etc)

UPDATED - it's down to 768 - arghhhhhhhh - what's happening

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

I was on 2mb but it wasnt enough for 2 ppl. Upgraded via online account it said 4mb but when I clicked finished on the site the router instantly rebooted and I was downloading at 1.2MB/s :D

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

You mean 1.2MB/s which is 10Mb???

Kymmy

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Yes sorry:angel:

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Manchester area Oldham, Bolton, Burnley, Rochdale, Blackburn, Salford, Stockport July

it's been delayed folks.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

And here in Birkenhead, we have been savouring the delights of 10mb for almost two weeks now! :cool:

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Delayed as in not July anymore? Or delayed as in the end of July? :)

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

it'll be a couple of weeks before it's completed.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Ah right, I thought you were going to say it had been pushed back another few months! I read earlier in this thread that it was going to be in May, and it seems that that was a date which had been pushed back from earlier in the year!

Rep++

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

I'd have thought that Manchester would've been done after the first area (Preston) had been done... what they're doing doesn't make any sense at all - and now we have to wait even longer?? What did Manchester (and the most part of the NW) ever do to deserve the 'get to the back of the queue' treatment? And what did Preston do to be one of the first areas for the 10meg rollout?
I'm sat here absolutely mystified now............................................... ..........

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

it doesn't work like that. network capacity plays a big part as does bandwidth provisioning to the uBr.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Anyone could say that who is in the last areas to be done, but as the saying goes someone has to be first as someone has to be last. As long as we get the upgrade at some point why worry, after all it is free. I am on the Cosham ubr & still waiting so its a case of i haven't been done yet either, just be patient.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

My point (with tongue in cheek :)) is that my bill says I am on broadband L, and the web site ways broadband L is up to 10Mb, but my modem still says I am on up top 4Mb.

And before people point it out, I realise that anything less than 10Mb is covered by the up 10Mb claim. It's just that, at the moment, I have got a less chance of getting more than 10Mb than we have of seeing another HD channel appearing :D.

So who's opening a book on which will be the last area to be upgraded?

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Until your area is updated you are only on 4mb, also with lower stm. I am in the same situation myself, although only for a few more days till the end of the month. As i said in my last post they have to start somewhere & finish somewhere.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

nobody. ;)

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

When will you realise that we are paying VM for their services and these upgrades are a part of that???

Its not free whatsoever.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

So what you are saying is that they are obliged to provide these upgrades?

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

I don't think there is anything in the terms and conditions of the service which says we are entitled to upgrades.

The way I see it is that we are paying £25 a month for a 4Mb connection. Virgin Media are upgrading that to a 10Mb connection, but still charging us the same £25 a month.
As it is not costing us any more (we'd be paying the £25 a month anyway), in my eyes it is a free upgrade for the consumer (it's not free for Virgin Media however, who have probably spent a fair bit on this... if not on upgraded equipment, then the staff to carry out the changes!)

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

When Sky Basics disappeared, didn't VM say that we were paying for a TV package (e.g. TV M, TV L, etc) rather than any specific channels?

Doesn't the same apply here? We're paying for the BB L package - it's just that the package is different for different people.

Using Virgin's own previous logic we're all paying for the same thing but being given different services for the same money.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

I've always thought the upgrades were the only way long term customers got a reward for being loyal..but what do I know?

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

On the face of things £25 for a 4mb line doesnt really stand up to the competition. I see the upgrades as a must for VM to keep face in the eyes of their competitors and more importantly, their customers.

Stuff 'small print' its a matter of decency!

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

I don't see these upgrades as free. I think they are obliged to do so, because they know and everyone else knows that £25 a month for a 4Mb connection just isn't worth it. If you look at other ISP's they provide an up to 8Mb service which is far cheaper than what we pay for a 4Mb connection. It's basically their way of keeping there packages competitive.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

And the beauty of this conversation is that everyone wins.

Those who think that the upgrade is part of the service that VM are "obliged" to provide, get the upgrade (when their area is done).

Those who think it's a free upgrade, get their free upgrade (subject to the above caveat).

Next subject - how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? ;)

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/07/14.png

? is that an upgrade ?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/07/15.png

OK works better with speedtest to UK server but DSL reports is valid for USA

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/07/16.png

speedtest to USA gives same result as DSL reports

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

why california?

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

still waiting for the upgrade here in gosport :(

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Because its sunny? :dunce:

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

why not ?

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

The answer, therefore, is that an infinity of angels can be located on the head of a pin, since they do not occupy any space there.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Thank you, Dorothy L Sayer - however, it is also theorised that it is dependent on the assumed mass of the angels, with a maximum number of 8.6766*10exp49 angels at the critical angel mass (3.8807*10exp-34 kg); while this approach does produce an upper bound on the possible density of angels, it is based on the Thomist assumption of non-overlap.
Since angels can be presumed to obey quantum rules when packed at quantum gravity densities, the uncertainty relation will cause their wave functions to overlap significantly even if there is a strong degeneracy pressure. If the non-overlap assumption is relaxed, this approach cannot derive an upper bound.

Full explanation

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

This thread is seriously in danger of becoming intellectual. Off topic, but seriously intellectual. :D

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

no upgrade yet in York

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

please refer to the first post made, and of course... :notopic:

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Thank you Commander Data ;)

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Same situation in Harrogate as we are listed alongside Leeds.

I wouldnt at all be surprised if we get listed as delayed as with only 2 days left theres a stong chance we wont see any change.

Was told be a techbloke in his VM van locally that the network is a bit of a mess round here.:sleep:

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

well, according to there "even faster" webpage they have 2 days to complete 9 upgrade areas. Who is feeling optimistic? :)

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

Sounds like a stupid question but how can you tell what area you're in? The Where's my Upgrade page doesn't list my area, Waltham Forest.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

http://tools.virginmedia.com/
After 'client host name' i think the second bit after the - is the UBR your on

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

That is correct about the UBR.

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 

cpc0-newl0-0-0-cust0.foo.cable.ntl.com

that's the uBr :)