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WTF????????

I can only think of Schmeichel (sp?) and possibly Henry (did Juve win the European Cup while he was there?). Other than that, I thought maybe Pires, although I have no idea what he did before Arsenal!

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Blanc ?
Anelka ?
Viera ?

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Yep Schmeichel, nope not Henry, the other one I have is Anelka

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Blanc ? Nope
Anelka ? Yep
Viera ? Nope

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Deschamps? (Bearing in mind that I've got no idea when he left Chelsea :) )

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Played against Arsenal in the first final and for them in the 2nd. :)

He even scored for Arsenal in the 2nd final .... now who was that against.... ;)

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Les Sealey?

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Pat Jennings?

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would have to go for Desailly.

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Anelka isn't in the France side at the moment and don't think he was in the squad at Euro 2000 either.. So it looks like just Schmeiical and Desailly unless i'm completely wrong on Anelka

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Out of curiosity, and I don't have the answer to this, who is the most decorated current player at the moment?

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if you mean still playing then would have to be Ryan Giggs, 8 Prem titles, 1 European Cup, 1 League Cup, 3 FA Cups, 1 Inter-Continental Cup,

think if you mean retired as well then I think it's Phil Neil from Liverpool

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Much more important:

1) Can football or at least sport have its own forum or sub-forum? one topic is not enough because conversations just get replaced and some times people can come on and we have gone though 2 topics already.

2) Ranieri is going.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ue/3683479.stm

Its a shame, hes a good manager and the fans want him so what on earth are they doing?! But much more interestingly he says he knows whos taking over "just like you" the only person that keeps getting mentioned is Sven so it looks like he is off the chelsea.
So any other ideas, and who should be the next England manager?

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Correct !!!!!!!!!!

I remember that final only too well, I was still running around the room after united equalised, then Arsenal got their third grrrrrrrrrrr

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I think one thread is working well at the moment.

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Anelka was in the French side in 2000

Desailly hasn't won the premiership

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We have about 3 topics on the go here

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he might be talking about Mourinho of Porto or even someone like Lippi.. Doesn't have to be Sven.. Don't think Sven is that great a manager really... he just reads the Sun looks at who the fans think should play for England then picks then.. He was the man who picked Rickets, Powell, Vassell, Heskey, Phil Neville :mad: and at the WC Sinclair wasn't good enough to make the squad and then played in nearly all the games :Yikes:

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2 very good points and shows what i know about football :dunce: . have misplaced the fag packet that's got all i know about football written on it

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I think it is him because of the comment that people know who it is the only person mentioned is sven

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if it is Sven i think that can only be good for England.. although can't really think of any other decent managers we could put in his place

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Can anyone tell me what Sven has done for your national team which has earned him such acolades as to have him (allegedly) in the running for the Chelsea job?

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I think hes done alright, we only get beaten by brazil in the WC and getting into europe wasn't too tricky. We are not that good a team to win the WC but he take us as far as we could go.

We should give our managers more time

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After all the hoo-ha of the last few weeks, I think that Sven knows he would get absolutely blasted if he now took the Chelsea job. I know that there will be various options and clauses in his new England contract but, bearing in mind his misgivings over the way he has been treated by the English media (rightly or wrongly †“ you make your own decision on that ;) ), I wouldnââ‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t be surprised if he left England if he resigns.

The most recent suggestions for the Chelsea job have been Mourinho (untested outside Portugal), Lippi (very successful), and Trappatoni (if he leaves the Italy job).

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But you were knocked out of the World Cup at the usual point, and qualification for the Euro tournament is something England have never really had a problem doing.

So really, he hasn't done any better or worse than, say your last 10 managers.

(Apart from Graham Taylor).

So why is Sven considered to be so special? When SAF was thinking of retiring, Sven's name was thrown in to the ring. But why? He has yet to prove himself to be anything special at international level.

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i don't think Sven has done anything at all.. He's just basically picked the same players we had before.. we haven't got any more drive, direction or technical skill than we had before he took over.. just look at how many rubbish performances we have put in.. Australia and Sweden to name a few.. yes these were friendlies but we should still be beating those sides..

Look at the rubbish players he picks Phil Neville, Heskey and Rickets being prime examples.. he just basically reads the Sun and then picks the team say think we should play with..

If we were playing better football or doing new things at set plays etc it would e ok but we just the same as when he started..

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In all fairness Russ, Svens record in competitive matches is still very good (I think that the World Cup quarter final is still the only defeat). However, as an England fan, I have to be honest and say that I wish he would stop faffing about with the team in friendlies †“ itâ₠¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s a good idea to use new players / those on the periphery of the team but, other than that stick to the core team and work around those players he knows he will want in Championships etc (barring injury etc)

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You're missing the point - I'm not saying he's a rubbish manager. I'm asking if he's done anything which marks him out amongst other top-level managers. When the Man United job looked like it was available, his name was pushed forward. He's constantly linked with Chelsea - I'm asking why, seeing as he has not done anything which makes him any better than any other manager of that level.

Consider his record against previous England managers - I see nothing which stands out.

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yes agree about faffing about in friendlies.. the sweden match was a prime example.. i knew as soon as i say the team that we would play sh*te.. everyone had been talking about playing Thomspon on the left and as usual Sven went with what press said but he played him in a team with about 8 other changes as well so he couldn't see how well he would perform with the proper side that would start in Euro 04..

I can only name one player he has actually brought into the England side who wasn't there when it took over and is Lampard and that's more because he's a classy player than anything Sven has done..

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A manager needs a good team. I think he has a good record considering the team and he has past experience at lazio and such

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Wayne rooney?

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Sorry mate - just proves I am a :dunce: !

I seem to remember that he has been moderately successful, both in Sweden and Italy. However, I do see your point - I think that the reason that he's continually linked with the top jobs like Man U and Chelsea is because he is quite experienced at that level (ie clubs who are consistently challenging for honours) and because, in the grand scheme of things, I think some clubs and the media believe that it would be easier to entice Sven away from the England job (particularly as his contract was due to expire after Euro 2004 and he has made it clear that he doesnââ‚ƚ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t like not being involved in day to day management) than somebody like Martin Oâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢Neill from Celtic.

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But is his record any better or worse than previous managers? And I'm not talking about club level :)

I'd say that's probably the only reason - his England record is nothing outstanding.

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I can't understand Chelsea seemingly wanting to get rid of Claudio Ranieri, he is one of the few gentlemen left in the game, plus Chelsea are doing quite well.
Very strange indeed !!!!

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We have certainly got a better match record. Apart from that hes only been in one cup with england and that was the World cup in which we did reasonably well. Sure we didn't win but we lost to brazil (and put up a good performance) who are a great side.

Top 8 finish is also fair enough considering our team we are certainly not in the top 5 of the world. For a first try he did very well. We need consistency in our managers so I think we should stick with him until the next world cup

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But don't England always go out at the quarter-final stage, assuming they get there?

He took your team one step further.

Not quite what I'd call outstanding. And a better match record? Considering the quality of opposition, I'd say the only memorable game was against a below-par Germany in 2001.

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Lets see how he does in euro 2004.

But I think that our performances have been good so far.

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:banghead: :D

I'm not saying he hasn't been good!!!

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Well theres nothing that makes him 'stand out' other than his experience at club level. But I fail to see your point about him 'not standing out at england' because thats not why he is in the frame

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My point exactly!!

:rolleyes: :D :angel:

Keep up dear boy....post 1133, my second point.....

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Well I Agree Why Are We Auguring

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We're not...you're currently agreeing with me :D

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oh no i dont :)

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that what Russ is saying is that he can't understand why Sven has been so hyped up (sorry if I'm wrong Russ, but that's the way I'm reading it :) ).

At the end of the day, I think it boils down to the fact that, when Keegan started the World Cup campaign, England were absolutely woeful, and Sven has been credited (rightly or wrongly) with turning results around (again, purely in competitive matches).

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1989-90 For the first time in 68 years three brothers played together in the same league side.

Who were they ?

and what is the name of the club ?

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got to be the wallace brothers .. can't name them all though

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Correct.

And the club ?

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Southampton?

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Correct !!!!!!!!

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yay! whats my prize. A oven? trip for two? what?

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Who where the first team to play at Anfield?

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it looks like the villa will get 4th place by overtaking the scousers......they are playing better so good look to them as they have drastically improved all season , the question is if villa only manage 5th will deadly doug sack o'lordy just like he got the sack from leeds for only managing 5th place?......i doubt it
leeds will do a wednesday and slide another division before they sort themselves out......i wonder if fergie will buy viduka? hope not as its defenders we need before next season to get our trophy back from its one year loan to the gooners

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someone got to reply southampton before i had the chance :(

Everton played there but moved out when Goodison Park was built.. As the stadium was empty a team called Liverpool was created to play there

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Spot on.:tu:

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Who were responsible for Man United's kit in its present form and colours?

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Correct again Damien, you have won a trip for two in an oven.

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beethoven is !!!!! :) he is the one responsible

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The accountants.:D

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NB answer this question quick or your answer will be out of date... :pp

( PS this applies to all Prem clubs ;) )

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woohoo someplace warm!

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Nike ?

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Becks shock
David Beckham has told Manchester United he would go back to the club if Alex Ferguson went. The United board contacted Becks about a sensational return this summer. And the England skipperââ‚à ‚¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s advisers confirmed he is ready to say yes †â€ÂÂ� but only if Fergie is not boss. Beckham, 29, was forced out of Old Trafford after a bust-up with Ferguson last season and joined Spanish giants Real Madrid for £25mill ion. But Beckham is now resigned to leaving Spain this summer after a season dogged by problems in his private life. He wants to return to England and be with his family and believes it is just a matter of choosing the right Premiership club. Becks still has a house near Manchester and keeps in touch with pal, United full-back Gary Neville.
Vikki Orvice, The Sun

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I think tonight could be when Arsenal lose their unbeaten record....


Portsmouth 1 - 0 Arsenal .... so far. :shocked:

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come on portsmouth!!!!!!! :D :D :D

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Ooooops spoke too soon. :dunce:

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Deportivo 0 - Porto 1 with 20 mins to go, could the team that Man Utd actually beat, get through to the final?

NB. The Russian linesman ( or whatever daft name they call them now ) who disallowed the perfectly legitimate goal from Paul Scholes against Porto has been removed from the list of officials for European Championships.

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jose ' im the faliure of the season' reyes scored :erm: :D

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A few FA Cup questions for you...

a) Which player has scored the most Cup Final goals?

b) Who was the first substitute to score in an FA Cup final at Wembley?

c) Which two teams played in the first Wembley FA Cup final that went to a replay?

:)

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Ian Rush ?

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It was actually Arsenal - around the turn of last century, it was a game where United lost their (green and gold) kit - so the Arse donated theirs :)

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Is the correct answer. :) 5 in total.

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Steve Heighway ?

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/Roy Walker mode - It's a good guess, but not right I'm afraid. :)

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well looks like it's going to be a Porto v ChelseaEuropean Cup final :)

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Chelsea? :shocked:

You are living up to your name M8. ;)

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Since this topic' was first started off about stoke's win against manu, just thought i'd say Stoke got a very well deserved win against West Brom, 4-1 today :)

I reckon stoke's season has been great this year.. est. themselves as a strong div1 team.. gave many a team a whooping ;) Oh to next year :)

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What? Hes done well. Not many people at arsenal who dont like him. He hasn't scored many premiership goals but has played well and is showing potential

Either way it scared me a bit today, but we managed to stick it out which is what championship teams are meant to do

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just watch tham go tomorrow night

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im hoping monaco show there resilience just as they have against the likes of real madrid who they have won, quite a solid team if everyone sticks to there instructions, a well organized side with patient players....

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I'm fairly sure Monaco will win with that type of advantage, yet they aren't a patch on Chelsea or Arsenal.

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oh come on, ok they dont have multi millions pound players, but they have beaten teams with multi million pound players, i wanted them to beat real and the did...........

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They are not but thats not really relevant.

They are a good solid side and can easily keep there lead tomorrow they also have some good few talented creative players but they will never amount to anything because there isnt enough money in the french league. They are at their peck before they players are nicked!

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Arsenal are not that type of team either! we dont have much money, our ground is crap everton have a bigger ground. All our players have been cheap, we buy them unknown e.g piers and henry and they become world class. We dont even have the ability to pay the sort of wages man u and chelsea can offer. Yet we won the title dispite millions and millions spent by the other big two.

Its not all about most money = most wins

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Eddie Fisher

I had to cheat on that one Julian and googled it :dunce:

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Yawn http://www.emotipad.com/liteemoticons/OnTheCan.gif

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I am just pointing out that money still doesnt mean victory in football. We should be happy about that

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Unnecessary response there considering the guy has a point? :confused:

Arsenal's finances are zilch compared with Manchester's, or Chelsea's.

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But it has been said before, time and time again

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Not by me, In fact it doesn't get said that much. We are usually seen as a big team in finance but we are quite low down in the table in that respect.

Thats why we are getting a stadium but till then (and a while after) we still wont be able to do a united or chelsea summer spending spree :(

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yes no one needed to know money doesent mean everything in football, its about man management, tactics, and building an army who know what they are set out to do on the pitch, they know where each other are on the pitch, and know when to stand off and let things fall in to place instead of going in for a rash tackle.....

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Its hard to build a team like you mentioned though. Chelsea have been able to do it but gods know hoe much they spent. However it can go wrong aka leeds united

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you over spend and you will turn in to another leeds, you have to spend wisely unless your a multi billionaire, having said that money is only a tiny percentage of success, its what you do with the players you buy and create a balance in the team in all areas of the team's game, its about creating a backbone in the squad, not just buying the multi million pound players and letting the team become 'stale' and players dont gel, its about atmosphere, and having a leader in the team, the staff, manager, coaches, physio, balance is key, thats why you get teams like monaco doing well, because they have some of everything, sure they are not rich but they compensate on that very easily.

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A whooping eh, I'll bet that hurts,:pp :D

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I agree - remember the Team of 92? And in the immortal words of Alan 'I look like a cross between a drunk vampire and Virgil Tracey' Hansen..."you don't win anything with kids" :D

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United did the same, remember the saying by Alan Hanson, "You can't win anything with kids"

Beckham, Scholes, Butt, Neville's, Giggs cost united nothing.

Its only over the last few seasons Ferguson has spent quite a few quid.
And on some players that didn't fit in i.e. Barthez, Taibli, Stam, although I think Stam was good but he had a run in with SAF.

The signing of last century has to be Cantona, a snip at £1 million.
The signing of this century has to be Ronaldo on his showings so far.
The biggest waste of money although he is a class centre half has to be Ferdinand at £30 Million, no centre half is worth that kind of money imo, I think manu were trying to bail Leeds out by paying all that loot.

I admit Wenger has done well with the resources he has at hand, but time will tell I suppose.

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i believe every team has its era.........

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You are too fast for me Russ :sleep:

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Most definitely Kronas, I don't think united's is quite over yet, it will also depend on who will eventually replace SAF.

I hope it will be Martin O'Neil

btw, nice to see you back posting in here

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No, our biggest waste of money was Ali G.

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i hope not :(

when he (SAF) was originally due to retire i wanted him to takeover.....and i still want him to....hes fine manager.

i drop in and out :D :mis: