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Corbyn is the toxic one. The left-wing politicians detest the idea of Boris being Conservative Leader because they know he is popular in the country and they cannot beat him. With Corbyn still loitering as Leader of the Labour Party, they have only made the situation worse for themselves.

The electorate want determination to get things done from a PM, not wiffle-waffle, indecisiveness or talk of revolution. They want more prosperity and less political correctness. They want GB to stand tall in the world again.

Boris is the obvious choice for most, albeit some might think it's Hobson's choice and may hold their noses while they vote. No matter, it's their votes that count. If he can also win over younger people with his humour and his positivity, his opinion poll standing will improve even further.

Dave42

29-10-2019 15:40

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36015350)

both are toxic OB you really need to take off your tory rose tinted glasses and get in real world

OLD BOY

29-10-2019 16:01

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36015357)

both are toxic OB you really need to take off your tory rose tinted glasses and get in real world

Boris is popular in the country and you will see this very quickly in the election campaign. I don't see Boris's recently announced policies as being toxic, and nor will most people.

You can't say the same for Corbyn's Marxist ideas, which have turned the country right off Labour.

ianch99

29-10-2019 18:35

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Here's a Boris policy that is toxic:

Trump’s Plan For The NHS: Channel 4 Dispatches

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The price the NHS pays for US medicines could soar under a trade deal with America after the UK leaves the European Union, according to an investigation by Dispatches.

Despite Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s assertion that the NHS is not on the table, Dispatches hears from sources with knowledge of the initial trade discussions between the two countries who question whether this is the whole story.

Reporter Antony Barnett discovers that “drug pricing” has been discussed in six initial meetings between trade officials from the two countries and learns of secret meetings between US drugs firms and British civil servants where medicine “price caps” have been talked about.

Dispatches was also told that British trade officials have been warned that the subject is so sensitive that they must not mention “drug pricing” in emails but use the term “valuing innovation”.
US government and its powerful pharmaceutical industry want the NHS to pay more for their medicines which are much more expensive across the Atlantic. They want to remove the UK’s ability to block American drugs not deemed “value for money” and restrict our powers to allow cheaper alternatives to be prescribed to patients which save the NHS hundreds of millions of pounds a year.

According to research carried out for the programme, the cost to the UK government could run into the billions, approximately £27 billion, wiping out the potential Brexit bonus for the NHS promised by Boris Johnson.

Oh dear, the truth is coming out just in time ...

denphone

29-10-2019 18:37

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Tories restore the whip to 10 MPs.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...bill-live-news

No surprise with that..

Carth

29-10-2019 18:42

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36015385)

Here's a Boris policy that is toxic:

Trump’s Plan For The NHS: Channel 4 Dispatches

Didn't bother reading it, but drug pricing (excessively high pricing) by large companies has been something of a talking point for years.
Maybe if doctors didn't throw them at patients willy nilly, the prices may drop and everyone might be healthier all round :)

OLD BOY

29-10-2019 19:02

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36015320)

I'm quite sure the pole dancer's secrets will come out in the next month or so. Will be quite juicy.

And the more they throw mud at Boris, the more popular he will be. The electorate is fed up with cynical, do-gooder politicians.

jfman

29-10-2019 19:06

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36015397)

And the more they throw mud at Boris, the more popular he will be. The electorate is fed up with cynical, do-gooder politicians.

They probably also want them to stand for something.

You earlier described Johnson as popular, and I'd actually concede that. If you have no conviction of your own it's easy to promise all things to all people. Until of course it comes to delivering. Just ask the DUP and Mark Francois.

OLD BOY

29-10-2019 19:06

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36015387)

Tories restore the whip to 10 MPs.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...bill-live-news

No surprise with that..

Only 10? Presumably the rest of them will be de-selected, then.

Chris

29-10-2019 19:15

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36015400)

Only 10? Presumably the rest of them will be de-selected, then.

At least half a dozen of the ones still expelled from the party are those who voted for Stella Creasey’s thoroughly pointless amendment this afternoon. They’re the usual hard remainer contingent, Ken Clarke, Guto Bebb etc.

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