Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35992333)

Wrong as usual - we are still in, because of the worst Parliament since Oliver Cromwell, worst PM since Anthony Eden and a pathetic, set of self serving fools, majority of them AKA MPs.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35992334)

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35992374)

So how will we have customs checks without any border infrastructure?

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35992361)

By the same token, I’d rather be part of a larger organisation of states working together to improve the quality of life of its citizens and economies of the participants countries, using its greater economic and political heft.

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35992370)

The likes of Romania are never, no matter how much money you give them, going to match Germany.


All Germany seems to do is want to IMPOSE on everybody else, the burdens it imposes upon itself. All in the name of a "level playing field". An EU country is not allowed to have different policies that might be beneficial to it.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35992377)

We'll just give Ireland back to the Irish, sorted. Stuff the DUP.
https://g.co/kgs/W7cuQt

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35992361)

By the same token, I’d rather be part of a larger organisation of states working together to improve the quality of life of its citizens and economies of the participants countries, using its greater economic and political heft.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35992377)

We'll just give Ireland back to the Irish, sorted. Stuff the DUP.
https://g.co/kgs/W7cuQt

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35992374)

So how will we have customs checks without any border infrastructure?

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35992374)

So how will we have customs checks without any border infrastructure?

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35992384)

Do we have to physically inspect vehicles?

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35992388)

Everything will have already been "booked in" from our current external borders, eg container ships from China, or produced in the UK.

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35992358)

It is depressing when Sinn Fein have more principles and honesty than the Brexit/UKIP political entity. Putting yourself forward in an democratic election as self-avowed fifth columnists is just gutter politics.

Here's the Code of Conduct for Members of the European Parliament



Mr Farage and his cohorts to a tee!

I wouldn't be surprised if, before long, Farage will deploys his fascist scare tactics in the upcoming EU elections.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35992389)

Not all of them, but certainly some of them.



Who checks them? You can't have customs officials at every possible unloading point in the country. Do you just trust the final recipients to declare items to be taxed, items that shouldn't have made it though? The obvious place would be in the Irish Sea but that is a non-starter with the DUP and Unionists because it further diverges N.Ireland from the rest of the U.K. which is why we asked for the wider backstop.



Plenty of people have said this but no one has an answer. People will say 'we'll just use blockchain/technology/the cloud' without elaborating or that 'it will be fine' but against without the actual answer.

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No because at the moment with the EU everything that comes into the UK from elsewhere is checked and anything from the EU is not. That's because they're checked on their entry into the EU.

We're talking about a new EU border. For most cases that's fine since we're an island so have checks at every entry point apart from one: The border on the island of Ireland.

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35992332)

we be out by now if Ireland border was solved and easy it aint easy that's why we still in at moment

Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35992338)

Is it fair to presume that at the last general election, like the referendum, people knew exactly what they were voting for? If yes, then the general population must be culpable at least to some extent as the current government is only in place due to the will of the people?

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35992399)

Spot on!

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35992400)

Nope, not spot on at all - you know very well we have a Remainer Parliament, we are still in because of self serving fools, who are not honouring their Manifesto pledges.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35992403)

The make-up of Parliament is irrelevant to the creation of the backstop. The backstop was insisted on by the Republic of Ireland - not by Theresa May, Dominic Grieve or even Amber Rudd!

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35992400)

Are you being serious with this rubbish?

The people instructed the government and yes, before Hugh starts barking, it was an instruction, to leave the corrupted EU, we was then met with a snap election, it is not the peoples fault if the government does not stick to their manifesto pledges.

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35992404)

AND - This has absolutely nothing to do with why we are still in. We are still in because as I have said more than once - we have a Remainer Parliament, Remainer PM - who simply has an half-hearted effort to leave the EU.

Put a leaver in charge and we would soon depart without all this bullshit from the Remainer saboteurs.

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35992396)

Oh please :rolleyes: - I get sick of hearing the word "fascist" these days, so commonly and incorrectly used by people who just simply disagree with others, there is nothing Fascist what Farage has ever said - it's pathetic this typical smearing from Remainers, but as usual ignore the real issues from parties like Labour and now ChUK'ers who launched this week and at last count, has now dismissed three candidates due to their prior racist remarks.