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pip08456 16-07-2017 12:59

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35908028)
Whilst The Sun is not the best of sources, other newspapers are starting to pick up on this story too. So much for the UK being first in the call for state visits and trade deals!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/402731...may-tape-leak/[I]

What has that got to do with any trade deal?

1andrew1 16-07-2017 13:35

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35908029)
What has that got to do with any trade deal?

If the US administration won't honour a simple promise then what chance is there of its honouring a complex promise?

pip08456 16-07-2017 13:39

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35908037)
If the US administration won't honour a simple promise then what chance is there of its honouring a complex promise?

Which simple promise are you referring to?

1andrew1 16-07-2017 14:02

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35908038)
Which simple promise are you referring to?

Visiting the UK this year was promised when Theresa May visited Washington this January. Multiple sources are reporting that this won't happen this year.

pip08456 16-07-2017 14:10

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Was there ever a date set for it?

1andrew1 16-07-2017 14:22

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35908043)
Was there ever a date set for it?

We got this:

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Visiting the UK this year was promised when Theresa May visited Washington this January. Multiple sources are reporting that this won't happen this year.

Mick 16-07-2017 16:58

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Sigh. SSDD.

No date was set, or was ever set. No official date has ever been set or given. No promises have ever been made.

It doesn't need a President to come to arrange trade deals. But it would be courteous to extend a invitation, as there are just as many people who would welcome the President as those who don't.

If we can allow the Chinese President to come, with all the trimmings, with a civilisation with dubious human rights records, we can allow President Donald J Trump to come and yes, I would have said same if Hillary Clinton had won, as crooked as I think the Clintons come.

1andrew1 16-07-2017 21:55

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35908076)
Sigh. SSDD.

No date was set, or was ever set. No official date has ever been set or given. No promises have ever been made.

It doesn't need a President to come to arrange trade deals. But it would be courteous to extend a invitation, as there are just as many people who would welcome the President as those who don't.

If we can allow the Chinese President to come, with all the trimmings, with a civilisation with dubious human rights records, we can allow President Donald J Trump to come and yes, I would have said same if Hillary Clinton had won, as crooked as I think the Clintons come.

Firstly, I agree with you that we should allow Trump to visit. He's certainly not the worst leader to visit the UK by a long mile. He may not go down too well with the Royal Family for his comments about Lady Diana and his ignorance of global warming but they've hard far worse guests to entertain.

I do have a couple of sighs I'm afraid though. Sorry.
Sigh No.1 The pesky mainstream media reported back in January 2017 that Trump had agreed to visit this year.
Sigh No. 2 No one has said the President needs to visit the UK to arrange trade deals, that's a straw man. I'll reiterate the point I made. If a small promise is not kept then the chances of a large promise like a trade deal is reduced.

pip08456 16-07-2017 23:14

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35908114)
I'll reiterate the point I made. If a small promise is not kept then the chances of a large promise like a trade deal is reduced.

That is nothing more than your opinion which you are quite entitled to.

papa smurf 17-07-2017 08:58

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trump is not going to visit if thousands of hate peddling scruffy libtards are on the streets spoiling his visit for the millions who want him to come , once the government stop these vile hate filled morons we will get a visit , a visiting head of state should be treated with respect especially the head of our closest ally .

passingbat 17-07-2017 11:03

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35908132)
trump is not going to visit if thousands of hate peddling scruffy libtards are on the streets spoiling his visit for the millions who want him to come , once the government stop these vile hate filled morons we will get a visit , a visiting head of state should be treated with respect especially the head of our closest ally .


Quite frankly, the way the British media have behaved, by pushing a biased view of Trump, you could not blame Trump, if he told the British to, 'Go take a running jump!

Hugh 17-07-2017 11:04

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35908140)
Quite frankly, the way the British media have behaved, by pushing a biased view of Trump, you could not blame Trump, if he told the British to, 'Go take a running jump!

Yes, how biased are they, reporting what he and his family actually say and do.

Why can't they just copy Fox News and blindly praise him?

papa smurf 17-07-2017 11:33

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35908140)
Quite frankly, the way the British media have behaved, by pushing a biased view of Trump, you could not blame Trump, if he told the British to, 'Go take a running jump!

i blame the rent a retard mob that turn up at the drop of a hat .

i read yesterday that quite a lot of prominent reporters are now in need of security guards to protect them [the price of picking sides]

Damien 17-07-2017 11:34

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35908132)
trump is not going to visit if thousands of hate peddling scruffy libtards are on the streets spoiling his visit for the millions who want him to come , once the government stop these vile hate filled morons we will get a visit , a visiting head of state should be treated with respect especially the head of our closest ally .

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35908140)
Quite frankly, the way the British media have behaved, by pushing a biased view of Trump, you could not blame Trump, if he told the British to, 'Go take a running jump!

We have a free press and the right to protest. Saudi Arabia did manage to give him a positive reception but the Government can't control such things here. If Trump is waiting for that he may be waiting some time (obviously some stuff can change but I don't see it baring an external event intervening).

This is why I am wary of a trade deal happening. If the independent press of another country being mean about you is a problem then he is too temperamental to deal with. What if he pulls out of talks or the deal because a bad headline sets him off? It's like dealing with a child. Hopefully he won't take too much of an interest in the deal leaving it all to congressional republicans.

Osem 17-07-2017 11:48

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35908141)
Yes, how biased are they, reporting what he and his family actually say and do.

Why can't they just copy Fox News and blindly praise him?

Well assuming that everything he/they say/do do isn't terrible, they could maybe try to report something positive. That'd be less biased. ;)


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