Cable Forum - Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. I

So current standings Sky have 42 HD channels to VM 13 with what I feel is a Go Get List of 11 more taking VM to 24 HD channels.

This then leaves Sky's own HD channels which I can only presume will be part of the Ofcom ruling.
My understanding is that Sky HD channels are a option to VM but this would result in VM charging customer in the region of Â£20 per month - something that does not make sence when VM are trying to compete.

In that case if VM can offer all HD channels (excluding Skys HD channels) for no extra monthly subscripion then I think us VM customer are getting a good HD service - with the extra option to add Sky HD channels at a premiem.

HD Channels
Sky Movies Comedy- Sky Only
Sky Movies Family- Sky Only
Sky Movies Classics- Sky Only
Sky Movies Modern Greats- Sky Only
Sky Movies SD1- Sky Only
Sky Movies Action/Thriller- Sky Only
Sky Movies Sci-fi/Horror- Sky Only
Sky Movies Indie- Sky Only
Sky Movies Drama- Sky Only
Sky Movies SD2- Sky Only
Sky Box Office 1- Sky Only
Sky Box Office 2- Sky Only
MGM- Sky Only but VM go get List
Disney- Sky Only but VM go get List
Film 4- VM Only
Sky Sports 1- Sky Only
Sky Sports 2- Sky Only
Sky Sports 3- Sky Only
Sky Sports 4- Sky Only
ESPN- Sky & VM
EUROSPORT- Sky & VM
RUSH- Sky Only but VM go get List
Sky1- Sky Only
E4- Sky & VM
SciFi- Sky & VM
FX- Sky & VM
MTV- Sky & VM
History- Sky Only but VM go get List
Bio- Sky Only but VM go get List
Discovery- Sky & VM
CI- Sky Only but VM go get List
Nat Geo- Sky & VM
Nat Geo Wild- Sky Only but VM go get List
Sky Real Lives- Sky Only
Sky Arts 1- Sky Only
Sky Arts 2- Sky Only
Living- VM Only
Hallmark- Sky Only but VM go get List
Sky News- Sky Only
BBC- Sky & VM
ITV- Sky & VM
C4- Sky & VM
Five- Sky Only but VM go get List
Luxe- Sky Only but VM go get List

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It would be also intresting to see how sky reach the 50 HD channels mark by Xmas.

I do know that the below HD channels are in early statges

BBC News HD
ESPN Americia HD
Good Food HD
Since VM have delayed selling VMTV channels its suggested they could revert back to the old plan which was to HD Bravo, Challange and V1. - But i'm guessing these would go down the same route as Living HD - VM Only.

So thats a possiable 6 more but knowing Sky they seem to convert all Sky Channels to HD so guessing Sky2/3 will also get the HD treatment and maybe Sky Sports News.

Just to be precise Big , i think it is actually 10 on your get go list not 11 so i make it a possible 23 hd channels VM are aiming for not 24.

TheDon

17-03-2010 16:53

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Originally Posted by Thyroid Help (Post 34981904)

media boy, sorry to bring this up, I have one minor problem with your grammar. (mine is not perfect at all but I thought I would bring this to your attention)

Your use of 'an' is nearly always wrong.

An is used before a word that starts with a vowel ie. an igloo, an apple an orange an exclusive etc etc.

A is used elsewhere ie. a HD channel a virgin customer a new channel..

Hope this helps and please dont take this personally its just a bit of advice to enhance my reading pleasure of your posts which I find very helpful!!

keep up the good work:)

Actually, whilst your post is mostly corrent, An is used before words that start with a vowel SOUND, not an actual vowel.

There's many cases of words that start with consonants where An is the appropriate word, such as "an hour", and words that start with vowels where A is the correct prefix, like "a united".

Like many words starting with H, HD is a special case which directly depends on the pronunciation of the letter H, many people will pronounce H with a h sound, as in heyatch, others with an a sound, as in aytch. In the latter An is correct.

Big Red

17-03-2010 16:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mot12 (Post 34981910)

Just to be precise Big , i think it is actually 10 on your get go list not 11 so i make it a possible 23 hd channels VM are aiming for not 24.

Thanks

mot12

17-03-2010 17:10

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LOL guys. But imo we have not signed up for grammar lessons here on the cable forums. :D I do think maths is very important though. lol.

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Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 34981917)

Thanks

No problem some good info in your post though.:)

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Sorry i think i buggered the post above up a bit , plesse dont lecture me i am new here.:D

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WTF is going on.:D

Big Red

17-03-2010 17:26

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For the "corrected" 10 go get list, the below are the one's which could be difficult

Bio - AETN UK & BskyB (Launch Date SKY) 05/11/2008
C&I - AETN UK & BskyB (Launch Date SKY) 05/11/2008
History - AETN UK & BskyB (Launch Date SKY) 26/10/2006
MGM - Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer & BskyB (Launch Date SKY) 14/12/2009

Sky dont own these channels put partner to produce a HD platform and in some cases HD content.

MGM could be another year but from what I saw when I had Sky there was aload of rubbish - so not missing much.

With the other 3, they have being out in the open for some time and since there owned by the same broadcaster we could get all 3 or could fall under this Ofcom ruling VM are waiting to hear.

So lets say 6 out of the 10 are surley 100% coming soon HD channels

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Before anyone asks - AETN UK = Arts & Entertainment Television Networks
The company is jointly owned by Hearst Corporation, Disney-ABC Television Group, and NBC Universal

Media Boy UK

17-03-2010 17:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 34981928)

Before anyone asks - AETN UK = Arts & Entertainment Television Networks
The company is jointly owned by Hearst Corporation, Disney-ABC Television Group, and NBC Universal

Thanks for info.

:welcome: to the mad house.

Big Red

17-03-2010 17:34

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Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 34981841)

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[/COLOR]It would be also intresting to see how sky reach the 50 HD channels mark by Xmas.

I do know that the below HD channels are in early statges

BBC News HD
ESPN Americia HD
Good Food HD
Since VM have delayed selling VMTV channels its suggested they could revert back to the old plan which was to HD Bravo, Challange and V1. - But i'm guessing these would go down the same route as Living HD - VM Only.

So thats a possiable 6 more but knowing Sky they seem to convert all Sky Channels to HD so guessing Sky2/3 will also get the HD treatment and maybe Sky Sports News.

Forgot to add Animal Planet HD - Discovery Networks could add others also in coming year (DMAX rings bells but can not find anything backing that up)

Animal Planet
Animal Planet +1
Discovery Channel
Discovery Channel +1
Discovery HD
Discovery Home & Health
Discovery Home & Health +1
Discovery Knowledge
Discovery Knowledge +1
Discovery Real Time
Discovery Real Time +1
Discovery Science
Discovery Science +1
Discovery Shed
Discovery Travel & Living
Discovery Turbo
DMAX
DMAX +1
DMAX +2
Investigation Discovery
QUEST
QUEST +1

joff81

17-03-2010 17:42

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Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 34981907)

And to add to the above watch out Sky Sports - ESPN are coming.
Fully expect ESPN to out bid Sky on more than one Prem league package when they next come up for bidding - ESPN are a huge Global force.

Remember Sky only get UK rights to Prem League with the Prem League selling Global rights direct - if we all think the current prem deal is crazy then I hate to think what the next deal will be.

And who pays for this? Yep us - does anyone recall Sky reducing the Sports package when Setanta/ESPN had 2 packages - not a chance.

im sorry to say but there is more to sports than football and to be honest football is all that ESPN is bothered about.
there is a serious lack of motorsports on ESPN and they missed out on both NASCAR (live and highlights) and Indycar (highlights), whats even worse is they missed out on NASCAR to a public broadcast channel.
sure ESPN get DTM but its only due to the fact it is a left over off the Setanta deal. i think its pretty poor that ESPN have big presence in US and they cant even get the bigger Motor racing series from the US on air here in UK.

there is too much focus on football on ESPN that is not relevent here in the UK and there is fans of sports that they are already showing in the US but dont show here in the UK.

you say whch out Sky Sports - ESPN are coming !!

i say Sky Sports have nothing to worry about as all the stuff shown on ESPN is very minority orientated apart from the football and SKY have a wide range of sports that i will watch.
even eurosport has WTCC, SKB, Moto GP, F3 series that are all coming in HD soon.

gadge

17-03-2010 17:48

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Originally Posted by joff81 (Post 34981941)

I am afraid the words are true regarding espn coming for sky sports have you seen the size of espn they make sky look like amateurs money wise plus they also have much deeper pockets.

one2escape

17-03-2010 17:49

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No like big red said i feel they are getting there grounding. I fully expect them to be serious bidders come the next round of TV deals. They are not fly by night people. I think sentanta going under forced there hand a little. So now they have got into the market cheaper than they first thought.

Media Boy UK

17-03-2010 17:55

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Men and Motors update.

ITV told a Sky Viewer that M&M close at 6am on April 1st on Sky. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...&postcount=214

But Virgin are set to drop M&M next Thursday (March 25th) so we may get an extra week.

More info as I get it...

(I have sent an email to ITV).

joff81

17-03-2010 17:57

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 34981943)

I am afraid the words are true regarding espn coming for sky sports have you seen the size of espn they make sky look like amateurs money wise plus they also have much deeper pockets.

they may have deep pockets but they proved they are too scared to dip into them with NASCAR i mean they lost out to a public access channel FFS !!!

it just seems that everytime i put ESPN/HD on there is nothing but football on and to be honest football does not float my boat.
i really thought the we would get some of the US motor racing series here in UK that they alrready have contracts to show in US but we get nothing other than DTM that is a leftover from Setanta.

even Eurosport shows more US motorsport than ESPN as they show the US 24 hours series !!!

like i said they already failed with NASCAR which is the most popular US racing series public access and that is really bad for a broadcast company with so called "deep pockets".

Big Red

17-03-2010 18:00

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Originally Posted by joff81 (Post 34981941)

Sky have the rights to Nascar in the US and did so before ESPN joined the UK market - So they were unable to offer this to us UK fans.

ESPN own the NASCAR rights in US and also plan to release NASCAR via HD. - if you watch NASCAR on Sky sports you will see that its covered by ESPN
and in some cases FOX and sometimes by ABC which comes under the same ownership as ESPN.

Remember this is ESPN first year.

joff81

17-03-2010 18:04

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Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 34981950)

Sky dont own the rights to NASCAR here in the UK the deal ran uot with the daytona 500 this year. some little nobody picked up the UK rights to air on public access because ESPN were either too slow or not willing to pay for it.

as for Indycar sure Sky have the deal for that but Five had the highlight rights packaget oboth NASCAR and Indycar but it ran out last year and so far nobody has picked up either. if ESPN were the company you say then they would snap up a highlight package for both but they clearly are only bothered about football here in the UK.

Big Red

17-03-2010 18:13

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ESPN UK Coverage
Football
Prem League
Scotish Prem League
Europa League
Serie A
German League
Portuguese League
Russian and Dutch leagues
Other
UFC - A MUST SEE
NBA
NHL
NCAA
Top 14 Rugby
AFL

Also from this Summer - The FA Cup. Women’s Super League and England Under 21, Guinness Premiership

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