Cable Forum - Coronavirus

Yes, but you are counting the numbers for the whole year, and that will be higher. The BBC report I heard on the news was that the death levels were now below average for the month.

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The number of cases now equates to far fewer deaths now, thanks to the vaccination programme and the anti-virals that are now used to treat Covid.

You may want to know about the number of cases, but you don't need to know, just as you don't need a running commentary on other diseases that lead to deaths.

Covid is no longer the biggest killer, so it's time to end the paranoia.

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The number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 25 February 2022 (Week 8) was 11,150 - the figure for the 22nd February 2020 was 10,841

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...25february2022

Those are the weekly figures, not the whole year..

spiderplant

13-03-2022 12:56

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36116486)

Yes, but you are counting the numbers for the whole year, and that will be higher. The BBC report I heard on the news was that the death levels were now below average for the month.

Many people who would have died this winter were killed by COVID in 2020 or 2021. In other words, it shortened their life by a year or two. You can only die once.

Pierre

13-03-2022 13:22

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36116477)

Of course, these dead people are not people you know.

There’s loads of dead people I don’t know, in fact I don’t know hardly any of the people that die every day from any reason.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36116482)

Important point - it’s less than the five year average. It still higher than the same time before COVID two years ago.

The number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 25 February 2022 (Week 8) was 11,150 - the figure for the 22nd February 2020 was 10,841

Also, the last two of the five years had higher than average death rates (due to COVID), this increases the current five year average -

Example
2015 - 100
2016 - 100
2017 - 100
2018 - 100
2019 - 100
5 year average - 100

2019 - 100
2018 - 100
2019 - 100
2020 - 120
2021 - 125
5 year average - 109

2018 - 100
2019 - 100
2020 - 120
2021 - 125
2022 - 110
5 year average - 111

So, our current five year average is still higher than before COVID.

Averages and percentages ……….have been used since their invention to prove or debunk any argument whichever way the person using them want the narrative to go.

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36116489)

Still the 3rd biggest killer

After what?

Jaymoss

13-03-2022 14:14

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36116499)

After what?

If you search you will find the same results as me. I am not doing it for you

Pierre

13-03-2022 17:04

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36116504)

If you search you will find the same results as me. I am not doing it for you

What a juvenile response, I couldn’t give a toss, you made the statement. I thought it was a discussion forum

Paul	13-03-2022 17:30

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36116504)

If you search you will find the same results as me. I am not doing it for you

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36116477)

It requires pretty basic level of understanding to realise that more cases equal more deaths.

It requirs a better level of understanding to realise that one does not necessarily lead to the other.

Jaymoss

13-03-2022 18:09

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36116515)

Why waste time posting it then :rolleyes:

You also proved the point btw, if its only the 3rd, where is the daily running commentry on the 1st and 2nd ?

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It requirs a better level of understanding to realise that one does not necessarily lead to the other.

A. Because it was factual
B. I would have looked for anyone else

As for proving a point
1 and 2 were killing as many before (well I assume it was but they only mentioned 1 which was Alzheimer's just for you). Up jumps number 3 brand new, kills loads and still kills loads. I am not gonna get sucked into arguements on this topic I saw his post I searched and found it was 3rd and posted. That is all. No need for the Spanish Inquisition or I will have to go get the comfy chair again

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36116509)

What a juvenile response, I couldn’t give a toss, you made the statement. I thought it was a discussion forum

I just do not like you that is all

Pierre

13-03-2022 18:22

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36116521)

I just do not like you that is all

Ha, who gives a shit.

Chris

13-03-2022 20:59

Re: Coronavirus

oi … play nicely please.

Paul	13-03-2022 21:20

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36116521)

Up jumps number 3 brand new, kills loads and still kills loads.

Except its not brand new anymore - as to 'Loads' ... well not really.

If you want to see how covid deaths stack up against overall deaths, see ;

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...25february2022

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Of the deaths registered in Week 8 in England and Wales, 766 mentioned "novel coronavirus (COVID-19)", accounting for 6.9% of all deaths

Mick	13-03-2022 21:33

Re: Coronavirus

Former U.S President Barack Obama has announced he has tested positive for Covid-19

ianch99

13-03-2022 21:39

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36116515)

It requirs a better level of understanding to realise that one does not necessarily lead to the other.

Which you seem not to have.

If case rates rise, hospital admissions & deaths will rise. This is especially true as the 3rd jab efficacy wanes. There is no medical consensus that I have seen that defines how long the booster lasts. I'd like to know how these metrics are progressing. You may wish to stick your head in the sand but there are many who want to be aware of what is happening in the country. We need to remain vigilant.

Paul	13-03-2022 21:47

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36116546)

Which you seem not to have.

If you want to be a dick I can happily remove you from the topic.

Rising cases do not automatically mean rising hospital admissions, or deaths, as was noted in the figures many times over the last few months.

You are free to obsess over one virus if you want, I will be carrying on with my life, and worry about more important things that actually matter to me.

Pierre

13-03-2022 22:07

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36116547)

Rising cases do not automatically mean rising hospital admissions

I think you’ll find the recent omicron wave completely ………………..whatever, supports that view.

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