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I think they're not drastically different from the UK although Italy's political structure makes it perhaps the weaker of the pack and Germany's makes it the stronger. All have their issues from time to time, as does the UK.

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Right OK, so they're fundamentally the same as the UK, and therefore stable enough to be a safe haven for the migrants previously discussed.

I wonder why said migrants come skipping through to reach the UK then?

Could it be because, now we've left the EU, they consider us to be the best bet in a political and economical sense, with much better future prospects long term?

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I read somewhere that it's because the french treat them like they are sub human,and make it known they are not welcome.

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Most migrants don't end up in the UK. Those that do come here do so for a variety of reasons including existing communities and language.

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Explaining the situation is not condoning or condemning one side or the other.
In this instance, I'm pointing out the squeeze that BoJo is in - the only realistic solution to this type of migration is better relationships with the EU member states. This is an approach he's not taking at the moment due to his desire to engage in perfidious behaviour around the Withdrawal Agreement.

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Not this utter utter drivel again, well established fact that both Germany & France take in more than we do.

I expected better from you Sephi

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Maybe a nicely worded letter from Boris to that nice Mr Macaroni in France isn't such a bad idea.

Something along the lines of mentioning our good relationships over the years - well apart from a few hiccups in the middle ages - and helpfully pointing out that WW2 ended quite a while ago, and there really is no need to recreate the Dunkirk evacuations using rubber dinghy's and migrants. Oh and while we're at it, your cheese stinks

That should do it :D


Actually, it may be better if that Pretty Pratty woman sent it ;)

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Knowing bozo he'll tell them we'll recreate Mers el Kebir...

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In your explanation are you asserting they cannot be returned to France because under the Dublin agreement France would be the first safe country they arrived in and we are no longer part of that agreement.

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My understanding is that the following ended with Brexit
"The Dublin III Regulation enabled the UK to return some asylum seekers to EU Member States without considering their asylum claims."
Per: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk...ings/cbp-9031/

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It sounds like you're agreeing with me. In essence, Farage has got BoJo where the opposition is currently unable to get him - by the short and curlies.

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As predicted, the EU is not at all keen to poison the UK-EU trade deal, now it’s becoming clear that HMG isn’t going to implement it as written or back down in the face of legal threats.

It has used the UK’s latest proposals as an excuse to “pause” the legal proceedings it commenced in March. It is now creating diplomatic wriggle-room for itself, indicating it is prepared to consider solutions that respect the “principle” of the deal, even while it loudly protests that it won’t renegotiate. Of course, a renegotiation was never really necessary, had the EU been prepared to countenance a measure of trust, good faith and common sense, instead of trying to use the blood of every victim of the Troubles to force the UK to capitulate.

I suspect the EU Commission has been instructed to wind its corporate neck in by one or more well-placed sources inside some of the principal member state governments. And I predict that once heads have cooled, we might be surprised just how much the EU decides actually remains within the spirit of good relations upon which the legal text is predicated.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57986307

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Someone had to act like a responsible adult here and that was unlikely to be BoJo.

Maybe the EU felt sory for us? Since December 2019, the UK's economy has contracted by 11.3% with a budget deficit of 14.3% whilst the Eurozone economy has contracted by 6.9% with a deficit spending of 7.2%. The UK has by far the lowest growth rate of the G7.
https://tradingeconomics.com/