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TheDaddy 23-04-2019 22:24

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35992036)
Nah, only a fool would believe it.

Yeah turn the other cheek and love for your neighbour have no place in the clever person's world

Chris 23-04-2019 23:08

Re: Brexit
 
Stick to the topic please.

RichardCoulter 24-04-2019 11:04

Re: Brexit
 
Anne Widdecombe has resigned from the Tory party to join and stand as a candidate for Farrages party, citing that the way Brexit has been handled has made us a laughing stock.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48034732

Never thought i'd see her defect.

Mr K 24-04-2019 11:47

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35992086)
Anne Widdecombe has resigned from the Tory party to join and stand as a candidate for Farrages party, citing that the way Brexit has been handled has made us a laughing stock.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48034732

Never thought i'd see her defect.

Well she defected from C of E to RC, so she's got form as a troublemaker ;)

Chris 24-04-2019 12:04

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35992093)
Well she defected from C of E to RC, so she's got form as a troublemaker ;)

On the contrary, it shows she is truly a religious/social/political conservative. It is perceived social liberalism in the C of E that has resulted in a number of defections to Rome, and it is the Conservative PM's failure to deliver on a referendum called as a result of Conservative policy and whose outcome clearly still enjoys very widespread support amongst Conservative voters (as well as others) that has caused her to jump ship now.

A phrase I often hear grassroots Tories recite at times like this is 'I never left the party, the party left me'.

On the other hand, doing Strictly and Big Brother ... they show off her form as a troublemaker. :D

Mr K 24-04-2019 12:14

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35992099)
On the contrary, it shows she is truly a religious/social/political conservative. It is perceived social liberalism in the C of E that has resulted in a number of defections to Rome, and it is the Conservative PM's failure to deliver on a referendum called as a result of Conservative policy and whose outcome clearly still enjoys very widespread support amongst Conservative voters (as well as others) that has caused her to jump ship now.

A phrase I often hear grassroots Tories recite at times like this is 'I never left the party, the party left me'.

On the other hand, doing Strictly and Big Brother ... they show off her form as a troublemaker. :D

Yes probably why Tony Blair went RC too !

I can see why the Archbishop of Canterbury going on about poverty and food banks, has upset some Conservatives. They'll have women priests and treat them as equals next !

OLD BOY 24-04-2019 13:19

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35992093)
Well she defected from C of E to RC, so she's got form as a troublemaker ;)

It shows that she can think for herself rather than mindlessly following the crowd.

Mr K 24-04-2019 21:01

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35992107)
It shows that she can think for herself rather than mindlessly following the crowd.

Isn't that exactly what she has done?

Mick 24-04-2019 21:23

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35992147)
Isn't that exactly what she has done?

No.

And whoever keeps bringing religion on to this topic. - Pack it in!!! :dozey:

Sephiroth 26-04-2019 10:30

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35992065)
Yeah turn the other cheek and love for your neighbour have no place in the clever person's world

Seems highly relevant to Brexit.

May was/is not a clever person yet she did just that and let the EU crap all over her.

The clever person would have told the EU when this stuff (A50) started that we were leaving in two years and invited the EU’s proposals. We would have used the 2 years for No Deal preparations and the Backstop would not have been able to be proposed by the EU.

Maybe it did have something to do with TM’s religious beliefs!

nomadking 26-04-2019 10:45

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35992303)
Seems highly relevant to Brexit.

May was/is not a clever person yet she did just that and let the EU crap all over her.

The clever person would have told the EU when this stuff (A50) started that we were leaving in two years and invited the EU’s proposals. We would have used the 2 years for No Deal preparations and the Backstop would not have been able to be proposed by the EU.

Maybe it did have something to do with TM’s religious beliefs!

May is just completely inept. Even outside of Brexit-related issues, what has she got right?

denphone 26-04-2019 10:50

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35992308)
May is just completely inept. Even outside of Brexit-related issues, what has she got right?

A pretty spot on analysis..

Sephiroth 26-04-2019 10:56

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35992308)
May is just completely inept. Even outside of Brexit-related issues, what has she got right?

She knows my first name!

Mr K 26-04-2019 11:10

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35992311)
She knows my first name!

I suspect you're Norman Tebbit in disguise. A very perfidious, hegemonic bloke ;)

Dave42 26-04-2019 12:40

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35992303)
Seems highly relevant to Brexit.

May was/is not a clever person yet she did just that and let the EU crap all over her.

The clever person would have told the EU when this stuff (A50) started that we were leaving in two years and invited the EU’s proposals. We would have used the 2 years for No Deal preparations and the Backstop would not have been able to be proposed by the EU.

Maybe it did have something to do with TM’s religious beliefs!

you know know the backstop was a uk proposal right and a no deal breaks the good Friday agreement and US have warned if that broke no trade deal

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.dad515e4d187


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