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If the Democrats won control of Congress in November, could Trump be impeached? I appreciate he can't be indicted whilst in office but he has been directly implicated in a federal crime by his former personal lawyer.
Sorry. Two wrongs never make a right.

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Maybe Cohen has been 'helpful' although no plea bargain....

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I've heard suggestions, just random internet speculation, that Mueller could keep anything under wraps until Trump is no longer President to avoid him pardoning himself or otherwise using the office to hinder it. Not sure how possible that is.

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Here is Ben Shapiro, a right wing commentator who is a lawyer, saying it's not 'the end' for Trump but he has to be careful: https://twitchy.com/jacobb-38/2018/0...-pardon-cohen/

and that pardoning Cohen won't work.

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I honestly don't think this going to make any difference to Trumps core nutters. He could murder babies live on air and they still follow him/ have an excuse.

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The diehards will always defend the inexcusable and indefensible Mr K whether its Trump , Corbyn , etc , etc..

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Mueller will not be allowed to carry this investigation on and on. By now, Trump should rightly use his constitutional power as President and fire Mueller because it’s very obvious this was a setup from the very beginning, bent officials that had ties to funding from the Crooked Clinton’s or folk with close connections to them.

The illegitimate FISA warrant(s) with unverified sources.

The one sided liberal media who are believed to have been involved in the exposure of the Fake Dossier. It was the media which was used as an attempt to verify sources in the FISA warrant, big no no.

Mueller was tasked to investigate possible links in the Trump campaign with the Russians hacking the DNC. He hasn’t found that evidence, so as his unlimited scope is now looking for any potential crimes, even petty crimes that are being blown up to be impeachable crimes.

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Agreed. These are serious crimes that cannot be brushed under the carpet so I suspect the usual media conspiracies and Mueller-must-turn-a-blind-eye-to-tax-evasion excuses to be recycled.

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Do you how awful it's going to look if he fires Mueller not only after he files charges against people but some of those have been tested in court and convinced a jury? If Trump hasn't done anything wrong firing Mueller would be a huge mistake.

Trump calls it's a witch hunt but the point of those is they never found witches. A criminal investigation is a better term.



He was but his scope allowed him to investigate matters that arose from the investigation too. It essentially allows him to uncover criminality as long as that criminality arose as part of the investigation into Russia and that's what happened to Manafort. Cohen he actually referred to a different prosecutor. Even if Mueller was fired today that investigation into campaign finance could continue unabated. You would need to fire the New York Attorney's office people too.

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Serious crimes?

Not.

Campaign finance violations are common.

President Obama’s campaign in 2008, was fined by for campaign finance violations. Was he impeached?

They can be dressed up as a petty crimes but to say they are serious is very far fetched.

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It wasn't a reporting violation though it was breaking the law. What Obama seemed to do is break FEC rules for how you report on donations for which the publishment is a fine. Cohen seemed to make illegal campaign contributions.

It's like saying filing late tax returns and tax evasion are 'tax violations' - one lands you with a fine the other is illegal.

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But seriously, it’s cost $20 Million + to find this petty crime?

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If this were the sole focus then it would be a bit mad but this crime has just found during the main investigation, as I said it wasn't even prosecuted by Mueller.

Mueller's investigation has had Flynn, Manafort and Papadopoulos have pled or been found guilty for a variety of crimes.

In the end if Mueller finds nothing on Trump then fair enough. It's not a failed investigation because an investigation doesn't have to end with a conviction if nothing was found.

Put it this way if Mueller ends his investigation with Trump being in the clear surely that's better for him in 2020 than if he were to fire Mueller and have the question over his head.

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Cohen did get a plea bargain.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ml#document/p1

She tried her best yesterday.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/16/u...rump-tape.html

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A crime is still a crime no matter how big or small. Also that was not what the actual investigation was looking for. they just happened to find it during investigating other things,

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Great tweet

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...47043992023040

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Tax evasion is what they "get" you on in the states when they can't find anything else. ;)