Cable Forum - Unstoppable migration?

I don't think the actual numbers are known yet but the article I linked to makes the point about the low turnout. Unless all the others who didn't vote would have voted for the deal, it's still a big NO.

Taf	02-10-2016 21:34

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I bet Merkel won't call for a similar vote.... he he he he....

Osem	02-10-2016 21:39

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35861479)

I bet Merkel won't call for a similar vote.... he he he he....

Nein... ;)

heero_yuy

03-10-2016 09:44

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35861474)

The minimum level of voters (50%) was not achieved though.

Interestingly that rule was bought in after their EU membership was approved on a 45.6% turnout with 83.8% approval. (38.3% of the population)

Wiki link

Seems to me this is a more emphatic result with 95% of 49% (46.5%)

Ignitionnet

03-10-2016 10:41

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Rather than campaigning for a 'Yes' vote the opposition there were campaigning for people to spoil ballots or just not show up.

It worked.

The turnout was 43.9% by the way, not 49%. Wasn't a closely run thing.

Amusingly there are actually so few refugees allocated to Hungary that the cost of the referendum would've paid for E31,000 worth of training, integration, language skills, etc, for each and every one of them.

I disagree with the mandatory resettlement programme but this was a big waste of time and money to cement a position in internal politics.

nomadking

03-10-2016 10:47

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35861502)

Rather than campaigning for a 'Yes' vote the opposition there were campaigning for people to spoil ballots or just not show up.

It worked.

The turnout was 43.7% by the way, not 49%. Wasn't a closely run thing.

Amusingly there are actually so few refugees allocated to Hungary that the cost of the referendum would've paid for E31,000 worth of training, integration, language skills, etc, for each and every one of them.

I disagree with the mandatory resettlement programme but this was a big waste of time and money to cement a position in internal politics.

That would have just been the first wave, with more to follow. No amount of money will ever integrate them. The vote was about the Hungarian government having the final say and not the EU.

Ignitionnet

03-10-2016 10:51

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35861503)

That would have just been the first wave, with more to follow. No amount of money will ever integrate them. The vote was about the Hungarian government having the final say and not the EU.

Hmm.

Osem	09-10-2016 14:23

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Liberal Sweden's policy on mass migration doesn't seem to be working all that well now does it.

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Sweden is a peaceful democratic state that has long been a safe haven for those fleeing conflict. Yet many young people whose families took refuge there are now turning their back on the country. More than 300 people have gone to fight in Syria and Iraq, making Sweden per capita one of the biggest exporters of jihadists in Europe.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37578919

Of course 'mistakes' like this can't just be undone can they and the lagacy will be long lived I'm certain. I think that, in the rush to 'do the right thing', the long term ramifications have been overlooked.

Ramrod

09-10-2016 15:30

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This makes relentlessly depressing reading :(

Osem	09-10-2016 16:58

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35862631)

This makes relentlessly depressing reading :(

Very depressing indeed but nothing much has been learned yet apparently. Those high profile figures who keep banging on about morals, humanity etc. aren't the ones in most need or amongst those whose services, housing, job prospects and local environment take the biggest hit. In fact when they're not out campaigning a good many of them spend quite a lot of their time buying more houses and erecting security fences to protect all that property they've acquired in the most select and desirable areas which will never be home to 99% of us let alone the truly needy they reckon they're so keen to assist. Odd that eh?... :rolleyes:

RichardCoulter

09-10-2016 23:54

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What should we do about the EU migrants already living here?

http://cableforum.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=33703753

Ramrod

12-10-2016 14:23

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Bizzare story

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Muslim Man in Norway Raped Daughter for Being ‘Too Western’

:confused:

TheDaddy