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Hugh 21-08-2025 15:04

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36201485)
Us pensioners are a nasty bunch, going shopping in the high street with our zimmer frames and walking sticks, getting in the way of cyclists and single mothers with their 5 screaming kids, trying to pay cash for a bottle of milk and small loaf.
They even closed Libraries and Post Offices to prevent us having mass gatherings :D

tbf, it’s probably just you… ;)

papa smurf 22-08-2025 13:27

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sign removed from road after constant honking
The dual carriageway became "the loudest in Britain" after motorists joined a chorus of dissent against the Prime Minister's migration policies.

Sir kier seems popular :)

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ageway-honking

Pierre 22-08-2025 14:53

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A miracle if he's still PM, by this time next year.

papa smurf 22-08-2025 14:57

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36201519)
A miracle if he's still PM, by this time next year.

but he'll still be a .......

thenry 26-08-2025 15:01

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A MIGRANT tried to kiss a 14-year-old schoolgirl and invited her back to his taxpayer-funded asylum hotel, a court heard today.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/364401...-asylum-hotel/
This reminds me of this https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...ghlight=Cherry

OLD BOY 27-08-2025 09:47

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36201486)
released on licence, same as anyone else pleading guilty, after serving 40% of her sentence. Obviously not considered a dangerous.

Shouldn't have been there in the first place.

I don't know. She was inciting people to commit a murderous act of burning down a building full of migrants. Do you not consider that serious enough to warrant a jail sentence?

Sephiroth 27-08-2025 10:06

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36201714)
I don't know. She was inciting people to commit a murderous act of burning down a building full of migrants. Do you not consider that serious enough to warrant a jail sentence?

Oh dear.

Pierre 27-08-2025 10:32

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36201714)
I don't know. She was inciting people to commit a murderous act of burning down a building full of migrants. Do you not consider that serious enough to warrant a jail sentence?

Who was she inciting exactly?

I refer you to a previous post, to you.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=1695

Mr K 27-08-2025 10:47

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36201719)
Who was she inciting exactly?

I refer you to a previous post, to you.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=1695

She pleaded guilty to the offence of distributing material with the intention of stirring up racial hatred.

I think the judge summed it up quite well.
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/...lysentence.pdf

Sephiroth 27-08-2025 10:48

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36201721)
She pleaded guilty to the offence of distributing material with the intention of stirring up racial hatred.

I think the judge summed it up quite well.
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/...lysentence.pdf

Might she have been mis-advised by her legal team?

Carth 27-08-2025 10:57

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36201714)
I don't know. She was inciting people to commit a murderous act of burning down a building full of migrants. Do you not consider that serious enough to warrant a jail sentence?

There's that vague word 'inciting' again.

Up there near the top of the list of deliberately anomalous and obfuscating words and phrases such as:

Potentially
Up To
As Little As
May Possibly
Could Eventually

Hugh 27-08-2025 14:48

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36201722)
Might she have been mis-advised by her legal team?

No - she appealed under those grounds, and lost…

Pierre 27-08-2025 15:12

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36201731)
No - she appealed under those grounds, and lost…

She was badly advised.

She appealed, in front of a judge not a jury.

Other similar cases indicate, in front a jury of people that believe hurty words are not something to be jailed for, and not a politicised judge.

She would have got off. I wouldn't have found her guilty over a tweet she deleted written in a fit of emotion, a woman that had experienced losing her own child, after 3 children brutely stabbed to death and several more injured.

Would you have found her guilty? Don't worry you don't have to answer and side step another question.

We're going over old ground anyway.

But to believe, there were several people sitting looking at twitter, who read that tweet and then thought, "She has spoken, she has given me a direct order, I must go and make a few molotov's"

laughable and would remove any agency from such individual.

Anyway, like I say, we've done this, we know where we all stand and it's the lovely lefties that seem to be all "authoritarian"...funny that.

OLD BOY 27-08-2025 16:23

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36201719)
Who was she inciting exactly?

I refer you to a previous post, to you.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=1695

She was inciting violent racists in our society. Do you expect me to name them?

Would you take a different view if she was egging the crowd to do the same thing in the street?

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36201733)
She was badly advised.

She appealed, in front of a judge not a jury.

Other similar cases indicate, in front a jury of people that believe hurty words are not something to be jailed for, and not a politicised judge.

She would have got off. I wouldn't have found her guilty over a tweet she deleted written in a fit of emotion, a woman that had experienced losing her own child, after 3 children brutely stabbed to death and several more injured.

Would you have found her guilty? Don't worry you don't have to answer and side step another question.

We're going over old ground anyway.

But to believe, there were several people sitting looking at twitter, who read that tweet and then thought, "She has spoken, she has given me a direct order, I must go and make a few molotov's"

laughable and would remove any agency from such individual.

Anyway, like I say, we've done this, we know where we all stand and it's the lovely lefties that seem to be all "authoritarian"...funny that.

‘Hurty words’ are one thing. Her post went well beyond that.

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36201724)
There's that vague word 'inciting' again.

Up there near the top of the list of deliberately anomalous and obfuscating words and phrases such as:

Potentially
Up To
As Little As
May Possibly
Could Eventually

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...glish/inciting

The meaning is very clear.

Pierre 27-08-2025 16:54

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36201738)
She was inciting violent racists in our society. Do you expect me to name them?

It would help yes.

If I was to send out a tweet that said, I think the UK should nuke Pakistan. Am I inciting violence and just becuase i send out that tweet do you think a general somewhere will think, my god yes...we should nuke Pakistan, I'll get right on it.

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Would you take a different view if she was egging the crowd to do the same thing in the street?
Here you make a great point. If she was on the street in front of a crowd with a loudspeaker, whipping them up and saying lets go burn down a hotel.

Yes, that is different, (which is actually not too different from what Ricky Jones did, and he was cleared by a jury)


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‘Hurty words’ are one thing. Her post went well beyond that.
How so?


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