Cable Forum - The Chronicles of Rishi

LONDON LETTER/Rachel Donnelly: Awkward questions are again being asked about Labour's big money donors. The suspicion, which began in the early days of the Blair government with the Formula One affair, that industry figures waive their chequebooks and eventually secure special treatment has been revived.

Not only did the scene of Labour's first scandal come back to haunt them this week with fresh claims about Number 10's involvement with the Formula One boss in 1997 but the question of state funding for political parties is back on the political agenda.

Mr Blair is reportedly unconvinced of the argument for state funding. But on Monday two of his most senior colleagues, the Deputy Prime Minister, Mr John Prescott, and the Home Secretary, Mr David Blunkett, gave state funding their support after what some commentators described as Labour's "damaging entanglement" with several business donors over the past few months.

The charge at Labour's door - that government contracts and favourable treatment for big business follows on from donations to the Labour Party - returned at the weekend after it was revealed that drugs company, Powderject, had won a contract to supply the NHS with 20 million smallpox vaccines following a £500,000 donation to Labour from Powderject's boss, Mr Paul Drayson.

ianch99

12-03-2024 17:21

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171924)

I doubt it'll ever stop.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/red-...nors-1.1085500

Only went back 22 years to find this :) It is not that both sides have some dodgy donors, it is the amount of them on the Tory side. Let's be honest that is how the Tory funding model works. It is not just money, it is power & influence. Look at the PPE corruption scandal, they did it in plain sight with no real comeback (as yet).

mrmistoffelees

12-03-2024 19:04

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171924)

I doubt it'll ever stop.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/red-...nors-1.1085500

Your attempt at justification rather than condemnation speaks volumes about you as a person.

Had a Muslim/islamic donor made those comments about your beloved John Redwood you would be screaming from the rooftops about extremism

Sephiroth

12-03-2024 19:11

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36171941)

Thanks for the personal attack. I was only providing balance.

Russ	12-03-2024 19:14

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171942)

Thanks for the personal attack. I was only providing balance.

Comparing something that occurred a quarter of a century ago to things that persistently happened over the past 4 years is hardly “balance”.

Sephiroth

12-03-2024 19:22

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36171943)

Comparing something that occurred a quarter of a century ago to things that persistently happened over the past 4 years is hardly “balance”.

It is when Labour was the previous government. As I said in my post:,

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I doubt it'll ever stop

mrmistoffelees

12-03-2024 19:24

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171942)

Thanks for the personal attack. I was only providing balance.

Statement of fact not a personal attack, tell me I’m wrong ?

Sephiroth

12-03-2024 19:30

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36171945)

Statement of fact not a personal attack, tell me I’m wrong ?

Obviously wrong and obviously nasty.

mrmistoffelees

12-03-2024 19:33

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171946)

Obviously wrong and obviously nasty.

So why not state that ? Rather than your first attempt being justification ?

Sephiroth

12-03-2024 19:41

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36171948)

So why not state that ? Rather than your first attempt being justification ?

Instead of nitpicking, you should recognise the point I'm making. Both parties reward their benefactors. Always have done, always will do.

Russ	12-03-2024 19:44

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171944)

It is when Labour was the previous government. As I said in my post:,

Let’s have another go.

How many of the Labour government you speak of are still in frontline politics?

How many of the **** party from 4 years ago are still in frontline politics?

Once you’ve compared the numbers *then* you’ll understand how that was a very poor analogy.

Sephiroth

12-03-2024 19:51

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36171950)

It's an institutional fact of politics. Everywhere.

Russ	12-03-2024 19:56

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171951)

It's an institutional fact of politics. Everywhere.

Ok, let’s see you back up your suggestion of Labour corruption with verifiable and established evidence.

Please don’t ask me to do the same of the **** party. It would be painfully embarrassing for their fans.

Sephiroth

12-03-2024 20:02

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36171952)

I've already provided the info regarding the Blair government period.

You know as well as I what politics and politicians are like with regard to patronage.

Hugh	12-03-2024 20:08

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171953)

I've already provided the info regarding the Blair government period.

You know as well as I what politics and politicians are like with regard to patronage.

Here we go again, with the old "everyone knows" Alleged Certainty fallacy…

:rolleyes:

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