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RizzyKing 22-05-2017 19:18
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Of course a balanced deal with the EU is preferable but they must know that if the deal isn't balanced we will walk away and go without a deal. Lately the EU and it's rhetoric have demonstrated why people want out the arrogance and silly games they are playing is not helping anything.

Osem 26-05-2017 18:05
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US President Donald Trump and UK Prime Minister Theresa May have reaffirmed plans to boost trade, including a post-Brexit trade deal, Downing Street says.
Mr Trump welcomed the UK's vote at a referendum nearly a year ago to leave the European Union.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40055027

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German weekly Der Spiegel quoted Mr Trump as saying in a meeting with European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker on Thursday that Germans were "very bad" on its car sales to the US, and vowed to "stop this".
Mr Juncker later described the media reports as exaggerated, and said it was "not true that the president took an aggressive approach" towards Germany.
Ahh... Juncker, the man reckons English is losing its relevance... :nutter:

1andrew1 28-05-2017 00:23
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The Sunday Times Pound’s fall ‘the worst devaluation in history’
Trade boom fails to arrive after sterling’s post-referendum plunge
Sterling’s Brexit-fuelled decline over the past year has been Britain’s “least successful” currency devaluation in history, an analysis of the latest growth figures has revealed.
The UK’s trade balance has worsened by 1.8% of GDP since the final quarter of 2015 — before worries over the EU referendum began to hurt the pound. Rising exports have been outstripped by an even faster rise in imports, according to Samuel Tombs of consultancy Pantheon Macroeconomics.
The lacklustre figures are particularly worrying given the upturn in the global economy at the start of this year. “The story in 2008-9 was that exports didn’t benefit much because our core market in Europe was suffering,” said Brian Hilliard, chief UK economist at Société Générale. “This time round, Europe is going gangbusters, so it’s pretty disappointing the trade picture is even worse.”
“So far, the depreciation has come with much greater costs than benefits,” said Tombs.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/b...tory-czkfwhznc (subscription only)

papa smurf 28-05-2017 09:30
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35900765)


thats nothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA5vMRRJWyQ

Osem 29-05-2017 10:44
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Clegg just can't stop talking rubbish can he - being a political irrelevance in the UK, he's no doubt doing his utmost to further ingratiate himself with the EU if that were possible.

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The UK could be "cut off" from an EU-wide crime and security database after Brexit, the Liberal Democrats have warned.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40080759

If he's really saying that the EU, at a time of huge problems with security and terrorism, won't alter its stance towards sharing crime related information in the common good he's just confirming what an intransigent, blinkered lot they are. Of course he'll never accept that because it's his belief that the UK should just subjugate itself to the Brussels bureaucrats just like he has.

RizzyKing 29-05-2017 13:13
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It's not very likely they will cut our access to that system given how much the UK contributes to it but if they do well then it's like cutting your nose off to spite your face, we have said all along that we would continue working together on intelligence and security matters as it's beneficial to both.

Osem 29-05-2017 13:19
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35900913)
It's not very likely they will cut our access to that system given how much the UK contributes to it but if they do well then it's like cutting your nose off to spite your face, we have said all along that we would continue working together on intelligence and security matters as it's beneficial to both.
Yet Clegg the Euro-loser insists on more Brexit scare stories. Is this the best he can come up with even now?

Pierre 29-05-2017 14:07
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The problem of Clegg and Farron is that their pitch as the pro-EU party isn't working.

In fact all the minor parties are going to suffer in this election.

For once Labour and Tory are not pale imitations of each other. There is a clear choice with no fighting over the centre ground. That means that both parties will increase their share of the vote at the expense of UKIP, Libdems, greens and snp.

Damien 29-05-2017 14:17
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We do seem to be going back to a two party system again (well, two parties + the SNP). In some ways it's bad for Labour because they could well increase their vote share whilst doing worse in Parliament giving the Tories the election but keeping Corbyn in the job.

The other thing the Liberal Democrats stand for, civil rights and privacy, is also increasingly unpopular. There was a poll the other day that said 68% of people support the mandatory breaking on encryption by technology companies and the hand over of user data to 'fight terrorism'.

1andrew1 29-05-2017 14:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35900913)
It's not very likely they will cut our access to that system given how much the UK contributes to it but if they do well then it's like cutting your nose off to spite your face, we have said all along that we would continue working together on intelligence and security matters as it's beneficial to both.
From my reading of the article, the point Nick Clegg has made is that countries accessing the system must adhere to EU data protection and privacy laws and to accept the rulings of the European Court of Justice. Theresa May has indicated she won't accept the latter so on paper this will disqualify the UK from use of the system.

Mr K 29-05-2017 16:11
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35900924)
From my reading of the article, the point Nick Clegg has made is that countries accessing the system must adhere to EU data protection and privacy laws and to accept the rulings of the European Court of Justice. Theresa May has indicated she won't accept the latter so on paper this will disqualify the UK from use of the system.
You appear to have actually read the article rather than the headline Andrew. This won't do at all ;)

Julian 29-05-2017 18:22
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Pretty sure the EU share information with countries like, say, the USA.

Last time I checked they weren't in the EU and are not bound by ECJ decisions.

1andrew1 29-05-2017 18:49
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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 35900966)
Pretty sure the EU share information with countries like, say, the USA.
Last time I checked they weren't in the EU and are not bound by ECJ decisions.
Last time I checked the USA did not have access to the system Nick Clegg is talking about, the Schengen Information System.
http://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/wha...tion-system_en
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/0...he_panopticon/

pip08456 29-05-2017 19:16
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SIS is not used as a counter terrorism tool, that is covered by different agreements.
[I]see here[/I]

The UK only has access to SIS
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within the context of police and judicial cooperation

Mr K 31-05-2017 08:39
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Tens of thousands of expat pensioners may return to the UK to use the NHS after Brexit - unless a deal can be done to let them keep receiving care abroad, a think tank has warned.
The Nuffield Trust estimates the cost of treating them - on home soil, rather than abroad - could double to £1bn.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40095822

That's all we need, immigrant pensioners back with their skin cancer and dodgy hips. Where are they going to house all these health tourists, that's what I want to know ? ;)

Meanwhile EU NHS staff head in the opposite direction, seems like a plan.... :rolleyes:


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