Originally Posted by Jong1 (Post 35872966)

I can't imagine Sky are the slightest bit bothered by the V6. It's the very least Virgin could possibly announced and IMO (I respect anyone who disagrees) a massive damp squib.

- Same size HDD as the TiVo, announced 6 years ago
- Same number of tuners as TiVo announced for their Roamio in 2013
- A relaunch of "the box for apps" idea that was tried and failed with the original TiVo 6 years ago
- 4K capable, yes, but that pretty much comes for free with any chipset in late 2016
- No 4K content that UHD TV owners will not have already. Not even a 4K version of Virgin Movies to go up against Amazon Video, Sky Store and others
- No multi-room strategy, other than pay for more full blown boxes
- A hobbled tablet for TV viewing, when tablet viewing has already been commonplace for years

I really can't see how there is anything here that is either "brilliant" or "game changing".

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35872972)

I think they're missing a trick with no 4K PAYG movies, this looks like something easier to pull off than a deal for Amazon, BT Sport or Sky Sports.

Originally Posted by RB2004 (Post 35872976)

That's rich of him to say that, don't want to turn this political but over 50% voted to leave... and instead of listening to that he wants to bankroll a campaign to overturn it.. wouldn't call that listening to the people.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35872982)

Have you seen the price of a 4K rental on Sky Q not something I'd ever bother with.

Originally Posted by Jong1 (Post 35872978)

Absolutely! Amazon and Sky already have them. Google Play will imminently. There is nothing stopping this, for movies Virgin have rights to, other than Virgin's lack of interest/investment.

It re-enforces the view that 4K is a tick-list item that came pretty much for free on the V6 and, as Virgin said themselves, they don't view 4K as important to their target customers. And it's hard to read that in any other way than Virgin accept premium TV customers are going to go to Sky anyway and they have more modest ambitions for their service. But I'm repeating myself, I'd better stop, or risk being thought a Sky plant!

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35872982)

Have you seen the price of a 4K rental on Sky Q not something I'd ever bother with.

Originally Posted by MisterQ (Post 35872968)

Sir Richard Branson just in the last few days saying how he attributes all of his success to listening more than speaking.

Does make you wonder about all the price rises:

According to the email, Virgin, the company founded and run by Sir Richard Branson, has pledged at least £25,000 towards the costs of the campaign. Other businessman, financial investors and campaign specialists are also involved.

Although there are contradictory claims.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7430396.html

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35872985)

So much negativity!
Virgin announced the Virgin Store yesterday, although it's not launching until February:

I would expect VM to test demand for 4k by putting any 4k content in there, much like they did with 3D.

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35872985)

So much negativity!
Virgin announced the Virgin Store yesterday, although it's not launching until February:

I would expect VM to test demand for 4k by putting any 4k content in there, much like they did with 3D.

Originally Posted by Jong1 (Post 35872990)

Yes, because for the reasons listed, this product is anything but game changing. I defy anyone to argue differently! "OK", maybe, but not worthy of any hype.

Regarding 4K download, I'm sure something will come in time, but lack of any mention at the big launch of a "game-changing" 4K box is just.....weird!

I genuinely hoped Virgin had something up their sleeves and there would be something in the announcement that went beyond the leaked info we had already seen. Sadly, there was nothing.

Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35872916)

You can use both IR and Bluetooth remotes with it.