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Streaming fans look away now! Apple rules itself out of Premier League rights. Main reason is they're not global.
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Credit to Phunkenstein at the start of the year. When this rumour first came out, he said that Apple only bid for global rights. |
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Someone at the Premier League will be crying into their beer tonight that Apple have gone public so they can’t repeat the “stalking horse” strategy. Although Sky saw through it anyway last time there actually was an auction.
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What headlines can we expect to see being pushed out there? DAZN runs the rulebook over ViaSport UK and hints at big bid for Premier League Rights. Insiders detail how they've learnt from their experience in Italy and are ready to give cash-starved footy fans what they want. Saudi owners of Newcastle United considering launch of £15pm Football Streaming Service. But the 3pm kick-off ban must go! GB News' billionaire owners Legatum in surprise swoop for ViaSport UK assets. Insiders talk of a rebrand to GB Sports and taking the fight to Sky with record-breaking bid for Premier League rights. :D |
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Oh I’m sure the League knew an Apple bid was fanciful. Just if it’s not said out loud do other bidders get spooked and bid more.
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Now we know Viaplay are exiting the UK market, what’ll be the fate of their sports rights? Some individual competitions might put their rights back up to tender, but the likes of Sky and TNT could swoop for the rights. DAZN are struggling in the UK, so I can’t see them getting anything.
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The thing is all of their rights are small beer, so if Sky were interested they’d have got them first time round.
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For TNT and Sky, those rights would result in increased costs with only very few additional subscribers.
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With the struggles with Viaplay I can see beIN Sports dipping there toes into the UK market ahead of the forthcoming Premier League rights by acquiring them.
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They do have a very good streaming service (ToD) which is in the MENA region and is expanding to Turkey. US$14 for all the EPL and Championship League. |
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I’d be taking that with a huge pinch of salt. Ewen Cameron is a useless radio hack up here.
The rights aren’t available unless Viaplay sub-licence them (if they’re even allowed) and someone pays to keep the lights on at Viaplay. If they revert to UEFA it’ll be an auction for the lot which BBC Scotland would be a million miles from affording. |
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The i newspaper reports DAZN to bid for Premier League rights.
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I'm not sure I'd be that quick to mock DAZN's interest here... to me they still feel like the wild card in the next round.
I think their portfolio in other countries, especially Italy where they have all of Serie A and Germany where they have a healthy chunk of Bundesliga and most of the UCL suggests that they'll be willing to table a significant bid for a package (or packages) if they need it... and I think the reality is that if they don't get anything out of the next PL auction, their UK business is pretty much done. I think now that we know Viaplay are gone and Apple aren't seemingly interested, it sort of lays the table for the incumbents to retain though in what way remains to be seen - I think the dream of Amazon owning "ALL DA FOOTY FOR 7.99" (if I was talking like I was on Football Twitter) is not going to happen... they didn't bite for Serie A in the domestic market, they didn't go all on UCL here and in Italy which indicates to me you'll see them maybe going for a top pick regular weekly game which seems in sync with everything they're doing in sport right now being small but high end... and I don't know what TNT will do though I could see them trying to keep a weekly game again to supplement their Euro coverage Honestly I think with that huge EFL deal I could see Sky abandoning Saturday completely and going all in on getting Super Sunday and MNF only. I actually think them maybe reducing their overall spend and tonnage might be interesting to see... It all depends on how many games do go up for tender and what those packages look like but I'm not sure I'm that quick to count DAZN out yet... though I also think the incumbents will be very much on the ball if they do enter the fray. |
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DAZN already have EPL rights in several overseas regions - so would not actually be new to the game.
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Another option could be Sky or Comcast buying Viaplay and rebranding there channels as NBC Sports to get there name in the UK similar to what ESPN did. |
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NBC Sports don't even have any regular channels in the US anymore. Most of the stuff moved to Peacock or is stream via their apps.
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NBCSN shut down on 31st December 2021 with Sports moving elsewhere including to USA Network and Peacock.
It's been driving the growth of Peacock , although it might partly why Peacock continues to lose money. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/27/nbcu...th-sports.html |
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Until they fix the lag that can be more than 30 seconds at times, then I wouldn't subscribe to streaming for live football.
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You may not have a choice - in the US nearly all live sport is now streaming services.
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Most Premier League Matches seem be shown only on Peacock , with select premier league matches shown on NBC and USA Network.
At the end of last season some Premier League matches were shown on Syfy, CNBC and Bravo. |
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They showed a selection of games across the NBC owned channels on the last day of the season.
At 3pm on a Saturday one game is on a regular channel (usually NBC) and the rest are streaming on Peacock. They usually have a game from each time slot on a regular channel - but as there are no sports channels anymore with NBC they tend to be on NBC or USA Network. Occasionally other sports events at same time mean other NBC owned channels may show EPL. They also get some games in 4K - but those are always the same as the UK offering. Quote:
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I don’t think they’ve (yet) shown a 4K game.
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There are usually 2-3 4K games each week in the US - but none on Peacock. Peacock have only recently started live 4K sport(device dependent).
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I'm not sure 5.1 audio is that important from a football match. :)
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Any idea on the La Liga rights for this coming season? Will it stay with via ?
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The original Premier/Viaplay/ITV deal runs to 2025.
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Entertainingly, you can still subscribe to Viaplay - including the annual subscription.
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DAZN wins Saudi Pro League Rights for one season
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Joshua v Helenius is the replacement PPV for Saturday night - DAZN subscribers will get it free.
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(RIP Eleven Sports, BT Sport, Setanta Sports, Premier Sports and BoxNation. Hello DAZN, Viaplay and TNT Sports.) |
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TNT Ultimate picture is stuttering in Leicester.
Aha, already reported on Twitter and Virgin Forum. |
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I didn't see it in today's EPL game.
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ITV have won back the rights to show England men's team matches from Channel 4
The deal from September 2024 to June 2028 will see ITV broadcast all friendlies, qualifiers and Nations League matches |
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I thought ITV already were showing the men's matches...oh you mean the pansies game with the wrong shaped (round) ball.
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Talk of 3pm ban being lifted from 2029.
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The average season ticket holder might get what? 3? Unless it’s being driven by the Championship clubs who could get more revenue from streaming their own games. |
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The argument against 3pm games being shown live on tv is that it would effect the match attendances at lower league clubs,but surely those that want to go to an actual game will go regardless? I've not been to a game of any sort for over 20 years simply because it got to costly.
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My local team have just gone up to the National League and show the 12.30pm and 5.30pm games live in the clubhouse.
I do think that having Manchester United or Liverpool on tv at 3pm on a Saturday would hit my local teams gates with people staying at home - especially on a wet or cold day. There are plently on non-3pm Saturday time slots available to the EPL. Once you drop of of the EFL and EPL - remember that many of the players have non-football full-time jobs and have limited time to actually play games. Quote:
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NBA to move to TNT Sports starting this month!
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I'm guessing TNT sports contract with Virgin Media is up this summer based on my maths? I assume it'll no longer be in the Max package which some will be delighted at (but the bills wont go down anyway) and others will be annoyed at what will be like a £25 price hike to subscribe if they wanted it
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From memory, a TNT Sport subscription would be £18 on VM, Vince.
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Five packages of 42-65 matches each are available. Four packages can be awarded to one bidder. A record 270 matches are available.
Some predictions from Francois Godard of Enders Analysis on the Premier League TV rights, in The Sunday Times. 1. Sky will retain at least three of the five packages. It will be reluctant to cede one of its weekend slots, so could even try for four. 2. The greatest competition will be between TNT Sports and DAZN. TNT will try to hold on to its Saturday 12.30pm slot whilst DAZN will try and get some rights too but has a history of bidding sensibly. 3. Without the Premier League, TNT Sports would cease to be a premium service and would need to reduce its price. 4. In terms of other potential bidders, it is unlikely that Amazon will want to spend sufficiently to retain Premier League rights. YouTube is seen as a “long shot”. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d...tion-xwgf9bxsx |
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Personally I hope the Premier League rights are decided up between Sky and TNT but doubt it will work out like that.
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It’s mad that with all the streaming hyperbole over the years they are really looking at selling 30% more games for flatlining revenue. In the current climate that’s a massive real terms decrease regardless of how their PR teams (and favourable journalists) present it.
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So you could have a headline TV rights figure that's marginally more than the current figure. But in real terms, it could be substantially lower due to a combination of inflation, 30% more games and an extra year's rights. I've read elsewhere that the Premier League sees overseas TV rights as where its revenue growth is, not UK TV rights. |
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Be interesting to see the average cost per game across each of the packages and how it compares with roughly the £9m and £5m that Sky and BT paid respectively last time.
The new rights will absorb the Bargain Bucket rights Amazon took so can factor that in at a zero value once we see the new arrangement for those games. |
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The league are obviously running out of ideas in how to monetise the product short of selling every game, sticking a sizeable number of games in each package is clearly trying to avoid the scenario where Setanta left the market due to falling below the “one game a week” threshold considered necessary for a regular subscription.
But… if Sky take three (including the top games), TNT and DAZN one each of substantially weaker games essentially DAZN would cannibalise TNT’s customer base reducing the value of their rights. It’s not clear (from what I’ve read anyway) how these extra games on a Sunday (teams playing in Europe on a Thursday) will work. Will they be packaged so one broadcaster shows two or three games at once? Or will it be staggered. I’d imagine staggered but I doubt the average fan has the appetite for 4 or 5 games in different time slots when Sky have the cream of the crop anyway. It’s also a gamble to assume DAZN aren’t looking for a buyer or investor who might take a different view. |
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I really want the games to be on just the 2 platforms so I don't have to sub to a 3rd one when football is being shown,as is present when Prime video show matches.
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How would one watch DAZN on Virgin Media?
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The DAZN App is coming at some stage available on 'selected' Virgin Media set top boxes according to this press release.
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You could actually go to the games and not pay tv subs to anybody? It's the highest definition possible, :)
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TNT Sports have signed a multi-year deal to show 20 matches a season from the Allianz Premiership Women's Rugby.
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TNT sorted now it’s Sky Sports Ultimate UHD B42 area. Unwatchable
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BT are offering all four TNT Sports channels (and Eurosport and discovery+) for £1 for the first three months as a Black Friday deal:
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TNT Sports has agreed a deal with DAZN to sublicence the UEFA Women’s Champions League as well as the French, Spanish, and German top divisions of women’s football.
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