Cable Forum - General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)

It’s not really helping that you are not addressing my answers. I’ve already explained that Amazon is most likely to have been testing the waters this time around. This makes perfect sense. Why would they invest all that money without doing a trial run first?

I acknowledge what you have said about Sky’s additional services, but you haven’t commented on the fact that Amazon is essentially a retail business, so there is an opportunity there to link football subscriptions with sales and takeup of Amazon Prime.

As for broadband, is your comment actually admitting that the distribution of super-fast broadband actually has a way to go yet?

No, it's actually the vast majority of the way there - 95%.

I have acknowledged that Amazon could try to link it with their retail operation and pointed out it's a massive ask to turn that into hundreds of millions/billions in profits on the additional items. I've also pointed out that the rights they've got for next to nothing will let them hit the low hanging fruit negating the need for, and impact of, any future investment.

I think by "Why would they invest all that money without doing a trial run first?" what you mean to say is that £5bn or more is a huge amount of money to try out a fundamentally high risk and untested business model. If that is what you meant by that question then I'm happy to agree. It's a massive risk.

OLD BOY

24-08-2019 17:59

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36007329)

No, it's actually the vast majority of the way there - 95%.

I have acknowledged that Amazon could try to link it with their retail operation and pointed out it's a massive ask to turn that into hundreds of millions/billions in profits on the additional items. I've also pointed out that the rights they've got for next to nothing will let them hit the low hanging fruit negating the need for, and impact of, any future investment.

I think by "Why would they invest all that money without doing a trial run first?" what you mean to say is that £5bn or more is a huge amount of money to try out a fundamentally high risk and untested business model. If that is what you meant by that:walk: question then I'm happy to agree. It's a massive risk.

I’m going for a curry. Clearly, nothing will change. Everything remains the same. At least in your comfortable world. :walk:

jfman

24-08-2019 19:43

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I'm quite confident everything will change. However not as suddenly, or in the direction, you may think.

Raider999

24-08-2019 22:41

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The facts are that Amazon secured a trivial package of 2 riunds of matches that first round bids were not deemed sufficient for.

The fact no one has ever supplied details of this after sale suggests they didn't pay what EPL originally wanted.

If it were a minor game each week, I could accept they would get some idea how viable it would be. Unfortunately for them it is saturation coverage in 2 December mid-weeks, proving very little.

I for one will take a months free subs to get an idea (and watch for nothing) if I would subscribe if they did bid & get better packages next time round.

I will not subscribe to Amazon because of this, but I will get a better idea of if streaming is for me at no extra cost.

A win-win solution I would suggest.

OLD BOY

25-08-2019 00:17

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36007365)

That is true. But I would imagine that Amazon felt this bid would be useful for a number of reasons, including testing the likely take-up, assessing the issues with streaming premiership football and analysing customer feedback.

Where that all leads, we shall see.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36007348)

I'm quite confident everything will change. However not as suddenly, or in the direction, you may think.

Time flies, jfman.

denphone

25-08-2019 05:52

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36007372)

Where that all leads, we shall see.

It will lead to the road to nowhere but alas you seem to be having problems finding the route.;)

Maggy

25-08-2019 08:32

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Coming Soon to Virgin Media is the title of this thread. We seem to have wandered way off topic..So can we please get back to that topic?

Itshim

25-08-2019 11:19

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 36007385)

Coming Soon to Virgin Media is the title of this thread. We seem to have wandered way off topic..So can we please get back to that topic?

While I agree, given virgins lack of movement . Perhaps it's time to consign this thread to history ! :erm:

jfman

25-08-2019 11:50

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I thought it was established this was the absolute fantasy thread?

Itshim

25-08-2019 11:59

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36007396)

I thought it was established this was the absolute fantasy thread?

So true , guessing at best No mention of the sports link up by virgin Ireland .

Media Boy UK

25-08-2019 15:47

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RXTV on Twitter is reporting that "Ideal World and Create & Craft are preparing to launch in HD on satellite."

Media Boy HQ has found that Ideal World is broadcasting with an new logo.

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36007400)

So true , guessing at best No mention of the sports link up by virgin Ireland .

Here a mention.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2019...t-sports-deal/

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36007178)

Apparently, the VM stance on this is "no comment" and the Sky stance is "Yes, they'll be coming to VM".

Any link that confirm they will launch (We can't see any).

cheekyangus

25-08-2019 16:17

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I saw that a few days ago. Not seen any evidence it's coming to Cable yet though. Even the "mighty" QVC hasn't launched their HD versions on Cable.

OLD BOY

25-08-2019 16:25

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36007413)

RXTV on Twitter is reporting that "Ideal World and Create & Craft are preparing to launch in HD on satellite."

Media Boy HQ has found that Ideal World is broadcasting with an new logo.

God! Shopping channels! Is that the best we can be looking forward to?

What I am interested in is what additional on demand content we will be getting from Sky next year. That may or may not be quite significant.

Media Boy UK

25-08-2019 17:20

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36007424)

When you take away that well known Sky channel that only broadcast on Sky what other channel do YOU want Virgin to go after?

I would love Virgin to go after MTV CLASSIC other than that we cant think of any channel we want.

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36007420)

I saw that a few days ago. Not seen any evidence it's coming to Cable yet though. Even the "mighty" QVC hasn't launched their HD versions on Cable.

We did not see that - only log on today.

OLD BOY

25-08-2019 17:37

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36007429)

But not a shopping channel, for heaven's sake!

AMC would do for starters! :D

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