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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

Her 5mins were up a long time ago.

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BBC News - Israeli forces kill 67 Palestinians seeking aid in northern Gaza
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8rp62480r3o

If this was any other country we'd have at least kicked the ambassador out of the UK. Instead we turn a blind eye.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36199611)

What - like we kicked the Russian ambassador out of the UK, did we?

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36199611)

What your post, intentionally, omits from the headline is…….

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Hamas-run ministry says

Hamas = ISIS. You are just a Hamas supporter / terrorist sympathiser

If you love Islamist terrorism so much, go over there, and let us know how you get on.

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36199621)

Hamas = ISIS. You are just a Hamas supporter / terrorist sympathiser

If you love Islamist terrorism so much, go over there, and let us know how you get on.

Read it in the Torygraph if you want old chap.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...tine-hostages/

Even they've seen the light of some of biggest war crimes this century. History is not going to judge those that turned a blind eye well.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36199623)

Read it in the Torygraph if you want old chap.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...tine-hostages/

Even they've seen the light of some of biggest war crimes this century. History is not going to judge those that turned a blind eye well.

I hope no one claims that's the mouthpiece of Isis too! And although The Telegraph has reporters in Israel, it would be unable to take up Pierre's suggestion to Mr K to go to Gaza as reporters are banned.

History won't be kind to those who gave Netanyahu cover. Besides the death, destruction and suffering themselves, they're acting as a powerful recruiting sergeant for terrorists.

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The UN has documented a rapid increase in the frequency of fanatical social media posts, and an academic paper found “significant peaks in extremism scores” on social media “that correspond to real-life events, such as the IDF’s bombings of al-Quds Hospital and the Jabalia refugee camp”.

All this corroborates what senior Israeli sources told me in February: that terrorist networks are replacing dead Hamas fighters at a rate of five to one. At the time, it sounded a realistic appraisal. Now, after five more months of destruction, I suspect it will prove to be a dire underestimate. A British security source told Reuters that the Gaza war is “likely to become the biggest recruiter for Islamist militants since 2003”. The International Centre for Counter-Terrorism warned that such conditions are “active incubators for the next generation of extremist operatives”.

https://www.thetimes.com/comment/col...pped-7fdp6x0vk

As the paper points out, Israel could have reacted on 8 October 2023 in a restrained manner. Not only would it continued to enjoy global support but it would have led to rapprochement with Saudi Arabia which Iran dreads.

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Looks like Trump is getting fed up with Netanyahu's actions in Syria

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‘He bombs everything all the time’: US said fuming at ‘madman’ Netanyahu after Syria strikes

White House reportedly views actions as harming Trump peace efforts, calls PM ‘child who just won’t behave’; Jerusalem tried explaining need to defend Druze, Israeli official says

The White House is alarmed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s decisions in Syria, multiple officials in US President Donald Trump’s administration were quoted Sunday as saying, branding the premier a “madman” and “a child who just won’t behave.”

“Bibi acted like a madman. He bombs everything all the time,” a White House official was cited as saying by the Axios news outlet, using the premier’s nickname. “This could undermine what Trump is trying to do.”

Israel began carrying out strikes on Syrian troops rolling into Sweida on Tuesday after local government forces were accused of killing scores of people in the Druze city of Sweida, and on Wednesday the IDF struck key buildings in Damascus.

The feeling is that every day there is something new. What the ****?” said a second senior US official after an Israeli tank shell hit a church in Gaza, killing three people, in what the IDF says was a mistake.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/a-chil...syria-strikes/

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Reports also noted that

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The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said that it had "fired warning shots" to remove "an immediate threat". It disputed the number of reported deaths.

Surely the point of "Warning Shots" is not to kill anyone ?

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36199630)

Reports also noted that

Surely the point of "Warning Shots" is not to kill anyone ?

Indeed. Suggests they were more than warning shots.

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So Israel is out of ideas so everyone is being sent in to offer assistance.

Iran backed Hamas believe in a cousin of prophet Mohammad whereas the rest of the world believe prophet Mohammad being the last prophet. I'm not all that educated in Islam. I have no idea how Hamas will react to further influence in the area. They already rejected Trumps revolution, that grand theft auto promo lol

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-isra...atest-13398805

I find it embarrassing the desperation. Who is anybody to play God in this situation.

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Hamas are Sunni, which is the majority sect of Islam which does not believe the faith has, or requires, a hereditary spiritual leader. Iran is Shia, which does. But Iran also believes in apocalyptic terms that the West is a decadent force of Satan, which has bankrolled Israel and forced its establishment on lands that rightfully belong to Muslims, and it has funded and trained Hamas to oppose Israel and the West for those reasons.

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Thank you for that. It's strange that Hamas and Iran find common ground when religious beliefs take presidence.

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36200260)

Thank you for that. It's strange that Hamas and Iran find common ground when religious beliefs take presidence.

Iran would say “My enemy’s enemy is my friend”.

BTW, what’s wrong with Hamas releasing the remaining hostages?

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Benjamin Netanyahu says that Israel intends to take control of all of Gaza.

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-late...#liveblog-body

Bye Gaza.

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Clear them all out, they were given Gaza and screwed it up.

Ship them all over to the West Back.

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36200642)

Clear them all out, they were given Gaza and screwed it up.

Ship them all over to the West Back.

I'm afraid that Netanyahu has territorial ambitions for that area too.

Maybe ship them over to Yorkshire? After all, I'm sure none of them will bear a grudge to the West.