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pip08456 19-04-2022 17:21

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36119473)
It's not the breaking of the rules that is the big issue here, it's the honesty to Parliament. Parliament (the legislative) exists as a check on the actions of the executive (Government) along with the courts. If the executive and its' officers are not honest to Parliament, then the link between the two is broken, breaking the (unwritten) constitution of the country.

Putting a hat on with 'Hyperbole' written on it, an executive pillar that does not and will not answer to the legislative and judicial pillars is a dictatorship

Johnson could quite rightly say no rules were broken if that is what he was advised at the time. That is not him misleading Parliament but him being misled by his advisors.

The "rule" allegedly being broken is the one to stop the spread of the virus with different people meeting. These "parties" were allegedly with people who worked in close contact daily, not much chance of increasing spread there.

The only thing bad here is the Optics and the media frenzy.

BenMcr 19-04-2022 17:40

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36119481)
The only thing bad here is the Optics and the media frenzy.

So not the law breaking and lying which has generated the fines and resignations?

Carth 19-04-2022 17:44

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36119480)
Others have had been called out for lying when needed

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33701595



Maybe if the current government weren't doing it so regularly, then people wouldn't be so vigorous as they are.

Strange that.

You grabbed an 'example' from 7 years ago (which coincidentally also concerns a Tory) and is a thread with a mere 9 pages . . over 100 fewer than this one :D

Damien 19-04-2022 17:46

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36119481)
Johnson could quite rightly say no rules were broken if that is what he was advised at the time. That is not him misleading Parliament but him being misled by his advisors.

The "rule" allegedly being broken is the one to stop the spread of the virus with different people meeting. These "parties" were allegedly with people who worked in close contact daily, not much chance of increasing spread there.

.

These are laws his Government implemented and which he went on TV multiple times to tell people to obey. If he really didn't understand them then he is grossly incompetent.

papa smurf 19-04-2022 17:47

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
The PM has repeatedly apologised for this trivial matter, i can see no point in continuing to whine about it, there is only so much mileage in a slice of cake at work with your workmates.

BenMcr 19-04-2022 17:50

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36119484)
You grabbed an 'example' from 7 years ago (which coincidentally also concerns a Tory) and is a thread with a mere 9 pages . . over 100 fewer than this one :D

I'd go back further but the Tories have been in power for 12 years so seems a bit pointless.

And as the Theresa May years were mostly about Brexit and there is still a massive thread going on about that, I thought I'd go back before then.

Carth 19-04-2022 17:56

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
You can't find anything (apart from Brexit probably) that knocks the Government for over 100 pages?


Looks like I was right then . . . "I can't recall people on this forum doing that so vigorously over the years"

Give it up lads, you're making yourselves look stupid by chasing the media outrage over this ;)

BenMcr 19-04-2022 17:56

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36119486)
The PM has repeatedly apologised for this trivial matter, i can see no point in continuing to whine about it, there is only so much mileage in a slice of cake at work with your workmates.

It wasn't a 'no cake' law he broke.

Hugh 19-04-2022 18:00

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36119486)
The PM has repeatedly apologised for this trivial matter, i can see no point in continuing to whine about it, there is only so much mileage in a slice of cake at work with your workmates.

Don’t worry, there are lots of other comestibles and libations yet to be revealed…;)

Carth 19-04-2022 18:00

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36119486)
The PM has repeatedly apologised for this trivial matter, i can see no point in continuing to whine about it, there is only so much mileage in a slice of cake at work with your workmates.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36119489)
It wasn't a 'no cake' law he broke.

It saddens me to say it but, my opinion is that this is nothing to do with cake, nothing to do with a party, but everything to do with Boris . . the man who delivered Brexit.*





*apologies for mentioning that word again

Hugh 19-04-2022 18:00

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36119489)
It wasn't a 'no cake' law he broke.

They know - it’s just deflection…

1andrew1 19-04-2022 18:08

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36119491)
It saddens me to say it but, my opinion is that this is nothing to do with cake, nothing to do with a party, but everything to do with Boris . . the man who delivered Brexit.*

*apologies for mentioning that word again

Fortunately, some of the keenest Brexiters on this forum haven't fallen for that line and are able to understand the importance of this issue.

Carth 19-04-2022 18:13

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36119493)
Fortunately, some of the keenest Brexiters on this forum haven't fallen for that line and are able to understand the importance of this issue.

Just my opinion Andrew, formed by my own thoughts and not due to the ongoing media circus many people seem to follow like it's a religion

Hugh 19-04-2022 18:30

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36119495)
Just my opinion Andrew, formed by my own thoughts and not due to the ongoing media circus many people seem to follow like it's a religion

So, you’re not influenced, but you believe others are?

OK…

Damien 19-04-2022 18:32

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36119495)
Just my opinion Andrew, formed by my own thoughts and not due to the ongoing media circus many people seem to follow like it's a religion

Well you're loyal, no one can accuse you otherwise.


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