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Anypermitedroute 27-08-2016 22:26

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
So you get attack because of your nationality and your called "thinned skin"? it still amazes me how people start with the line "I'm not racist but..." And then proceed to make a ridiculous racist statement.

Brexit vote exposes the ugly truth that Britain is a lot more racist than it cares to believe

martyh 27-08-2016 22:29

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35856256)
So you get attack because of your nationality and your called "thinned skin"? it still amazes me how people start with the line "I'm not racist but..." And then proceed to make a ridiculous racist statement.

Brexit vote exposes the ugly truth that Britain is a lot more racist than it cares to believe

Who's attacked you ? and there was nothing racist about Rizzy's post

Thanks for making my point though

nomadking 27-08-2016 22:31

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
How many of the cases of "racism" are where 2 people get into an argument and certain words are used? It seems something is deemed racist if certain words are used. The fact that the argument started because of the racist who didn't use certain words is not counted.

Anypermitedroute 27-08-2016 22:37

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35856257)
Who's attacked you ? and there was nothing racist about Rizzy's post

Thanks for making my point though

Never said it was, it was an observation

when someone judges someone based on the colour or creed, it's racism. Not thinned skin

Stating that one is not a racist doesn't make that person not a racist or give a free pass to make racist comments

So wasn't making your point at all

RizzyKing 27-08-2016 23:31

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
So there are no over sensitive people out there looking to be offended on behalf of others, you really haven't observed this growing phenomenon over the last decade at least. I honestly couldn't care less what people think about me I've already admitted before that i probably am more racist now then i was before and i don't say things just for popularity i express my honest personal opinions and if applicable will include experiences that have contributed to forming my opinions. There are people in our society whose skin is too damned thin and there are people who feel they have the right to a life of zero criticism despite often being the first to criticise others those are what i call precious.

None of which invalidates any points I've made.

martyh 28-08-2016 09:41

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35856260)
Never said it was, it was an observation

when someone judges someone based on the colour or creed, it's racism. Not thinned skin

Stating that one is not a racist doesn't make that person not a racist or give a free pass to make racist comments

So wasn't making your point at all

Yes you did you quoted Rizzy in your post and your post 100% proved my point and Rizzy's about people jumping on the racism bandwagon because they feel that the colour of their skin gives them some kind of right to never be criticised

Osem 28-08-2016 10:20

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
Yes it's big business being offended on behalf of others. Some people even feel the best way to show their anti-prejudice credentials is to be prejudiced against their own. Odd that...

Anyway,

Quote:

Germany expects up to 300,000 migrants to arrive in the country this year, the head of its Federal Office for Migration and Refugees said.
Frank-Juergen Weise told the Bild am Sonntag paper that his office would struggle if more people came.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37207800

What's he worried about? We all know that migrants are a net benefit so he ought to be clapping his hands with glee and campaigning to stop any deportations I'd have thought. The more the merrier surely? Germany's clearly going to be a huge beneficiary thanks to Merkel...

Oddly though:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rant-challenge

Chrysalis 28-08-2016 18:45

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
What I would like to see is proper news coverage to question the government properly.

e.g. the NHS budget rising with inflation is considered not a cut. When in reality it is a cut because as the population grows the budget per head drops, so a stable budget has to match inflation "and" population growth.

RizzyKing 28-08-2016 23:56

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
We cannot increase budgets in relation to population when we have no practical way to control the increase in population where is all this money meant to come from.

Taf 29-08-2016 00:22

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
Sweden reports half of their immigrants are too under-educated to work so remain unemployed. And many are not even trying to find work or better themselves.

Are they surprised?

Osem 29-08-2016 09:44

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35856409)
Sweden reports half of their immigrants are too under-educated to work so remain unemployed. And many are not even trying to find work or better themselves.

Are they surprised?

That can't be right though because we know they're a net benefit.

:rolleyes:

Anypermitedroute 29-08-2016 17:57

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
Ok, so I know what your going to say but hear me out please :)

Is there a danger that whatever report they have used has done the "BBC thing" and included refugees under their terms of migrants

I have not seen this report so cannot confirm what the intention was, who it's by, and for what purpose. This could be classic daily express style attack or an official Swedish government which includes all immigrants both refugees and economic, I am also conscious that Sweden took I believe 2nd most in last year in terms of war conflicted area

(I should point I am doing that last star from memory so I could be challenged on that but as I'm on holiday in scilly I'm not intending todo research either :) )

Taf 29-08-2016 18:13

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35856519)
I have not seen this report so cannot confirm what the intention was, who it's by, and for what purpose.


One of the reports...


http://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/kl...asylkris%3Anyh

Anypermitedroute 29-08-2016 18:34

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
Thank you Taf

Osem 30-08-2016 13:11

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
Quote:

About 6,500 migrants have been rescued off Libya, the Italian coastguard says, in one of the biggest operations of its kind to date.
Some 40 co-ordinated rescue missions took place about 20km (12 miles) off the Libyan town of Sabratha, it added.
Video footage shows migrants, said to be from Eritrea and Somalia, cheering and some swimming to rescue vessels, while others carried babies aboard.
On Sunday more than 1,100 migrants were rescued in the same area.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37216881

Quote:

However, migrants from African countries such as Eritrea and Somalia as well as west African nations such as Nigeria and the Gambia are continuing to attempt the crossing from Libya to Italy.
Some are seeking economic opportunities in Europe - others are fleeing war, instability or authoritarian governments.
About 106,000 people have arrived in Italy so far this year while 2,726 have died in the attempt, according to the International Organization for Migration (IOM).
The IOM says there are a further 275,000 migrants in Libya waiting to travel.
Overall, about 284,000 migrants have entered Europe so far this year through various transit routes across Africa, Asia or the Middle East.
I wondering what the authorities are planning to do with those they decide are migrating for purely economic reasons. I can't imagine someone who's been dragged from the Med. being particularly happy about being 'rescued' then sent back. Poverty is of course awful but are we really going down the route of using that as a reason to offer refuge because if we are, there's countless millions more people who'll qualify and might well decide to make the same trip. At what point will it stop do you reckon?...


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