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That’s semantics. There’s basic expectations - like not summarily executing paramedics. My list isn’t exhaustive.

Can you - without qualification - criticise this one Israeli action?

mrmistoffelees

07-04-2025 21:00

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36194195)

What law, international or otherwise, says any military response to an act of war needs to be “proportionate”?

The Law of Armed Conflict and International Humanitarian Law

Pierre

07-04-2025 21:39

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36194196)

That’s semantics. There’s basic expectations - like not summarily executing paramedics. My list isn’t exhaustive.

Can you - without qualification - criticise this one Israeli action?

The only “law” in war, is to win……..

And a “win” can have many definitions.

Total victory is preferable, but rarely achievable.

Israel, is pursuing total victory, as is their right.

Would I “criticise” Israel, yes..of course. Happy to do so on various fronts. It’s a low bar.

Would i “condemn” them? No.

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36194197)

The Law of Armed Conflict and International Humanitarian Law

I’m sure when HAMAS comply with that law, Israel would be more than happy to.

Or do you think only Israel is bound by that law?

mrmistoffelees

07-04-2025 22:43

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36194201)

Sigh, not this old nonsense again. When it comes to a time of war the actions of one party don’t legally justify the actions of another party

And stop trying to put words into peoples mouths, your modus operandi is easily guessable, tiresome and repetitive

Sephiroth

07-04-2025 22:54

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What is proportionate to roasting babies?

https://www.reuters.com/world/nato-m...ck-2023-10-12/

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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office also released on social media a picture of a dead infant in a pool of blood and the charred body of a child, part of an apparent effort to stoke global anger against the Gaza militants over Saturday's attack.
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Blinken, who flew into Tel Aviv earlier on Thursday, told reporters he was shown photographs and videos of a baby riddled with bullets, soldiers beheaded and young people burned alive in their cars or hideaways.

jfman

08-04-2025 05:13

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36194207)

What is proportionate to roasting babies?

https://www.reuters.com/world/nato-m...ck-2023-10-12/

Not roasting more?

Sephiroth

08-04-2025 08:55

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36194211)

Not roasting more?

Gotcha! (Don't misunderstand me).

jfman

09-04-2025 23:14

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https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/09/m...tam/index.html

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Netanyahu met Trump seeking wins on tariffs and Iran. He returns to Israel empty-handed

Sound like the broken clock was right this time.

1andrew1

09-04-2025 23:29

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36194358)

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/09/m...tam/index.html

Sound like the broken clock was right this time.

He's had a bit of luck today in that his 17% tariff will now be cut to 10%, in line with everyone else except China. But it must have been a bit of shock not to get special treatment.

Sephiroth

09-04-2025 23:31

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Maybe it was Netanyahu that persuaded Trump to pause the tariffs.

Paul	10-04-2025 01:32

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36194361)

Maybe it was Netanyahu that persuaded Trump to pause the tariffs.

or maybe all the people who finance him, whose fortunes started to take a battering.

jfman

10-04-2025 01:43

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36194370)

or maybe all the people who finance him, whose fortunes started to take a battering.

The problem with 2024 Trump is all the “non-traditional” backers are up there with anyone he can solicit for more.

In many markets there will be more to be made in the next 4 days than the next 4 decades as the gambling goes off the chart.

Chris

09-06-2025 10:40

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St Greta of Thundberg has been intercepted by the Israeli navy before getting anywhere near Gaza, as widely predicted. The ~~narcissists~~ activists on board the good ship Madleen had all recorded dramatic ‘in case I don’t make it’ videos which were released after they were arrested and taken to Israel overnight.

The IDF has, however, poured something of a dampener on their dramatic fireworks by releasing a photo of Greta grinning like the school kid she is while being handed a sandwich by one of her ‘captors’.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1749462022

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