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Sky almost certainly wouldn’t want it out there so far in advance in case it impacts take up of existing services. The date is probably ambitious too.

Yeah i think it'll come but not for a few years yet as the UK infrastructure isn't there yet.

RichardCoulter

24-09-2022 19:08

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36134860)

Credit to Onedirectional on dspy SKY moving to online only? "Sky has reportedly informed its trade suppliers that they will cease installing “new” satellite TV dishes on customer homes by the end of 2023, which is widely understood to reflect their increasing adoption of broadband internet based IPTV (video streaming etc.) delivery methods." https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...s-in-2023.html

Edit scrap that SKY have responded saying it's untrue.

A denial by Sky means nothing one way or the other. I remember them saying that the basic Sky channels were 'free and 'always would be'. I also remember them then saying that FTA channels had been scrambled because pay channels were the only way to provide quality programming and then subsequently put some of their channels onto Freeview!

I would take anything that Sky say either way with a pinch of salt.

OLD BOY

24-09-2022 20:08

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36134860)

Well, if true, it all seems to be part of the plan to convert terrestrial, satellite and cable channels to IPTV only. Add to that no guarantee that broadcast TV licences will be extended beyond the mid 2030s and you can see how all of this is panning out.

Chris

24-09-2022 20:51

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134883)

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not true … we will be selling Sky Q for the foreseeable future,” said a Sky spokesperson

Indeed, those of us who haven’t staked our reputations on a ridiculously narrow prediction of the future of TV can see exactly how this is panning out.

jfman

24-09-2022 21:03

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134883)

Well, if true, it all seems to be part of the plan to convert terrestrial, satellite and cable channels to IPTV only. Add to that no guarantee that broadcast TV licences will be extended beyond the mid 2030s and you can see how all of this is panning out.

What plan? Who is the owner/lead agency of said plan? Have Government or the regulator had input?

OLD BOY

24-09-2022 21:25

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36134898)

What plan? Who is the owner/lead agency of said plan? Have Government or the regulator had input?

Keep up, jfman. You heard it here first. :D

jfman

24-09-2022 21:26

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134904)

Keep up, jfman. You heard it here first. :D

You appear to have a misunderstanding of the word “plan”.

Legendkiller2k

25-09-2022 02:37

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134883)

Also you forgot to quote where i clearly edited it stating SKY responded saying it was untrue.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36134896)

Indeed, those of us who haven’t staked our reputations on a ridiculously narrow prediction of the future of TV can see exactly how this is panning out.

Funny thing is mate OB kinda forgot to include my edit in his quote where i stated SKY responded saying it was untrue, typical OB lol.

OLD BOY

25-09-2022 11:02

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36134915)

Also you forgot to quote where i clearly edited it stating SKY responded saying it was untrue.

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Funny thing is mate OB kinda forgot to include my edit in his quote where i stated SKY responded saying it was untrue, typical OB lol.

I didn't ignore it. This information appears to have leaked out and Sky is simply denying it so people won't be encouraged to think that satellite TV is ending, which would impact on customer take-up.

At least that's what it looks like to me. I guess we shall see with the fullness of time.

muppetman11

26-09-2022 12:57

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Been using the Virgin Media Stream device and so far it’s a great little device ,

A few little gripes

I’d like to see a continue watching section on the Home Screen as the Watchlist feature doesn’t take you to the latest episode you’ve watched.

I’d also like to see Netflix allow you to search its content from the Universal Virgin Search , I expect this isn’t anything Virgin can do until Netflix changes its stance.

Apple TV + , Discovery Plus would also be a welcome addition.

Phunkenstein

27-09-2022 08:11

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https://www.skygroup.sky/article/sky...way-to-get-sky

jfman

27-09-2022 08:37

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Atrocious news for the already drowning in debt traditional “streamers” that Sky are taking their one USP and bringing their economies of scale (and profits) with them.

OLD BOY

27-09-2022 09:01

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Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36135041)

https://www.skygroup.sky/article/sky...way-to-get-sky

I like the bit that says:

If you find something you love but want to watch it later, you can create a personal Playlist from apps and channels, both live and on demand. When you want to Playlist something, just click the ‘+’ on your remote and it’ll be saved in the cloud for whenever you’re ready to watch

So this means that you can, in fact, create a watchlist derived from different streamers on one central list.

If that is correct, it's exactly the kind of innovation I've been looking for. Hopefully, that idea will be utilised on all boxes soon.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36135044)

Atrocious news for the already drowning in debt traditional “streamers” that Sky are taking their one USP and bringing their economies of scale (and profits) with them.

I'm not sure how you make that out. You still pay for the streamers and here you can get them all in one place. It encourages people to use them more. The streamers would not have agreed to this if they thought it was a bad idea.

What do you mean by 'economies of scale' in this context? Surely, the economies of scale lie in the global reach of the streamers?

jfman

27-09-2022 09:19

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36135052)

What do you mean by 'economies of scale' in this context? Surely, the economies of scale lie in the global reach of the streamers?

No, economies of scale come from being able to take a fixed cost (like say, £5bn for Premiership football rights) and dilute it across a massive customer base (like 11 million customers in the UK and Ireland), paying a large amount of money (I’ve not seen Sky’s ARPU of late, but I’d guess £500+).

No “streamer” is at that scale in this, or any other, market. For the hypothetical streamer the cost of the rights isn’t fixed, it’s inherently variable as they’d need to buy up the rights in each additional territory with a customer base with ever diminishing interest.

TimeLord2018

28-09-2022 14:24

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Starzplay Rebrands As Lionsgate+ Internationally from tomorrow
https://variety.com/2022/tv/global/s...us-1235386607/

Lionsgate Says It’s Leaning Toward Spinning Off Studio, Not Starz

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Lionsgate is now looking at spinning off its studio business — rather than kicking out the Starz premium network and streaming business.

The company, in an SEC filing Wednesday, said that “Despite the volatile market environment” Lionsgate remains “on a path to separating our Starz and studio businesses.” However, Lionsgate is increasingly focused on divesting the studio side of the house.

Even after the separation of Starz and Lionsgate’s studio business, Hirsch added, “the Lionsgate brand will continue to be valuable to the ongoing success of our international platform.”

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/l...rz-1235386627/

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