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Sephiroth 07-10-2018 08:30

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I am an independent thinker who wants to leave the EU for reasons already given. The BBC appeared to me to be Remain biased.

denphone 07-10-2018 08:52

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Its the typical l don't agree with the BBC on certain subjects so they have to be biased.

Sephiroth 07-10-2018 09:30

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35965587)
Its the typical l don't agree with the BBC on certain subjects so they have to be biased.

Why should the BBC have a position on any topic? Their duty is to provide un-nuanced/un-biased reporting.

denphone 07-10-2018 09:38

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Why should the BBC have a position on any topic? Their duty is to provide un-nuanced/un-biased reporting.

And that is generally what they do but not according to some they are too left wing or too right wing but personally l think they have it just about right.

1andrew1 07-10-2018 09:45

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Why should the BBC have a position on any topic? Their duty is to provide un-nuanced/un-biased reporting.

That's an impossible approach and the danger of your approach is that you would have to give equal weighting to each side in content and terminology. An example: So ten minutes of interviews with the victims of a terror attack and ten minutes from the terrorists themselves. Except maybe we shouldn't call them terrorists as they want to be called freedom fighters and it would be biased if we did so.

Mick 07-10-2018 10:00

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Crikey are we still going on about the bloody BBC - time to move on I think!!!

OLD BOY 07-10-2018 10:22

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I think Robert Peston who has criticised Project Fear has somewhat more credibility than these people!

Interesting that you appear to think Robert Preston isn't biased when it comes to Brexit.

Sephiroth 07-10-2018 10:39

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That's an impossible approach and the danger of your approach is that you would have to give equal weighting to each side in content and terminology. An example: So ten minutes of interviews with the victims of a terror attack and ten minutes from the terrorists themselves. Except maybe we shouldn't call them terrorists as they want to be called freedom fighters and it would be biased if we did so.

it’s Brexit we are talking about. A deeply politically divisive subject. Bias has no place. Your exampe is ridiculous.

Angua 07-10-2018 10:50

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it’s Brexit we are talking about. A deeply politically divisive subject. Bias has no place. Your exampe is ridiculous.

Apart from the chap from Weatherspoons, a few others and the Brexit supporting MPs, there are a limited number to call on to counterbalance the remain opinions. Just having politicians can feel one sided.

Should all the staunch leave voters be dragged onto the BBC to articulate their views, without having the business or political acumen to back up their opinions?

Sephiroth 07-10-2018 11:32

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Apart from the chap from Weatherspoons, a few others and the Brexit supporting MPs, there are a limited number to call on to counterbalance the remain opinions. Just having politicians can feel one sided.

Should all the staunch leave voters be dragged onto the BBC to articulate their views, without having the business or political acumen to back up their opinions?

That’s plain silly. If the BBC can’t balance something they should say so beyond “the minister was unavailanle for comment”. They were/are biased towards Remain.

pip08456 07-10-2018 11:51

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Of course the BBC are remain biased they would lose future funding when we leave.

http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=84760

1andrew1 07-10-2018 12:18

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Interesting that you appear to think Robert Preston isn't biased when it comes to Brexit.

I've not said that but if you read what he has to say he's pretty thoughtful than most on the subject and beyond. He's certainly more balanced than an organisation that asks for money for Leave.EU on its website whilst denying it favours Brexit! :dunce: He's criticised Project Fear and the claims of the Leavers which many don't.

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Of course the BBC are remain biased they would lose future funding when we leave.

http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=84760

I think you would fail in convincing Andrew Neill on that!

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That’s plain silly. If the BBC can’t balance something they should say so beyond “the minister was unavailanle for comment”. They were/are biased towards Remain.

They were biased towards Leave and independent analysis has shown this. It's traditionally been weak in business matters labelling some to call it left wing and its weakness sprung apart in Brexit leading to the nickname Brexit Broadcasting Corporation.
If you get 99 economists stating that Brexit will case a reduction in GDP of 5% then it is not balance to get one economist on who says it will cause a reduction of 30% and one on that says it will cause an uplift of 5%. You have to take the balance of probability not give the floor to every nutter.

pip08456 07-10-2018 12:22

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I don't give a toss about Andrew Neill, he's entitled to his own opinions.;)

Hugh 07-10-2018 13:47

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Of course the BBC are remain biased they would lose future funding when we leave.

http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=84760

£20 million over 6 years, approx. £3.3 million per year, compared to an annual income/revenue of approx. £5 thousand million a year, so they are being influenced by a payment of 0.0666% of their annual income/revenue, or to put it another way, 5 hours worth of their annual income/revenue?

Sephiroth 07-10-2018 13:55

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IEA and YouGov find bias towards Leave at the BBC. The YouGov results are buried deep in statistical analysis but they conclude that Leave voters are more likely to,say “don’t know” as to a media outlet’s bias.


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