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Don't the other EU Countries have a much higher Unemployment rate? As a whole they are much higher than the UK.

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Vote LEAVE to Retain Human and Workers' Rights.
Vote LEAVE to be able to freely trade with whom we want.
Vote LEAVE to get back and retain control of our immigration.
Vote LEAVE to make our own decisions, laws and legislation.

I said before on here you don't need a trade agreement to trade with countries and someone said that was wrong. OK if that's true, we don't have a trade agreement with China at the moment so why when you go into a shop and buy something it says 'Made In China' on it.

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Not sure what you're getting at exactly. The French have set their standards above the EU minimum and therefore have room to cut back on their standards and still meet the EU ones. If they hadn't increased their standards and kept them at the EU minimum, but for some reason still had big unemployment problems there would be no option available to be able to drop below the EU level. Any standards have to be set at a level that can cope with the bad times. You can't increase standards, spending etc simply based on a few years of passing prosperity. Somebody should have told Gordon Brown that.

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And if ever a man made an arse of something it was him. However, We have a pretty high standard and could cut back if we had to. But it works. You still don't have to be in the EU to set standards.

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We do have a trade agreement with China - the 1985 EU-China Trade and Cooperation Agreement; since 2007, we (the EU) have been trying to re-negotiate it (these things take time...); At WTO level, the EU and China are part of the revision of the Information Technology Agreement (ITA) and both parties are currently engaged in the plurilateral negotiations on an Environmental Goods Agreement (EGA). Last but not least, both sides have launched negotiations for an EU-China Bilateral Investment Agreement (BIA). And there are some external factors that might have an important impact, such as the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).

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Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) is something we don't need nor have any benefit to us.

https://speakout.38degrees.org.uk/campaigns/851

There is no EU trade deal with the US yet trade still exisits between UK & US.

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And there is no reason to assume that will stop should we leave the EU

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Of course not Brian, same as other trade we have and the rest we can negotiate on our own.

The doomsayers say that our trade will fall, perhaps in the short term.

If the UK has products and services that countries want to buy then a deal will be done quickly.

Countries are no different to shoppers on the high street. They know what they want and where to buy it from.

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I was answering the statement about (apparently not having any) trade agreements with China...:dozey:

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Countries are completely different from shoppers on the high street - shoppers on the high street aren't trying to sell things to the shops and other customers, whilst countries are trying to sell/buy from each other, and undercut each other, and trying to get the best deal for their own services/industries.

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Shoppers were possibly the incorrect comparison. Trade between countries is basically the barter system.

I have this you want, you have that I want or that I can pass on to somone else. Let's do a deal

Simplistic explanation? -Yes

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That tone tells me you are referring to the Doctors' Dispute. Tory Policy has always been to bash the workers and the Unions. You only have to look back in history and the riots and lives that were lost to see that. If they tried forcing things on all workers there would be a revolution.

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What lives were lost?

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Typical EU trying, just before the referendum, to bribe the younger generation like Damien to vote to stay in the EU. Are there no depths these people won't sink to!!! :mad: :mad:

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;) :D

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Go back to the Industrial Revolution and see for yourself. Peterloo springs to mind.

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That's been on the cards for a while but you are right. If we leave then they will slap those charges back on so it is a bribe. The depths to which they will sink? Seems there is no limit really. Threatening that cancer research would lose money should we leave was one.

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Indeed and the country would be better off by about £50 bn. after we pay to trade with the EU. Is there any other country in the world that charge to trade with them?

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Not really. You go into a shop to buy something you want.
You trade with a country to do the same.

Just on a bigger scale.