Cable Forum - General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 3

looks like Sky have done the HD swap of the free to air HD channels for all customers with a sky HD box

BBC 1 HD is 101, BBC 2 HD 102 ect with the SD channels higher up the EPG can't be long till VM finally swap the channels round?

geordiechris

30-08-2014 13:47

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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35725262)

My Sky box is still showing the SD variant of BBC 1 on 101

DOT COTTON

30-08-2014 13:52

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an agent from VM told me today after the deal has expired BT sport will be included in the SKY sports seclection and cant be added as a stand alone.

Superblade7

30-08-2014 14:04

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Originally Posted by DOT COTTON (Post 35725272)

an agent from VM told me today after the deal has expired BT sport will be included in the SKY sports seclection and cant be added as a stand alone.

I think the agent is taking liberties with the truth there Dot. They aren't even halfway through their 3 year deal with VM so none of the CS agents (and maybe not even the management at this stage) will know what the future holds at the end of the current deal.

Plus there is no way either Sky or BT would allow their channels to be sold together as a package as they are rivals.

DOT COTTON

30-08-2014 14:09

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Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35725279)

I maybe picked him up wrong he was in the indian office so he was hard to understand.

spiderplant

30-08-2014 14:58

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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35725262)

can't be long till VM finally swap the channels round?

It can, and hopefully will, be. Just because Sky do it doesn't mean it's a good idea.

RobboEdin

30-08-2014 15:15

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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35725262)

I think this is part of a software update to the platform that is being rolled out.

There are other things, including a rip-off of the TiVo Suggestions function.

Here's a link:

http://www.avforums.com/news/sky-lau...features.10614

Stephen

30-08-2014 16:34

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back on topic please. This is not a discussion about the Sky tv service.

RichardCoulter

30-08-2014 17:13

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35725096)

I think Media Boy is saying that Viva's capacity on Freeview will be returned to Arqiva to resell and that Viva will use Channel 5 + 24's capacity.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by DOT COTTON (Post 35725272)

an agent from VM told me today after the deal has expired BT sport will be included in the SKY sports seclection and cant be added as a stand alone.

If they could get away with it, I'm sure that Sky would want this. They could then say that all the games are available in the 'Sky Sports Selection'. Also, anyone not on XL TV wanting BT Sport would have to subscribe to Sky Sports in order to receive it.

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Originally Posted by DOT COTTON (Post 35725281)

I maybe picked him up wrong he was in the indian office so he was hard to understand.

Ahh, they talk nonsense, so it probably isn't true.

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35725288)

It can, and hopefully will, be. Just because Sky do it doesn't mean it's a good idea.

Are there any technical reason/s why you don't think that VM should follow Sky on this initiative (or is it just personal preference)?

andy_m

30-08-2014 20:00

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35725288)

It can, and hopefully will, be. Just because Sky do it doesn't mean it's a good idea.

Is it not a good idea, then, from your point of view? Why not?

devilincarnate

30-08-2014 20:43

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35725345)

Is it not a good idea, then, from your point of view? Why not?

I have had problems when the HD channels have gone down and the SD still worked so I would say it could be 50/50

toady

30-08-2014 21:33

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BBC 1 HD doesn't show regional programs currently, so after the main 6PM news I'd be stuck watching bikes go round and round on a red screen for half an hour :(

spiderplant

30-08-2014 22:05

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35725320)

Are there any technical reason/s why you don't think that VM should follow Sky on this initiative (or is it just personal preference)?

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35725345)

Is it not a good idea, then, from your point of view? Why not?

1) It's not currently implemented in VM software. There isn't any great technical difficulty in implementing it, but we're trying to avoid any software changes to the Liberate boxes. So we'd have an inconsistent user experience where some boxes have the swap and some don't.

2) How can you promote channels if you don't know what channel number to promote?

3) If users choose to swap, they have to learn a whole new set of numbers. For what benefit?

4) How can VM provide support if customers don't know which channel they are watching? You can guarantee one family member will swap the channels, confusing everybody else.

(And I'm ignoring the issues of local channels - I find it very hard to believe Sky are swapping these)

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