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1andrew1 21-03-2014 13:37
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 
In the USA, cable firm RCN has launched the Opera application store on Tivo. Opera is being launched on many smart TVs giving access to hundreds of on-demand applications.

Wonder if VM will do the same?

http://www.multichannel.com/distribu...v-store/148350

OLD BOY 21-03-2014 13:58
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35681989)
To clear this up once and for all and this is in the memo recieved. SKY only own exclusive to the first run airing rights to HBO content, they also own the first run on demand content except for pay per view services such as Amazon, Blinkbox etc. As Amazon have HBO ppv content then it is certainly possible for it to show up on VM.
VM could get airing rights if they come to an agreement with Sky on Sky Atlantic, however nothing has been agreed regarding this.
Hope this clears all this "no chance" rubbish up once and for all or "sky atlantic is coming soon" rubbish too.

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No they do not both Blinkbox and Amazon have rights to HBO content all be it on a ppv basis http://www.blinkbox.com/TV/Studio/HBO

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_...o%2Cnull%2C207

Also remember FOX showed True blood first not Sky.
Thank you for clarifying your understanding of this, which was also mine.

As for Sky Atlantic, I am really quite surprised that a deal has not been done. It is even more surprising that Sky have not offered the older HBO material through on demand to VM, given its availability elsewhere. This would not destroy their 'USP' either, because they could still boast that (a) Sky Atlantic was only available on Sky and (b) that first run HBO shows could only be viewed on that platform. I still think negotiations are continuing and that VM are still holding out for a lower price given the other options available. We'll see, I suppose.

Dave42 21-03-2014 13:59
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35682149)
They could yes but i think if VM got offered Sky Atlantic at a reasonable price then VM would take it.

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Agreed bud i watched it on cw player it is very good.
of course they would but sky don't want anyone to have it that's why set far to high price knowing no one will pay it and sky have never ever dropped price on channels and they not start now so no way will anyone else get SA as ive always said

OLD BOY 21-03-2014 14:02
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 
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Originally Posted by dgcarter (Post 35682132)
And presumably, if the Amazon deal comes off, VM can then turn to Sky and say, "Actually we don't want or need Atlantic, since we can get the shows through Amazon."
Yes, except that it would cost us more to get these shows. However, if Sky only have exclusive PPV rights for the first run material, this holds out the possibility that they can do a subscription deal with Amazon as they have with Netflix, and we can have the slightly older HBO material. I'd certainly be happy with that and it gets over Sky's obstructive attitude on this matter.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35682190)
of course they would but sky don't want anyone to have it that's why set far to high price knowing no one will pay it and sky have never ever dropped price on channels and they not start now so no way will anyone else get SA as ive always said
Dave, there are other solutions available to VM to access HBO shows. It's just a matter of time before we get these, one way or the other. We are not entirely in Sky's hands, I'm pleased to say. Amazon may well be the answer for us if we have come up against a brick wall with SA.

muppetman11 21-03-2014 14:20
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Amazon has the rights to digitally sell you individual episodes or the full series of HBO content , their subscription Prime service includes no HBO content as they do not have the subscription rights.

OLD BOY 21-03-2014 14:29
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35682200)
Amazon has the rights to digitally sell you individual episodes or the full series of HBO content , their subscription Prime service includes no HBO content as they do not have the subscription rights.
So it's pay per view, purchase, or nothing if we can't get Sky to co-operate. Damn! :mad: Although of course Amazon could always enter into a new rights agreement with HBO - the agreement with Sky doesn't appear to prohibit this.

bamav 21-03-2014 14:45
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 
This is the kind of news might be steering VM's decisions down a certain path...

http://www.whathifi.com/news/digital...me-watching-tv

Times are changing - VM aren't going to spend money on what they don't have to.

OLD BOY 21-03-2014 14:57
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 
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Originally Posted by bamav (Post 35682206)
This is the kind of news might be steering VM's decisions down a certain path...

http://www.whathifi.com/news/digital...me-watching-tv

Times are changing - VM aren't going to spend money on what they don't have to.
Nothing can take away the pleasure of seeing programmes through a big screen, and no amount of devices will take that away. Yes, it's a novelty to be able to view programmes through smaller devices, but the TV will always form an important part of our viewing habits.

What VM need to concentrate on is getting us as much content as possible, including that elusive HBO material, onto our TIVO boxes with the minimum of delay. This, thankfully, appears to be LG's strategy.

bamav 21-03-2014 17:35
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35682209)
Nothing can take away the pleasure of seeing programmes through a big screen, and no amount of devices will take that away. Yes, it's a novelty to be able to view programmes through smaller devices, but the TV will always form an important part of our viewing habits.

What VM need to concentrate on is getting us as much content as possible, including that elusive HBO material, onto our TIVO boxes with the minimum of delay. This, thankfully, appears to be LG's strategy.
Absolutely agree that a large screen is best. I also believe that in the not so distant future, a whole wall in your living room will practically be your main interface to the world, including what's left of TV channels and for on-demand content.

RichardCoulter 21-03-2014 18:31
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35682190)
of course they would but sky don't want anyone to have it that's why set far to high price knowing no one will pay it and sky have never ever dropped price on channels and they not start now so no way will anyone else get SA as ive always said
They dropped the inflated price for their basic channels after VM refused to pay it and the channels were taken off the system. Advertisers were said to be furious.

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Originally Posted by bamav (Post 35682251)
Absolutely agree that a large screen is best. I also believe that in the not so distant future, a whole wall in your living room will practically be your main interface to the world, including what's left of TV channels and for on-demand content.
In time TV is said to become more of a hologram experience.

OLD BOY 21-03-2014 20:08
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 
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Originally Posted by bamav (Post 35682251)
Absolutely agree that a large screen is best. I also believe that in the not so distant future, a whole wall in your living room will practically be your main interface to the world, including what's left of TV channels and for on-demand content.
TV heaven :D:D

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35682264)
In time TV is said to become more of a hologram experience.
Yes, I think this will be much more popular than 3D, which is severely hampered by the need to wear those ridiculous goggles.

howardmicks 21-03-2014 20:27
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35682149)
They could yes but i think if VM got offered Sky Atlantic at a reasonable price then VM would take it.

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Agreed bud i watched it on cw player it is very good.
It's on Netflix Canada bud,Netflix must have done a deal to show it there.result I watched first ep on hula plus be watching it on there in future

spiderplant 21-03-2014 21:49
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35682282)
TV heaven :D:D
Or pixellation hell, depending on the video resolution. It's also pretty pointless if the picture is larger than your field of view.

johnathome 22-03-2014 01:05
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35682190)
...and sky have never ever dropped price on channels and they not start now...
Dave mate, do you have a source for that or is it 'just what you think'?

theone2k10 22-03-2014 01:22
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35682190)
of course they would but sky don't want anyone to have it that's why set far to high price knowing no one will pay it and sky have never ever dropped price on channels and they not start now so no way will anyone else get SA as ive always said
Think before you type mate :p: you should rephrase that to Sky have never voluntary dropped prices of their channels. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8596083.stm old news i know but i'm in on of those silly moods blame the JD :p:

Also worth noting one of the top guys at LG is also on the board at Discovery who are joining up with Sky for Channel 5 it seems. So in reallity anything could happen regarding channels.


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