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Nopanic 07-02-2011 23:27

Re: [Update] ALL 20>30Mb upgrade discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KenK (Post 35169694)
Oh dear, someone chose to design in "issues"? If the "issues" can be predicted, why were they not eliminated before now?

No, someone chooses to design .. issue's are a factor of design and what one company perceived to be an issue, isn't necessarily a fault.


The reason for the delay in update isn't known to me, maybe they need something that takes a long time to code ? or order ? I've never created a firmware upgrade for a router, so have no idea.

pip08456 07-02-2011 23:36

Re: [Update] ALL 20>30Mb upgrade discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nopanic (Post 35169739)
No, someone chooses to design .. issue's are a factor of design and what one company perceived to be an issue, isn't necessarily a fault.

I agree 100%,the issues are a design flaw which I am also 100% certain Netgear had foreseen.

It wasn't their design though, it was VM's. VM made the spec, I assume, and put it out to tender.

I wonder how much this firmware upgrade is costing them? They certainly won't be getting it free!

KenK 07-02-2011 23:51

Re: [Update] ALL 20>30Mb upgrade discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nopanic (Post 35169739)
No, someone chooses to design .. issue's are a factor of design and what one company perceived to be an issue, isn't necessarily a fault.

Someone in VM chose this design. You - VM - are now admitting "issues" in your own design. Whether the 'switched on' netgear guys advised the design, or against it, I'll never know. But since they now
Quote:

predict and have a fix ready for issues, before we find them
I think the VM designers need to listen to them more.

Diesel2011 08-02-2011 01:22

Re: [Update] ALL 20>30Mb upgrade discussion
 
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Upgraded to 30mb but my download speed has barely changed. Upload speed has gone up though.

Startup Procedure
Procedure Status Comment
Acquire Downstream Channel 307000000 Hz Locked
Connectivity State OK Operational
Boot State OK Operational
Configuration File OK
Security Enabled BPI+


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Downstream Channels
Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power SNR Docsis/EuroDocsis locked
Locked QAM256 114 55616000 Kbits/sec 307000000 Hz 13.2 dBmV 43.2 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 113 55616000 Kbits/sec 299000000 Hz 13.6 dBmV 43.4 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 115 55616000 Kbits/sec 315000000 Hz 13.0 dBmV 42.6 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 116 55616000 Kbits/sec 323000000 Hz 12.8 dBmV 43.1 dB Hybrid
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown


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Upstream Channels
Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power
Locked ATDMA 1 20480 Kbits/sec 35800000 Hz 43.9 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Primary Downstream Service Flow
Downstream(0)
SFID 18098
Max Traffic Rate 32220000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 3044 bytes
Mix Traffic Rate 0 bps


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Primary Upstream Service Flow
Upstream(0)
SFID 18097
Max Traffic Rate 1111000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 8160 bytes
Mix Traffic Rate 0 bps
Max Concatenated Burst 8160 bytes
Scheduling Type Best Effort

pip08456 08-02-2011 01:24

Re: [Update] ALL 20>30Mb upgrade discussion
 
Downstream power levels too high! Ring in and get them out!

Zee 08-02-2011 01:37

Re: [Update] ALL 20>30Mb upgrade discussion
 
They told me even though i have a superhub i have to pay £30, plus if i do upgrade to 30Mb i will lose my 6 months half price promotional deal and be paying £37 per month for broadband, surly this is not right? :S

pip08456 08-02-2011 01:54

Re: [Update] ALL 20>30Mb upgrade discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 35169782)
They told me even though i have a superhub i have to pay £30, plus if i do upgrade to 30Mb i will lose my 6 months half price promotional deal and be paying £37 per month for broadband, surly this is not right? :S

You will not have to pay the £30 but you would lose the promo deal as all those taking the 30Mb have to revert to standard pricing.

It is stated on the website page.

Zee 08-02-2011 01:59

Re: [Update] ALL 20>30Mb upgrade discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35169786)
You will not have to pay the £30 but you would lose the promo deal as all those taking the 30Mb have to revert to standard pricing.

It is stated on the website page.

I might as well cancel the whole service and sign up again since i only got activated on 5th Feb

What about if i upgrade to 50Mb, will i still lose the 6 months promo deal?

Chrysalis 08-02-2011 02:01

Re: [Update] ALL 20>30Mb upgrade discussion
 
downstream power levels are too high.

Nopanic 08-02-2011 08:35

Re: [Update] ALL 20>30Mb upgrade discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KenK (Post 35169751)
Someone in VM chose this design. You - VM - are now admitting "issues" in your own design. Whether the 'switched on' netgear guys advised the design, or against it, I'll never know. But since they now I think the VM designers need to listen to them more.

- I work for VM but anything posted is my own work ..

Nopanic 08-02-2011 09:18

Re: Have a Superhub and been charged for 30Mb?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35169714)
There are a few though who have been charged even though they already had the superhub.

How could they poster have rung up and had it refunded if he had not been charged for it?

There are also still posts on this forum where offshore especially are telling existing superhub customers they will be charged.

They can call up and get a credit for the £30.

Peter_ 08-02-2011 09:19

Re: [Update] ALL 20>30Mb upgrade discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel2011 (Post 35169778)

Downstream Channels
13.2 dBmV
13.6 dBmV
13.0 dBmV
12.8 dBmV

If you call up the above is what is to high, they should be a lot lower.

pabscars 08-02-2011 09:50

Re: [Update] ALL 20>30Mb upgrade discussion
 
Just for reference purposes, my superhub is running at 8.9 to 9.1 dBmV without any major issues.

Peter_ 08-02-2011 11:07

Re: [Update] ALL 20>30Mb upgrade discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pabscars (Post 35169823)
Just for reference purposes, my superhub is running at 8.9 to 9.1 dBmV without any major issues.

They can but if the are issues then it will probably be the power levels.

AndyCambs 08-02-2011 11:47

Re: [Update] ALL 20>30Mb upgrade discussion
 
Good start. Got my revised contract through for the installation and upgrade. The free upgrade showed a total of £18.50 extra, and the installation charges showed a total of £70...

Apparently someone entered it wrong, and the order had to be cancelled and re-entered.

VM Customer Services - please try better...


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