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That's just off the top of my head. To simply brush off legitimate concerns raised as bullying or scaremongering is an appalling way to run such an important campaign. |
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I'm not defending the nats but given this constant "you can't", "you won't" attitude from the pro union parties and others I can understand why some people on one side see it as bullying. Post referendum (whatever the outcome) negotiation was always the way these things were to be and will be decided. To state otherwise in advance of the outcome is exactly as you have described it. "Scaremongering" and in the eyes of some an attempt at "bullying". |
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For normal elections we expect promises to be broken but there is no going back after a yes vote. To find in 5-10 years that a huge mistake was based on lies and half truths would be pointless as nothing could be done at that point. |
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On that basis you could equally well say that the "No thanks" camp are lying when they say that X or Y won't happen because they too are wedded to the negotiations and are subject to the outworkings of same. "Fear", "trepidation", "bullying", "lies" or "half truths" - call it what you like. It's a double edged sword. |
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I see the referendum as an even more serious event than a "normal election". You get the opportunity to vote every 4-5 years with elections, and are given the right to change your mind about the way your previous selection has, or has not, performed. To ask the electorate to decide yes or no on the basis that you might, or might not, negotiate a positive outcome on the major elements that the country runs on, seems like a very irresponsible way to treat any voter, as this event will probably be the most important one the eligible voters will ever vote on.
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If they at least pretended they have a plan B for currency union, EU membership, NATO membership, energy and everything else I wouldn't be as bothered but they don't and their debates about it degenerate into a fingers in the ears saying 'la la la. Not listening to you' which for such an important vote is nothing short of disgraceful. |
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It's not like the SNP have only just thought about it. Surely they have been planning for this for decades? |
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It seems absolutely crazy that after all these decades of talk on the matter, that nobody really knows what is going to happen with a yes vote. There has been plenty of time to thrash out the issues. |
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However the way the referendum has been, rather cleverly, set up means that there are no "certainties". Ergo neither side (no matter the outcome) is tied to the current status quo. They are where they are. ---------- Post added at 12:41 ---------- Previous post was at 12:40 ---------- Quote:
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It'll all be OK, Bravemouth has his fingers and toes crossed... :D
Of course if it turns out the Scots vote yes and subsequently find they've been sold a tartan pup, I'd like to know what "Plan B" is? |
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I couldn't believe the naivety of some of the people. They seem to think they will all be living in some kind of socialist utopia in the event of a YES vote. Some of them really have swallowed the bull. An independent Scotland will be a socially just place, away from the morally corrupt English bankers. they seem to think that there will be no super rich in a independent Scotland, and the wealth will be magically spread to all. |
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