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No that’s not the definition from you or Hugh. try again. :rolleyes:

Good news about the GDP under Trump, yes no, does it really hurt to give any credit at all?

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No Hugh, her NOT being President will do for me. The world dodged a bullet with that Crooked witch.

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Dodged a bullet but got a nuclear warhead in the shape of Trumpton.

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More rubbish.

You really should take note the efforts of denuclearisation of North Korea, thanks to Trump, remains of US soldiers received from NK as of this morning, more good news courtesy of Trump Admin, didn’t happen under Obama, wouldn’t have happened under the witches Presidency, had she won.

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If the denuclearisation happens. It doesn't appear they've started work on it not is it clear what the next step is. I am skeptical of North Korea in general.

If it doesn't happen then Trump gave military war games away and gave them the photo-op they wanted. I mean Obama could have given them that, Elevating a murderous dictator and giving him a propaganda win. He has to get something more concrete for his efforts. That photo of Trump shaking the hands of Kim while the American flag flies alongside the North Korean flag will not age well if it wasn't the start of something.

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Dismantling of their missile test sites has occurred, North Korea has been fairly committed to stick to the diplomatic route, they sent home the remains of 55 U.S personnel soldiers, released hostages and blown up test sites, removed Anti-American propaganda around the country. So if peace is a lasting result of one photo op, it’s worth it, least if Trump gets his Nobel Peace prize, he got it because he deserved it, unlike Obama.

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We are seeing what the North Koreans want us to see.

Some satellite photos of a 'test' site being taken apart. As well as a publicity stunt.

I don't trust that country at all.

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No one is being asked to Trust them, they have to earn it first. So far they have been the most diplomatic they have ever been.

Released U.S hostages, released remains of U.S soldiers as of yesterday, removed Anti- American propaganda around the country for first time.

I think the U.S Intelligence agencies can tell if the test sites they are blowing up are fake or not.

The Never-Trumpers need to start realising, Trump is not going anywhere soon. He has maintained his resilience than any other president. All the knock backs, all the negative hysteria would have destroyed any other president. Trump doesn’t care about the haters, he has his rock solid base and it is still growing.

The Democrats are in trouble, they are straying to the far left, want open borders, they introduced a bill the other week to abolish ICE, the border control agency, they are out of their frigging minds, I mean they were before having Crooked Hillary as a candidate, but now with the likes of Bernie Sanders, he’s a Jeremy Corbyn type, very socialistic with his policies. Long time Democratic voters are walking away from them in droves and so they should.

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Hilary is not crooked.

That was proven.

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I beg to differ, she along with the DNC paid for the Fake Russian Dossier, that was “illegally” used as a source in a FISA warrant, to spy on Trump Campaign and I say “illegal” because the claims in the Dossier are unverified. The FISA warrant used a Media outlet as a means to try verify the Dossier. A Second Special Prosecutor would have a field day with the statutes violated here.

So yes, she’s Crooked.

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One test site was taken down but that was the one which seems as if was close to collapse and this occurred before Trump's 'deal' with them. They released hostages before under Obama too. The remains of soldiers in the Korean War is good though.

However N.Korea do not appear to be denuclearising: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-t-come-cheap

On top of the fact there is no progress in them giving up the weapons they don't seem to have slowed production of existing ones. Earlier on in the thread we talked about how activity is increasing in one of their plants.

Trump is a long way from the peace prize. There needs to be tangible change in North Korea for that to happen.

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We've been here before. This is not the first diplomatic success we've had with North Korea that failed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreed_Framework

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/19/w...r-efforts.html

Every 10 or so years we have a great agreement with them and then nothing happens.

He is the President of the United States. We're not One Direction or Taylor Swift fans arguing over which one is better.

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No but I can point out the silly Trump hysteria that routinely shows it’s head in here, it’s not much of topic when the same crap gets repeated, “Trumps an idiot.” “Trumpton is a liar” “Trump this” “Trump that”, Obama made plenty of mistakes in his presidency, I don’t remember him having a long running thread on here.

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Trump's a more divisive character than Obama ever was and his factual accuracy is well below Obama's. That makes for a more lively and lengthy debate.

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I would have to completely disagree with that - America was divisive during the Obama Admin - remember, Black lives matter formed under his Administration, not Trump's - There will still be a divide long after Trump leaves office in 2020/2024. If Trump is removed from Office before an election cycle - there will be the next American Civil war, bit like if Brexit does not happen here, there will be riots and civil unrest here.

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Sorry, I mean divisive in terms of people's opinions of him - he's a Marmite character.

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And most sane people hate Marmite ;)