Cable Forum - Brexit (Old)

Few on this forum are up for taking lessons in democracy from an avowed Corbyn-supporter like Varoufakis.
SEPH: What’s that got to do with anything? Varoufakis was explaining EU behaviour which has unfolded between your head in the sand eyes. Why not debate the democratic credentials of the EU regime?
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It's bizarre isn't it? Some are happy to see the country suffer economically overall by several per cent yet are suddenly concerned by one group suffering a salary decline of 0.06%. Tackle that by raising the income tax threshold by a fraction of a per cent and not be penalising the entire country!

1/30th of 1.8% is 4/5 of 5/8 of eff all! But yes, it is a worthy consideration that government should protect the lower wage earners by threshold adjustments. Sadly an omission from the Tory party conference where the star policy was that waiters can keep their tips.

Bircho

06-10-2018 10:46

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1/30 of 1.8% or even 1.9% is a very tiny amount.

For someone on a 37.5 hour contract aged over 25 and on the National Living Wage, it works out at £9.78 PER YEAR before tax and national insurance.

Angua

06-10-2018 10:55

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For someone on a 37.5 hour contract aged over 25 and on the National Living Wage, it works out at £9.78 PER YEAR before tax and national insurance.

Have they actually lost anything in reality? Or is that down to the income tax threshold and the NLW rate, both of which are government controlled? They are not earning any less, or paying any more tax & NI, so how have they lost £9.78 pa?

Dave42

06-10-2018 12:54

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Juncker: Brexit deal could be reached within weeks
Jean-Claude Juncker says an agreement between the UK and the European Union could be reached later this month or in November.

https://news.sky.com/story/juncker-b...weeks-11518837

1andrew1

06-10-2018 20:46

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At the Cheltenham Book Festival, Robert Peston has been discussing why the BBC was biased in favour of Leave.

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He was asked whether the BBC could be blamed for Brexit. He laughed at the suggestion but went on to criticise its coverage. “The problem with the BBC, during the campaign, it put people on with diametrically opposed views and didn’t give their viewers and listeners any help in assessing which one was the loony and which one was the genius,” he said.
“I do think that they went through a period of just not being confident enough. Impartial journalism is not giving equal airtime to two people one of whom says the world is flat and the other one says the world is round. That is not balanced, impartial journalism.”...
He said impartial journalism was about “weighing the evidence and saying on the balance of probabilities … this is the truth. It is the role of a journalist to say, ‘we’ve got these two contradictory arguments, I’m now going to advise all of you which is likely to be closer to the truth.’”
Peston said he consistently said on ITV News that leaving the EU would make the UK poorer. “Not massively poorer. I thought the Project Fear bit of the government’s campaign was overdone. But poorer.”

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...endum-campaign

Sephiroth

06-10-2018 20:52

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Peston acknowledging Project Fear. Well, well, well.

Dave42

06-10-2018 20:54

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At the Cheltenham Book Festival, Robert Peston has been discussing why the BBC was biased in favour of Leave.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...endum-campaign

it not called the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation for nothing Andrew

Sephiroth

06-10-2018 21:01

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The BBC in my perception is/was highly Remain biased.

Dave42

06-10-2018 21:01

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The BBC in my perception is/was highly Remain biased.

your having a laugh aint ya

Sephiroth

06-10-2018 21:11

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your having a laugh aint ya

Another Remainer/Leaver difference of opinion.

1andrew1

06-10-2018 21:14

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The BBC in my perception is/was highly Remain biased.

Ha ha, nice one mate. That's made my weekend. :D

Mick	06-10-2018 21:41

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The BBC in my perception is/was highly Remain biased.

Correct.

pip08456

06-10-2018 22:44

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Analysis by monitoring group News-Watch looked at Radio 4's flagship morning news programme Today and concluded that there was "overwhelming negativity" about Leaving the EU.

During the six three-hour morning shows from Monday 29 March to Saturday 4 April, Today fielded 124 guests on Article 50 but only eight, 6.5 per cent, were "given the space to make substantive arguments that the future for the UK outside the EU would yield significant benefits".

It also claimed that in the survey period BBC correspondents "displayed what can only be described as a strong common editorial bias against Brexit".

1andrew1

06-10-2018 23:15

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I think Robert Peston who has criticised Project Fear has somewhat more credibility than these people!

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In October 2017 Newswatch published a pro-Brexit report but claimed it was independent of the Brexit lobby. However its website was soliciting donations to be paid to Leave.EU.

denphone

07-10-2018 07:28

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Its obviously biased to those who don't agree with what it says Andrew.;)

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