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RizzyKing 24-07-2008 13:28

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Thats the biggest problem here i think i have never really liked the parents as people from everything i have seen they come across as quite arrogant and dismissive of anything that doesn't agree with them. When you dislike people it's easy to believe the worst of them.

eth01 24-07-2008 17:07

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34607257)
Thats the biggest problem here i think i have never really liked the parents as people from everything i have seen they come across as quite arrogant and dismissive of anything that doesn't agree with them. When you dislike people it's easy to believe the worst of them.

agreed ;)

BUT.

nobody knows the truth, only them.

Maggy 24-07-2008 17:39

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eth01 (Post 34607458)
agreed ;)

BUT.

nobody knows the truth, only them.

And possibly whoever took little Madeleine.

Chris 24-07-2008 18:36

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eth01 (Post 34607458)
agreed ;)

BUT.

nobody knows the truth, only them.

Comments like that can be taken to imply some sort of covered-up wrongdoing on their part - and given that a lot of British newspapers have just paid out a *lot* of money after agreeing that they printed a load of baseless allegations about the McCanns, this forum will not tolerate any libellous suggestions that Maddie's own family had something to do with her disappearance.

If you want to expose yourself to legal action please go and find somewhere else to do it.

peanut 24-07-2008 18:40

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris T (Post 34607556)
Comments like that can be taken to imply some sort of covered-up wrongdoing on their part - and given that a lot of British newspapers have just paid out a *lot* of money after agreeing that they printed a load of baseless allegations about the McCanns, this forum will not tolerate any libellous suggestions that Maddie's own family had something to do with her disappearance.

If you want to expose yourself to legal action please go and find somewhere else to do it.

Is that the end of this forum as we know it then, that we can't air our opinions, no one here has any facts nor say otherwise, but opinions, I mean, come on.

Chris 24-07-2008 18:50

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peanutkp (Post 34607559)
Is that the end of this forum as we know it then, that we can't air our opinions, no one here has any facts nor say otherwise, but opinions, I mean, come on.

Not this haggard old debate again ...

for the nth time:

You are entitled to share your opinion so long as it does not breach the Forum rules. The Forum rules include the stipulation that you don't post anything defamatory. Implying that the McCanns 'know something' is potentially defamatory, especially in the light of recent rulings by both British and Portuguese courts.

If you can't abide by this simple rule, which is in fact nothing more than a reminder that posting on a forum does not exempt you from obeying the Law of Defamation, then we cordially invite you to set up your own forum, post whatever you like on it, and see how far it gets you.

peanut 24-07-2008 18:54

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris T (Post 34607571)
Not this haggard old debate again ...

for the nth time:

You are entitled to share your opinion so long as it does not breach the Forum rules. The Forum rules include the stipulation that you don't post anything defamatory. Implying that the McCanns 'know something' is potentially defamatory, especially in the light of recent rulings by both British and Portuguese courts.

If you can't abide by this simple rule, which is in fact nothing more than a reminder that posting on a forum does not exempt you from obeying the Law of Defamation, then we cordially invite you to set up your own forum, post whatever you like on it, and see how far it gets you.

I'm sorry if it's old and haggared to you, but to me it ain't.

Your post was much more hitting when it wasn't in bold and that's not being argumentative either.

Points noted eitherway.

Russ 24-07-2008 19:05

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peanutkp (Post 34607574)
I'm sorry if it's old and haggared to you, but to me it ain't.

To you, it's just your opinion.

To us it's the potential of being dragged to court. I'm sure that given the choice, you'd rather keep things out of a legal situation.

RizzyKing 24-07-2008 19:38

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
I always smile when some people drag the whole media and world into their affairs and then as soon as it isn't saying what they like or agreeing with them it's lawyer time absolutely pathetic really.

Chris 24-07-2008 20:31

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34607609)
I always smile when some people drag the whole media and world into their affairs and then as soon as it isn't saying what they like or agreeing with them it's lawyer time absolutely pathetic really.

It's not pathetic at all. Talking to a newspaper, or asking them for their help, in no way means that they have surrendered their rights to be treated fairly.

How would you like it if I helped your granny carry her shopping over the road, and then went down to the community centre and circulated baseless rumours that she'd stolen it all from Tesco?

RizzyKing 24-07-2008 20:38

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Not the same thing at all Chris and they did a lot more then ask for help and only became annoyed with the press when it started going against them. But people will still have their opinions and still believe what they want to believe can stop it on here but can never stop it fully. Doesn't really matter though does it baseless accusation, opinion or out and out fantasising is not going to do anything to get back the little girl.

c_r 24-07-2008 20:57

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris T (Post 34607656)
Talking to a newspaper, or asking them for their help, in no way means that they have surrendered their rights to be treated fairly.

That should probably read "should in no way mean that they have surrendered their rights to be treated fairly." because unfortunately, given the state of the media, it does. Once the prospect of either a tearful reunion or some evil pedophile to blame were gone it was inevitable that there was going to be a media backlash against them. It's not right, and most people would surely have used the press like they did as well, but it's what happens when you get into bed with the media. And, in fairness, they were treated ridiculously well to start with, any mention that they might have been negligent seemed to be a taboo subject amongst the tabloid press.

Chris 24-07-2008 23:43

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by c_r (Post 34607682)
That should probably read "should in no way mean that they have surrendered their rights to be treated fairly." because unfortunately, given the state of the media, it does. Once the prospect of either a tearful reunion or some evil pedophile to blame were gone it was inevitable that there was going to be a media backlash against them. It's not right, and most people would surely have used the press like they did as well, but it's what happens when you get into bed with the media. And, in fairness, they were treated ridiculously well to start with, any mention that they might have been negligent seemed to be a taboo subject amongst the tabloid press.

I stand by my original phrasing ;)

It does in no way mean they have surrendered their rights. It doesn't mean that the newspapers will respect those rights, I agree with you that far. But those rights still exist. Which is why the Mail, Express and others paid out some undisclosed, but doubtless very handsome, wads of cash last week after admitting they treated the McCanns very unfairly indeed.

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34607664)
Not the same thing at all Chris and they did a lot more then ask for help and only became annoyed with the press when it started going against them. But people will still have their opinions and still believe what they want to believe can stop it on here but can never stop it fully. Doesn't really matter though does it baseless accusation, opinion or out and out fantasising is not going to do anything to get back the little girl.

I'm not the thought police Rizz, I can't tell people what to think, nor do I want to. I can tell them what they're allowed to say on here, though, if I believe they are exposing this website to the risk of a claim of defamation. ;)

timebandit 25-07-2008 10:35

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marky (Post 34294253)
Jeesh



I wouldnt call 40yds alone, i really feel for the parents as should you all :(

Sadly , it was as good as 400 miles

RizzyKing 25-07-2008 12:41

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
This is one thread where i wouldn't want to be a mod to be honest many of us have strong opinions on this subject and the many aspects of it and it must be hard allowing people to voice their opinions and protecting the site from any legal action.


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