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Not in this thread, I was careful to read through your posts to ensure that.

I am not accusing you of cowardice, I'm sorry if that is how you perceive it. I am accusing you of contradicting posts without the good grace of backing them up yourself with your own alternative solutions.

You are not having a reasoned debate. You ask me to learn. I should advise you learn the differnence between debate/argument and contradiction

Reminds of that famous Monty Python Sketch.

"I came here for an argument"

"No you didn't"

"You're just contradicting me"

"No I'm not"

"ooh you just did"

"No I didn't".

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In which case, I suggest you go back and take another look at post #113

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...&postcount=113

Where I said:

"I have the right to object to a course or policy *without* needing to solve the problem as the price of that objection."

It seems you did not read carefully enough.

No, you did not. You said (again I quote your exact words):

"you have rubbished most peoples attempts at providing a solution to the problem but not been brave enough to supply your own."

Now I don't know about you, but where *I* come from, saying someone is "not brave enough" to do something does *not* equate with "good grace", but, rather, has the implication of "cowardice"!

Sigh, Pierre, I really don't know if I can be bothered to waste more time with this. If you cannot *see* or learn(!) the difference between my raising points to counter yours and someone just "yes it is! No it isn't" then I really consider there being little purpose in carrying on.

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??????? Me not read it carefully??????????

I'll explain again for the hard of thinking. In my post about 3 or previous I said.

That was my point you are arguing without coming up with a solution yourself, anyone can "object" but if you just "object" without offering a differing alternative to the point placed in front of you, you are not really engaging in an intelligent discussion are you.

I say again my quote from the earlier post:


And finally

When will you learn that:

is not really a counter point is it.

I don't about you being tired of this, I certainly am.

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Oh dear, more "reasoned debate".

You are now no longer even discussing the *issue* this thread is about, you have caused it to degenerate into an attack on my postings and I cannot be bothered to waste time explaining again matters that I have already covered.

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Suit yourself. Although I believe you have acted masterfully in evading my questions that I have put to you time and again.

The thing is you "haven't explained matters that you have already covered" if you had I wouldn't keep asking. Using the excuse that "I" have degenerated the thread is quite laughable.

And therefore I can take it that apart from "letting the muslim community sort out the Al-qaeda themselves" you have no other options to remedy this problem.

As that is the simple question I have been asking you to answer for the past few days, you haven't answered it and you continue to not answer it.

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You may take it in any way you want, just as you have done with most everything else I have written.

:blah: :wavey: :walk:

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He does have a point Graham. We have had many similar arguments where you object to something but refuse to offer any real alternative solution. In addition, you usually also refuse to be pinned down on a variety of points, preferring to just sidestep the questions, or when that is not possible, rubbish/ridicule the question(er). :shrug:

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:tu: :tu: :tu:

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You're probably right, but before I address that, on the last point I will comment that I only rubbish or ridicule someone's *points* and *NOT* the person, and will only do so if those points *are* rubbish or ridiculous.

So the question then becomes, do you or Pierre *really* understand the nature of discussion and debate?

And I think given what you have said above and he has said in other messages (and the fact that I note, from a subsequent message, he agrees with you), the answer is "no".

However that's a discussion for another debate.

:notopic:

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In your opinion...

...and your doing it again :D

...but you're right, it is a topic for another thread :)

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In your world - obviously not :dunce:

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Jehovah!!

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And another personal attack... :rolleyes:

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You're very touchy. Not at all.

You alleged:

I simply responded that in my opinion for you to come that conclusion you must be deluded.

No more an "attack" on you than your "attack" on me :rolleyes:

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In someone's very famous saying or not ;).... "Answer the question" :D