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nomadking 29-11-2024 10:51
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Labour politicians mysteriously get away with so much stuff, even when it public knowledge.

1andrew1 29-11-2024 10:58
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36186761)
Labour politicians mysteriously get away with so much stuff, even when it public knowledge.
Keep up mate! She's lost her job over what Chris calls a nothing burger.

Russ 29-11-2024 11:01
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
How has she “got away with it”?

papa smurf 29-11-2024 11:23
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36186757)
If this was Boris you’d be saying “all politicians are like that”.
what mobile phone thieves :shrug:

Hugh 29-11-2024 12:19
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36186764)
what mobile phone thieves :shrug:
Fair point - Conservative Ministers just "replace"/forget to back-up/forget the password from their phones when they are needed as evidence in Enquiries… ;)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ld-be-searched

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/article/...bile-st6cnf9k9

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...sages-12920387

papa smurf 29-11-2024 12:49
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they're off to a good start

clothing gate
thumping a member of the public
fake CV
fraud conviction
clearly turning the page :rolleyes:

---------- Post added at 12:49 ---------- Previous post was at 12:35 ----------

After a few minuets of carefull consideration a new transport minister has been appointed

https://news.sky.com/story/heidi-ale...-plea-13262817

Chris 29-11-2024 14:37
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36186776)
After a few minuets of carefull consideration a new transport minister has been appointed

https://news.sky.com/story/heidi-ale...-plea-13262817
If Starmer has been doing French ballroom dancing instead of running the country the Daily Mail will go ballistic.

Kursk 29-11-2024 16:48
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Rosie Duffield:sulk:

Sue Gray :Sprint:

Mike Amesbury :bsmack:

Louise Haigh :redcard:

Rachel from Accounts. :naughty:


Please make it stop.

Damien 29-11-2024 17:30
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I think the main problem is her account doesn't add up to me.

It seems that she was mugged. This doesn't appear to be in dispute.

She includes her work phone on the list of items taken.

Her work phone is then turned on and the police notice she has it.

She is questioned and 'on the advice of her lawyer' says no comment.

The case proceeds and she pleads guilty.

Now if she found the phone again and was mistaken about it being stolen then why offer No Comment? Why did the police and CPS proceed with the case? If you're robbed and you mistakenly list an item stolen that wasn't then the police aren't going to go after you for that. They must have had some evidence this was deliberate.

The article from Sky said she lost her job at Aviva over this and that she wanted a new work phone. That seems the most plausible explanation here. She saw a chance to get a new phone and so added that to the list of stolen items and then was done for when it was uncovered.

All I would say is that it was a spent conviction so to resign now over it seems weird unless more is to come out. I guess she didn't want the story to drag on and Labour don't want to go down the Tory route of spending weeks defending someone only to have to fire them later.

Itshim 29-11-2024 17:39
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36186792)
I think the main problem is her account doesn't add up to me.

It seems that she was mugged. This doesn't appear to be in dispute.

She includes her work phone on the list of items taken.

Her work phone is then turned on and the police notice she has it.

She is questioned and 'on the advice of her lawyer' says no comment.

The case proceeds and she pleads guilty.

Now if she found the phone again and was mistaken about it being stolen then why offer No Comment? Why did the police and CPS proceed with the case? If you're robbed and you mistakenly list an item stolen that wasn't then the police aren't going to go after you for that. They must have had some evidence this was deliberate.

The article from Sky said she lost her job at Aviva over this and that she wanted a new work phone. That seems the most plausible explanation here. She saw a chance to get a new phone and so added that to the list of stolen items and then was done for when it was uncovered.

All I would say is that it was a spent conviction so to resign now over it seems weird unless more is to come out. I guess she didn't want the story to drag on and Labour don't want to go down the Tory route of spending weeks defending someone only to have to fire them later.
As I see it the problem is sir keir knew all about it . So his judgement is being called into question yet again :rolleyes:

1andrew1 29-11-2024 18:15
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36186792)
I think the main problem is her account doesn't add up to me.

It seems that she was mugged. This doesn't appear to be in dispute.

She includes her work phone on the list of items taken.

Her work phone is then turned on and the police notice she has it.

She is questioned and 'on the advice of her lawyer' says no comment.

The case proceeds and she pleads guilty.

Now if she found the phone again and was mistaken about it being stolen then why offer No Comment? Why did the police and CPS proceed with the case? If you're robbed and you mistakenly list an item stolen that wasn't then the police aren't going to go after you for that. They must have had some evidence this was deliberate.

The article from Sky said she lost her job at Aviva over this and that she wanted a new work phone. That seems the most plausible explanation here. She saw a chance to get a new phone and so added that to the list of stolen items and then was done for when it was uncovered.

All I would say is that it was a spent conviction so to resign now over it seems weird unless more is to come out. I guess she didn't want the story to drag on and Labour don't want to go down the Tory route of spending weeks defending someone only to have to fire them later.
From my perspective, Sir Keir said that lawbreakers shouldn't be lawmakers. As she broke the law, and this is now widely known, her position is untenable so she resigned. If Sir Keir took one thing from BoJo's mistakes, it would be never to string these things out.

Pierre 29-11-2024 21:10
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36186795)
From my perspective, Sir Keir said that lawbreakers shouldn't be lawmakers. As she broke the law, and this is now widely known, her position is untenable so she resigned.
That is a very cogent, coherent and intelligent take.

Paul 29-11-2024 21:59
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36186795)
If Sir Keir took one thing from BoJo's mistakes, it would be never to string these things out.
He didnt make any decisions on this, she resigned. Of course, she may have been "advised" to do so.

Hugh 29-11-2024 22:21
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36186792)
I think the main problem is her account doesn't add up to me.

It seems that she was mugged. This doesn't appear to be in dispute.

She includes her work phone on the list of items taken.

Her work phone is then turned on and the police notice she has it.

She is questioned and 'on the advice of her lawyer' says no comment.

The case proceeds and she pleads guilty.

Now if she found the phone again and was mistaken about it being stolen then why offer No Comment? Why did the police and CPS proceed with the case? If you're robbed and you mistakenly list an item stolen that wasn't then the police aren't going to go after you for that. They must have had some evidence this was deliberate.

The article from Sky said she lost her job at Aviva over this and that she wanted a new work phone. That seems the most plausible explanation here. She saw a chance to get a new phone and so added that to the list of stolen items and then was done for when it was uncovered.

All I would say is that it was a spent conviction so to resign now over it seems weird unless more is to come out. I guess she didn't want the story to drag on and Labour don't want to go down the Tory route of spending weeks defending someone only to have to fire them later.
Do you have a link to that, please?

Can’t find that in this Sky News article…

https://news.sky.com/story/louise-ha...-game-13263058

Russ 29-11-2024 22:32
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Interesting how Deform fans are far more lenient with their own James McMurdock.


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