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papa smurf 28-02-2021 11:33

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36072312)
I must say this is all incredibly fascinating....

Just be nice to each other is never a bad start. Gender(s) are irrelevant in comparison and a matter for you alone.

That's easy for you/them/their/him/her/ms/Mr/none/ to say but will it be enough.

Sephiroth 28-02-2021 12:29

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36072317)
Heard something the other day which makes sense. The right have largely won the economic arguments (market economy) and the left have largely won the cultural arguments (equality, inclusion, etc).

What use can be made of that information when taken together?

1andrew1 28-02-2021 13:45

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36072330)
What use can be made of that information when taken together?

Make the right messages on culture wars to keep the right-of-centre happy. You can't gain votes by pushing the market economy any more as no one is proposing otherwise, so culture wars is your sweet spot.

Do a small bit of old-fashioned state intervention on industry to keep the left-of-centre happy whilst keeping a largely market economy.

With such an approach, your electoral chances are increased. ;)

Pierre 28-02-2021 18:12

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36072312)
Just be nice to each other is never a bad start. Gender(s) are irrelevant in comparison and a matter for you alone.

Good advice that I agree with, but some want to make it matter for everyone else, and/or get very offended if you don’t bend to their will.

Hugh 28-02-2021 20:05

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
Being polite to others, and using the terms they prefer, is a long way from bending to someone’s will...

ymmv

Pierre 28-02-2021 20:20

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36072387)
Being polite to others, and using the terms they prefer, is a long way from bending to someone’s will...

ymmv

Ymmv, not an abbreviation I was familiar with, and not one that I assign any relevance to.

I have chosen not to participate in the culture war or any post-modernist machinations.........because they are illogical and a waste of my valuable time.

I remain polite.

peanut 28-02-2021 20:23

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36072387)
Being polite to others, and using the terms they prefer, is a long way from bending to someone’s will...

ymmv

Nope it'll be polite, he or she, him or her, anything other it's their them they, or themselves problem.

Hugh 01-03-2021 00:31

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
Only a problem if you think it is...

---------- Post added at 23:31 ---------- Previous post was at 23:29 ----------

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36072391)
Ymmv, not an abbreviation I was familiar with, and not one that I assign any relevance to.

I have chosen not to participate in the culture war or any post-modernist machinations.........because they are illogical and a waste of my valuable time.

I remain polite.

Your postings on the subject would evidence otherwise...

Maggy 01-03-2021 09:41

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36072387)
Being polite to others, and using the terms they prefer, is a long way from bending to someone’s will...

ymmv

Yep it would seem so but sometimes one can find oneself under attack for not obeying a person's preferred term of address when you have no idea what that form of address is..because they haven't informed you what they prefer. :shrug:

1andrew1 01-03-2021 10:41

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36072417)
Yep it would seem so but sometimes one can find oneself under attack for not obeying a person's preferred term of address when you have no idea what that form of address is..because they haven't informed you what they prefer. :shrug:

Has this ever happened to you? I've been corrected on a personal pronoun use before but I didn't think of myself as being under attack.

Sephiroth 01-03-2021 11:13

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
There's a huge difference between accepted usage and forced usage through the woke campaign.

1andrew1 01-03-2021 11:30

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36072428)
There's a huge difference between accepted usage and forced usage through the woke campaign.

Can you give me an example of where you've had usage forced upon you by this mysterious woke campaign?

Maggy 01-03-2021 12:03

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36072425)
Has this ever happened to you? I've been corrected on a personal pronoun use before but I didn't think of myself as being under attack.

Yes or I wouldn't have mentioned it.:rolleyes:

downquark1 01-03-2021 12:16

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
Many years ago I was accused of degendering someone when I referred to them as "they". This was on an anonymous forum with no actually indication of what gender they were. I think it was to provoke a response so I just ignored it.

1andrew1 01-03-2021 12:24

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36072439)
Yes or I wouldn't have mentioned it.:rolleyes:

Are you able to share the context? I appreciate that you may prefer not to.

The tricky thing I find is that ten years ago, you could work someone's pronouns out from their name, although some names could be both male and female. Now, unless you check beforehand on their Twitter, bio etc, you can't. Fine if you have that information but if it's someone in an audience, it's harder.


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