Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35839138)

there are some who have convinced themselves that fraudulently obtaining monies through lies and deception and then further compounding the crime by spending the stolen monies on a car is some how acceptable and is not defrauding the system simply because its done in planned stages of deception.
its fraud .

Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35839139)

That's not quite true as already stated in the posts above. If there is fraud then it is for DLA/PIP. But the OP doesn't want to talk about DLA/PIP only 'Motability benefit'.

There's been numerous posts about DLA/PIP/ESA here but for some reason that seems irrelevant or off topic because the OP doesn't understand the subject he's attacking. Yet they have everything to do with it.

As for yourself stating that you think others find it 'acceptable and not defrauding the system' is also missing the point. No one here thinks it is acceptable on any level and why you think that is the case is beyond me.

If you decide to accept (not claim) motability you have to be award DLA/PIP (the high rate mobility allowance). To be awarded this isn't because of whatever the illness or disability you have but based on what your needs/care are because of the illness/disability. Therefore you can even claim these benefits even if you are in work or fit enough to work.

ESA is the only benefit that is about being able to work or not. This has nothing to do with Motability.

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35839138)

there are some who have convinced themselves that fraudulently obtaining monies through lies and deception and then further compounding the crime by spending the stolen monies on a car is some how acceptable and is not defrauding the system simply because its done in planned stages of deception.
its fraud .

Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35839126)

Diversionary tactics. Look, a continuing spat is not helpful to the discussion and it seems it may even be upsetting for those who are unwell. Give it a rest and let people have their say unmolested eh?

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35839234)

Can you point these people out or are you just talking ....removed.... again

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Are you actually talking to anyone ? or is this load of tripe just filling time until you think of some more fact less and inaccurate rubbish to spout