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johnathome 23-03-2015 10:40

Re: TiVo
 
A lot of TV's have a power saving feature that switches it off if no buttons are pressed on the remote for a certain period of time.

Stop It 23-03-2015 10:48

Re: TiVo
 
A TiVo is not going to cause the TV to go into standby with no input on the users behalf so I think that's out. If it was due to a weird remote code you still would need to have actually pressed something on the remote!

Just looked up the TV and it appears to be 8 years old? I can't find much on it to be honest but CEC was only just coming to high end TVs back then, and wouldn't be on this one at all so that can be ruled out.

I'd be testing the TV itself if I was you. It has Freeview so try taking the TiVo out of the equation by disconnecting it, using Freeview and seeing if it goes into standby at random there If so, the TV might just be coming towards the end of it's useful life, hence the randomness of the incidents.

Wittmann 23-03-2015 16:32

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stop It (Post 35766722)
I'd be testing the TV itself if I was you. It has Freeview so try taking the TiVo out of the equation by disconnecting it, using Freeview and seeing if it goes into standby at random there If so, the TV might just be coming towards the end of it's useful life, hence the randomness of the incidents.

One thing is 100% certain, when these TV Standby`s automatically happen, I have not been anywhere near the remote.

Your suggestion of testing the TV on DTV is a good one and very practical. We do not watch DTV, but I definitely will switch it to DTV when we are not watching Cable with TiVo on Standby for a few long periods. When I am satisfied I have given it a good trial and it has not gone onto Standby, this will be my conclusion :-

The TiVo has an internal fault which activates the TV Standby at random. I will request another TiVo box. If that works OK, then the first box was definitely faulty. If I still get the TV going into Standby, then the fault is somewhere in my system.

Your suggestion is very positive thank you.

Stephen 23-03-2015 16:44

Re: TiVo
 
It won't be the TiVo doing it. I am 100% of that. It's just not something it can do.

Have you any other electrical products in the room? Energy saving bulbs?

Wittmann 23-03-2015 17:41

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35766804)
It won't be the TiVo doing it. I am 100% of that. It's just not something it can do.

Have you any other electrical products in the room? Energy saving bulbs?

No, the only thing connected to the same power box as the Cable/TiVo is the TV.

My PC is 16 feet away, connected by Virgin broadband on a different electrical connection..

Stephen 23-03-2015 18:04

Re: TiVo
 
Any led or energy saving bulbs in the room?

I've had problems when there was an led bulb in the room.

Wittmann 23-03-2015 19:03

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35766823)
Any led or energy saving bulbs in the room?

I've had problems when there was an led bulb in the room.

Just ordinary bulbs in lights. There are LED`s in the telephone, TiVo, TV and of course the PC and router.

Stephen 23-03-2015 19:05

Re: TiVo
 
No those wouldn't do it, totally different, they aren't powerful enough.

The bulbs can interfere with remote signals.

spiderplant 23-03-2015 19:18

Re: TiVo
 
You can test if IR interference is doing it by covering up the IR receiver on the TV with a bit of black tape or cardboard. Obviously you won't be able to remotely control the TV while you're doing the test.

Stephen 24-03-2015 08:48

Re: TiVo
 
Ok stop with the personal attacks please. Stick to the topic or there wil be trouble ahead.

Stop It 24-03-2015 08:59

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35766804)
It won't be the TiVo doing it. I am 100% of that. It's just not something it can do.

Have you any other electrical products in the room? Energy saving bulbs?

Indeed, but it could be a faulty HDMI port, or cable (Assuming the TiVo is connecting that way) and it's causing the TV to go awry and thus into standby.

Either way, it's best to eliminate all possibilities by taking it out of the equation, just to be sure.

Wittmann 25-03-2015 08:59

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stop It (Post 35766943)
Indeed, but it could be a faulty HDMI port, or cable (Assuming the TiVo is connecting that way) and it's causing the TV to go awry and thus into standby.

Your comment is very plausible and personally I feel on the right track.

The fault is extremely random, there is no point in waiting for it to happen, it won`t do it to please.

After all the comments and my own experience, I am convinced that there is some fault in the TiVo box control which triggers this TV Standby for some reason purely at random. TV fault ? None whatsoever. Incompatibility of TiVo with TV ? Possible, but unlikely.

As I write, the fault has not happened for 3 days consistently on Cable, but it will, unless by some chance it has gone away.

With the present pattern of events, if the fault becomes very infrequent, I can probably live with it for a while. But if it persists, I cannot accept a faulty TiVo box and will insist it is replaced.

The engineer who installed it, also fitted a new part in the Virgin wall box, so there is another variable which may be suspect.

Really, it is fairly fundamental stuff. If a system is working perfectly and a new part is installed, then faults arise - no prizes for guessing where to look eh ?

I must play the waiting game and see how it goes.

I thank every one of you for your constructive and helpful comments.

Stephen 25-03-2015 09:12

Re: TiVo
 
Why are you so sure it's the TiVo box? The TiVo cannot put your tv in stand by.

You have already been told the TiVo cannot control the stand by directly.

As mentioned it could be anything from a dodgy connector faulty hdmi, energy saving bulb or some other interference.

spiderplant 25-03-2015 09:26

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wittmann (Post 35767128)
The engineer who installed it, also fitted a new part in the Virgin wall box, so there is another variable which may be suspect.

That would be an isolator, and it's a good thing. It protects your equipment from electrical faults outside your house and vice versa.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35767133)
As mentioned it could be anything from a dodgy connector faulty hdmi, energy saving bulb or some other interference.

Or a mains power problem, a fault with the TV, and probably a few other things I haven't thought of.

Hugh 25-03-2015 09:29

Re: TiVo
 
Or a TV near the end of it's serviceable life going wrong.....


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