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Osem 09-11-2014 12:42

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Yes as much as I want us out of the EU (because I believe they have no intention of changing one jot), we have to be realistic about all this and how to achieve the desired result in the right way. We all know what Farage has promised but not how's he's going to deliver. We also need to understand that leaving is going to be a very messy affair, my argument being that staying on board a driverless train approaching the buffers at top speed is going to be more messy. As I've said my feeling is that the ONLY way to get us out is for UKIP to do some sort of deal with the Tories and this will clearly require those Euro-sceptics within the Tory party to force the issue. Anything else will simply perpetuate the status quo.

Whatever the result, my gut feeling is that we're looking at some very tough times ahead, within or without the EU. Another bubble has been created and inflated whilst folks were far too busy thanking the heavens that we'd got out of the last one (which of course we haven't). It's not a question of when it's going to pop, just how big the bang and the fallout.

Hugh 09-11-2014 13:23

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35739876)
put the cheque book back in the drawer and wave two fingers at the parasites works for me , i don't share your we can't just attitude i prefer a [we can do attitude ]negotiate my ass they would probably try to stitch us up with yet another bill its time we tell them how its going to be rule Britannia and all that .

So if we unilaterally break this treaty, why should anyone trust us in the future?

papa smurf 09-11-2014 13:29

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35739887)
So if we unilaterally break this treaty, why should anyone trust us in the future?

trust us to do what ? role over and give our country and rights away ,if others wish to trade with us they will regardless of the European experiment .
vote ukip

Russ 09-11-2014 14:25

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Yes vote UKIP because they have fantastic policies on the NHS, schools, council budgets, foreign affairs, the economy, family life etc etc

papa smurf 09-11-2014 14:39

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35739897)
Yes vote UKIP because they have fantastic policies on the NHS, schools, council budgets, foreign affairs, the economy, family life etc etc

glad your on our side brother hope you've paid your £30 membership these political campaigns cost money .
vote ukip

denphone 09-11-2014 14:45

Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
 
£30 wasted in my opinion.:)

heero_yuy 09-11-2014 14:47

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35739905)
£30 wasted in my opinion.:)

Like the ~£11 billion net contribution to the EU this year and rising. Could be much better spent on the NHS IMHO.

Russ 09-11-2014 14:52

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I'd rather drink bleach than waste a vote on UKIP.

papa smurf 09-11-2014 14:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35739905)
£30 wasted in my opinion.:)

that's between Russ and his wallet :D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35739907)
I'd rather drink bleach than waste a vote on UKIP.

old school or lemon ?:)

martyh 09-11-2014 14:55

Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35739876)
put the cheque book back in the drawer and wave two fingers at the parasites works for me , i don't share your we can't just attitude i prefer a [we can do attitude ]negotiate my ass they would probably try to stitch us up with yet another bill its time we tell them how its going to be rule Britannia and all that .

sounds like a brilliant way to bankrupt our country to me.If we simply renege on all the deals/agreements/promises we make then no country will ever do business with us.There is a set procedure for withdrawal covered under article 50 ,fairly certain the 2 fingered option isn't included

denphone 09-11-2014 15:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35739907)
I'd rather drink bleach than waste a vote on UKIP.

Here's something better for you.:beer:

papa smurf 09-11-2014 15:21

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35739916)
Here's something better for you.:beer:

i like your style that is of course the UKIP way of doing things :D

Hugh 09-11-2014 15:51

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35739917)
i like your style that is of course the UKIP way of doing things :D

So the UKIP way is to act without thinking of the consequences, and to breach legal agreements, and assume every other country will go 'No worries, UKIP will sort everything out....'.

papa smurf 09-11-2014 15:57

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35739919)
So the UKIP way is to act without thinking of the consequences, and to breach legal agreements, and assume every other country will go 'No worries, UKIP will sort everything out....'.

it was a joke hence the big grin :D it referred to the partaking of an alcoholic beverage .
your old Tory mind tricks won't work on me move along now there's nothing to see here ..

Hugh 09-11-2014 16:12

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Or as we call it, reasoned debate using facts....;)


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