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Hugh 29-12-2012 01:45

Re: Multiroom streaming ... who's ready?
 
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Originally Posted by WillPS (Post 35517405)
Of course.
As I understand it, a clause, or series of clauses exists which state something to the effect of:
i.As an integral part of this agreement, BSkyB will ensure carriage of the channels set out in Appendix x for the fixed amount set out in appendix y for a period of no less than 20 years.

The following clause or similar would ensure the Sky 1a and Sky Atlantic situation would not have occurred:
ii.In addition, BSkyB will ensure that any channels not included in Appendix x which are not Premium channels (as defined in Appendix z) will be made available at the rate set out in appendix y for a period of no less than 20 years. For the avoidance of doubt, this includes all channels (other than Premium channels) wholly owned by BSkyB or their wholly owned subsidiaries.

Yes - any company would be happy to sign a contract that states that things that don't yet exist will be covered (because, of course, that would be signing away any future product differential they have.....)

Really? have you ever been involved in major contract negotiation with a multi-national corporation?

HDFootyMan 29-12-2012 02:02

Re: Multiroom streaming ... who's ready?
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35517410)
Yes - any company would be happy to sign a contract that states that things that don't yet exist will be covered (because, of course, that would be signing away any future product differential they have.....

I did try to point this out at the time but people on CF were too outraged at Sky Atlantic's absence on VM to realise that no company is going to allow a competitor access to a product which doesn't even exist yet - let alone give away a valuable USP.

Oh - and the channel selection via MRS is, well, currently crap.

WillPS 29-12-2012 03:01

Re: Multiroom streaming ... who's ready?
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35517410)
Yes - any company would be happy to sign a contract that states that things that don't yet exist will be covered (because, of course, that would be signing away any future product differential they have.....)

Really? have you ever been involved in major contract negotiation with a multi-national corporation?

Yes, in the last couple of weeks no less. Sky clearly wanted control of VMTV pretty badly (they paid a massive sum).

Future proofing a contract is standard, especially when you are selling your future negotiation power.

carlwaring 29-12-2012 10:53

Re: Multiroom streaming ... who's ready?
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35517408)
Or perhaps the fact that Sky have it as "exclusive" may be a clue.....

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35517409)
Or they used the brilliant negotiation team that didn't foresee Sky Movies Classics HD.

Of the two, I think Hugh's is the more likely really.

---------- Post added at 09:53 ---------- Previous post was at 09:50 ----------

One further question about MRS (as I only have the one Tivo!)

If you have one Tivo in one room and another in another and they both have the same channels on them, why on earth would you either want or need to stream the same channels from one box to the other. Your own programmes I can understand, but you have the same channels on all boxes.

Or did I miss something? :confused:

muppetman11 29-12-2012 12:03

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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35517450)
Of the two, I think Hugh's is the more likely really.

---------- Post added at 09:53 ---------- Previous post was at 09:50 ----------

One further question about MRS (as I only have the one Tivo!)

If you have one Tivo in one room and another in another and they both have the same channels on them, why on earth would you either want or need to stream the same channels from one box to the other. Your own programmes I can understand, but you have the same channels on all boxes.

Or did I miss something? :confused:

Isn't it pretty obvious

Your children are watching a show in your main room as guests call , they can go into your other room and continue where they left off.

The other advantage is for non PVR customers who can watch PVR recordings in another room (not available on VM yet).

howardmicks 29-12-2012 13:35

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:banghead:
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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35517450)
Of the two, I think Hugh's is the more likely really.

---------- Post added at 09:53 ---------- Previous post was at 09:50 ----------

One further question about MRS (as I only have the one Tivo!)

If you have one Tivo in one room and another in another and they both have the same channels on them, why on earth would you either want or need to stream the same channels from one box to the other. Your own programmes I can understand, but you have the same channels on all boxes.

Or did I miss something? :confused:

:banghead:
Recorded programmes streaming from one box to another so you don't have to record same program on both,but unbelievably the selection(no surprise vm) available is worse than the ipad.yet again vm's failure to deliver again

carlwaring 29-12-2012 14:19

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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35517495)
Recorded programmes streaming from one box to another so you don't have to record same program on both.

Yes. I get that bit :)

---------- Post added at 13:19 ---------- Previous post was at 13:17 ----------

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35517477)
Isn't it pretty obvious

I guess not :)

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Your children are watching a show in your main room as guests call , they can go into your other room and continue where they left off.
They can do that already, pretty-much?

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The other advantage is for non PVR customers who can watch PVR recordings in another room (not available on VM yet).
Of course. But that's recordings, not channels; which is all you have at the moment. Which was my point :)

muppetman11 29-12-2012 15:10

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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35517501)
They can do that already, pretty-much?

Carl as you well know we're talking MRS which is streaming recordings from one box to another why on earth would you think we're on about live linear TV on a thread specifically about Multiroom streaming


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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35517501)
Of course. But that's recordings, not channels; which is all you have at the moment. Which was my point :)

Why would you need to stream linear channels when you have another STB with a viewing card to receive them , seriously Carl what an earth are you on about.

nstokes 29-12-2012 15:17

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I dont see where Carl is going with this. MRS is obvious its called MULTI ROOM STREAM for RECORDED content. Like everyone has said if you have 2 boxes then no need to stream LIVE channels. Streaming RECORDED content makes sense

carlwaring 29-12-2012 16:09

Re: Multiroom streaming ... who's ready?
 
Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification. Will leave you all to it :)

howardmicks 29-12-2012 18:20

Re: Multiroom streaming ... who's ready?
 
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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35517549)
Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification. Will leave you all to it :)

:D

Qtx 29-12-2012 18:29

Re: Multiroom streaming ... who's ready?
 
So is this multiroom streaming similar to having a plex server with addons and a tv with a plex type client?

Doz007 27-01-2013 11:18

Re: Multiroom streaming ... who's ready?
 
Have any new channels been added to the MRS list yet?

Sirius 27-01-2013 11:31

Re: Multiroom streaming ... who's ready?
 
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Originally Posted by Doz007 (Post 35528267)
Have any new channels been added to the MRS list yet?

I hope they do, i might start using it then.

denphone 27-01-2013 11:32

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35528277)
I hope they do, i might start using it then.

Indeed me as well but as we all know its coming soon.:)


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