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denphone 17-05-2011 05:44

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35237996)
Here is the timetable:

http://www.competition-commission.or...March_2011.pdf

Should be done at the latest by 3 August 2012

A very long wait indeed, look everybody knows Sky abuse their position even the competition commission so why such a long wait, by this time Sky will have bought another 4 companies and launched another 5 channels.:erm::erm:

Digital Fanatic 19-08-2011 09:30

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Sky's control over pay-TV movie rights in the UK is restricting competition, leading to higher prices and reduced choice, the Competition Commission has provisionally ruled.

The commission said it was considering whether to restrict the number of Hollywood studios from which Sky currently has the exclusive rights to be the first to air their new releases.
Linkage HERE

muppetman11 19-08-2011 09:43

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35289927)
Linkage HERE

A final ruling is due next year.
:shocked: How Long.

The commission said it was considering whether to restrict the number of Hollywood studios from which Sky currently has the exclusive rights to be the first to air their new releases.
STUPID IDEA.

It is also considering restricting the nature of Sky's rights with the Hollywood studios, such as giving its rivals the chance to offer subscription video on demand.
FAR BETTER IDEA :tu:

Digital Fanatic 19-08-2011 09:58

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35289931)
A final ruling is due next year.
:shocked: How Long.

The commission said it was considering whether to restrict the number of Hollywood studios from which Sky currently has the exclusive rights to be the first to air their new releases.
STUPID IDEA.

It is also considering restricting the nature of Sky's rights with the Hollywood studios, such as giving its rivals the chance to offer subscription video on demand.
FAR BETTER IDEA :tu:

They really drag things out, don't they :D

Yeah, I agree the SVOD rights is the area that needs reform.

muppetman11 19-08-2011 10:10

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35289935)
They really drag things out, don't they :D

Yeah, I agree the SVOD rights is the area that needs reform.

If you just limit Sky to say three studios with exclusive deals that still means customers of other companies like Lovefilm etc can't watch first run movies from Sky's three exclusive studios so in my eyes that's a silly idea. I like how it says Sky could be made to allow other movie services on its EPG , at least you then have choice.

The Guardians Take
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...llywood-movies

muppetman11 19-08-2011 19:53

Re: sky movies (excess profits)
 
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35289927)
Linkage HERE

Found this DF , this is Sky's views can't say I agree with too much of it but worth a read.

http://corporate.sky.com/documents/p...iew_submission

denphone 19-08-2011 20:10

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35290098)
Found this DF , this is Sky's views can't say I agree with too much of it but worth a read.

http://corporate.sky.com/documents/p...iew_submission

Yes a typical Sky reaction in my mind still defending themselves when everybody else knows of their market dominance in this area.

OLD BOY 19-08-2011 21:11

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35289939)
If you just limit Sky to say three studios with exclusive deals that still means customers of other companies like Lovefilm etc can't watch first run movies from Sky's three exclusive studios so in my eyes that's a silly idea. I like how it says Sky could be made to allow other movie services on its EPG , at least you then have choice.

The Guardians Take
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...llywood-movies

They should simply stipulate that where Sky does an exclusivity deal, it must allow other providers access to the channels showing it at a wholesale price. I don't see why the Competition Commission cannot see that this is the best solution.

And if they make it video on demand only, they should enable other providers to also show the film on their VOD, again, at a wholesale price. The same goes with exclusive drama series, etc.

zantarous 19-08-2011 22:37

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They need to get rid of the whole exclusivity for movies, can you imagine in the VHS rental days if different chains had the rights to different movies? We need multiple premium movie channels that show the same films that compete on price.

Digital Fanatic 19-08-2011 22:59

Re: sky movies (excess profits)
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35290098)
Found this DF , this is Sky's views can't say I agree with too much of it but worth a read.

http://corporate.sky.com/documents/p...iew_submission

Cheers.. they are bound to defend their position.. I think the CC will rule against them and open up the Movies market. SVOD is the best area for the CC to concentrate on.

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Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35290186)
They need to get rid of the whole exclusivity for movies, can you imagine in the VHS rental days if different chains had the rights to different movies? We need multiple premium movie channels that show the same films that compete on price.

Yes.. the customer would benefit from that.

zantarous 19-08-2011 23:19

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Can you remember when there was Sky and BSB and each had deals with three movie studios each so you couldn't see all the films on one system? That turned into a blood bath and IIRC they really went to town on spending money to get those exclusive agreements in the first place.

muppetman11 24-08-2011 21:01

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Not good news

http://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419...ow-until-2014/

denphone 24-08-2011 21:03

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35292052)

No we could have to wait ages looking at this.

Jameseh 24-08-2011 21:13

Re: sky movies (excess profits)
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35292055)
No we could have to wait ages looking at this.

It'll give Netflix some time to start up and Amazon sometime to close Lovefilm and bring their brilliant Amazon Instant Video over here.

devilincarnate 15-03-2012 15:17

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Sky has been given a boost in the battle to retain its stranglehold over pay-TV movie rights, after subscription streaming services Netflix and LoveFilm were dragged into the Competition Commission's investigation of the sector.

Last August, the UK's competition regulator said that Sky's multi-million pound deals with the major Hollywood studios - including Warner Bros, Paramount, Sony and Disney - were throttling competition in the movies market and must be weakened to allow rivals to operate effectively.

The commission, which has been reviewing the pay-TV movies market since it was referred the task by Ofcom in 2010, said that it will now publish its final report in July, after opting to run further investigation of key changes in the digital movies market.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...ies-probe.html

http://www.competition-commission.or...gs_excised.pdf

http://www.competition-commission.or...le_mar2012.pdf


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