Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 35014021)

Whilst I don't care that he died, I do feel sorry for his family.

Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35014023)

What if the family knew what he was up to and the risks involved?

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35013951)

Perhaps the context is a bit too intricate for you to comprehend Marty but no, I wouldn't want to knock your crown.



Currently it would appear that he died not as a result of doing what was required of him but rather as a result of doing what was required of him whist not employing sufficient safety requirements (common sense or otherwise) given the nature of the activity he was involved in.

On the matter of "doing what was required of him" perhaps the guy at the powerstation was attempting to provide for his children by stealing the copper? Who knows? Either way your crass indignance speaks volumes.

In any event I'm not seeking to belittle either death for comedic laughs nor, as you are given to, making derisory comments at the expense of someone elses dignity - or indeed the dignity of their families - simply because they lost their lives due to an oversight or lack of judgement on their part.



Referring to their father as "mr crispy" and making derisory comments about him not caring enough is a funny way of showing sympathy to his children. I'm sure, like the loss of their father, your "sympathy" is something they could well do without having to bear.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35013951)

On the matter of "doing what was required of him" perhaps the guy at the powerstation was attempting to provide for his children by stealing the copper? Who knows? Either way your crass indignance speaks volumes.

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35014236)

He died because he was a moron trying to steal copper cabling from a live 30,000 volt electricity sub station which would have been plastered with plenty of "Danger of Death" signs in the immediate vicinity.

He caused his own death by virtue of his own greed and lack of common sense and I would feel no pity for any other person who died in a similar way way while attempting to steal.

The argument of he was only trying to provide for his family falls flat as he should have got himself a job instead of stealing from others, and if he had done that then this thread would not exist and he would be alive.

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35014242)

I have not posted in the Sea Cadet thread and that was an accident where he died in less than 4 minutes doing what he loved, so no reason for him to be mentioned here in this thread, so check first before making a comment as I think it is a shameful and low comment to make about that cadet by anyone.

The post above was a general post with part of your post used as a sounding board.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35014244)

Yes, and the part of my post which you quoted was specific to the sea cadet - hence my assuming that was who you were referring to.

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35014250)

I quoted wrong bit I think you can see they were unconnected so now corrected must be tired so off to bed.;)

Originally Posted by speedfreak (Post 35014265)

I blame Gordon Brown :D

Lighten up, no point falling out over a difference of opinion

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35014220)

I see you have a real difficulty with logical debate once your "hang 'em all" attitude is challenged, don't you?



I didn't justify his actions nor did I try to justify them - that is something your overly furtive teenage imagination has dreamed up. I posited a scenario where perhaps the possibility that Mr Ehlert was actively, in his own estimation, trying to provide for his children by stealing the copper should be considered. That's why I included the question mark thingys (?), see?





That'll be Mr Ehlert - whom you have referred to variously as "mr (sic) crispy (sic)", A "freakin' idiot" and a "numpty". Additionally in doing so you have celebrated his death, and exposed your absolute disdain for those unfortunate enough not to have a job by way of your spectacularly inept, yet insightful, assertion “and i will take delight in his death ,the freakin' idiot has served some purpose in cutting the unemployment figures and not being a burden on the state anymore ..good riddance to the numpty�.



I can see you are going flat out to endear the unemployed members of the forum to your warm, glowing personality. That's a nice line in sweeping generalizations you've got going on there. Perhaps you'd like to introduce gas chambers for the disabled while you're jumping to conclusions as to peoples dignity?



Ah, the old "it's a shame....". Yes Marty it is, it's a shame you have nothing better to do than while your days away on a discussion forum wishing ill will on people you neither know nor care about just because of your preconceived prejudices as far as the unemployed are concerned.



Again, nowhere have I expressed sympathy.



You really should do something about that chip you have on your shoulder mate. Playground jibes like that bring nothing to the debate.

I had hoped to have a mature discussion on your ethical position on this but it's obvious you're not up to it.

Originally Posted by speedfreak (Post 35014265)

I blame Gordon Brown :D

Lighten up, no point falling out over a difference of opinion