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Hugh 02-04-2009 20:26
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34767530)
You don't say much do you? You mostly just think :)
You should try it.

Gary L 02-04-2009 20:44
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34767559)
You should try it.
If you can find a ladder. I'll climb down and try it with you.

SMG 02-04-2009 22:19
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Originally Posted by rogermevans (Post 34767553)
hmm guess you don't live near the schools i do the kids often cross a motorway speed road instead of using the bridge none knocked over so far as they seem to be able to judge either when there is a big enough gap or when the driver has spotted them and will slow ( note i dont condone what they do as they are risking thier lives )

so i would say the kids can easily demonstrate that they are capable of judging these speeds when they are concertrating

Totally disagree with that. I live 500 yds from the A580, East Lancs Rd. I have 3 schools all closer to the lancs than me. A Nursery, Junior school & a senior school with about 1500 kids. The seniors regularly cross the lancs rather than use the tunnel.

The death rate was so high that the council built a footbridge. The death rate continued, despite the measures taken. About a quarter of a mile away, the M61 slip rd joins the lancs. Motorists continued to drive at 70, despite the 60mph lancs limit. The speed limit was further dropped to 50 mph. The deaths became injuries, & less frequent.

Then a speed camera was fitted prior to the section of road where the kids cross. The accident rate took a nosedive. Now, whenever there is a reported accident, it is normally the motorist, who has ignored the limits & been prosecuted for speeding & dangerous driving. This to me is a success story. As the TV ads say, speed kills.

keyholder 03-04-2009 02:41
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Originally Posted by Tuftus (Post 34767400)
I would say that stepping out in front of the car was also a factor.
Possibly so, However, Did this Girl see the car coming in the dark ?

Of course not, why, coz pc plod never had his lights on.

scenario.

Girls walknig down the street, she looks,cant see no car, no blue lights, walk out on the rd, oops.

she looks again, see blue flashing lights with fast car coming towards her, , she dont cross the road. life saved. ..

Almost 10 time outa 10 a person will stop and turn around or look for the bluelights that they see flashing away.

How many times has anyone seen pc plod stick thier lights & siren on as soon as they give chase ? Most of the time they will follow, only then when the person who is being followed speeds up do they give it the works.

The advert you see on tv, fighting against crime, then You get Admin edit (Chris): Language, please. saying, They dont rule the streets, WE DO. :rolleyes: thats the polices attitude all over.

No mate, u do NOT rule the streets, you PROTECT them, :dunce:well thats what your surposed to do.:rolleyes:

Druchii 03-04-2009 09:36
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So she suddenly can't see headlights?

zing_deleted 03-04-2009 09:42
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Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 34767781)
So she suddenly can't see headlights?
The car would have traveled 3 times the distance @90mph than it would @30. Can you hold your hands up and say to me you have never ever crossed a road using your timing and knowing how fast traffic normally travels on the road when you see a car in what should be plenty of distance away to get across the road?

Druchii 03-04-2009 09:55
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Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34767784)
The car would have traveled 3 times the distance @90mph than it would @30. Can you hold your hands up and say to me you have never ever crossed a road using your timing and knowing how fast traffic normally travels on the road when you see a car in what should be plenty of distance away to get across the road?
I guess that's what makes me different, i always check.

My Gradma was killed crossing the road by a speeding driver when i was little though... This was at night however, and the brow of a hill factored into it. She also had issues walking properly, meaning her feet were always in pain, which slowed her down a lot.

Guess i'm just fighting from a personal standpoint here Zingy.

Gary L 08-04-2009 15:07
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He has been found guilty of causing death by dangerous driving.

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Judge David Hodson said: "You will be remanded in custody and you must appreciate that the inevitable outcome of a conviction of an offence of this nature is an immediate sentence of custody."

The jury of eight women and four men took an hour and a half to reach its unanimous verdict.

Dougal was remanded in custody to be sentenced on 1 May.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7990188.stm

Peter_ 08-04-2009 15:23
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34771401)
He has been found guilty of causing death by dangerous driving.




http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7990188.stm
Lets hope our so called "Qualified Police Driver" gets a sentence fitting to the horrendous crime he committed and I hope all the soft shoe pedlars who posted the utter drivel about crossing the road and how a nice policeman could not be found guilty are now able to eat their words, but I doubt that.

He chose the way he acted and was rightly found guilty and I hope he loses his job as Hayley his victim will never have the chance to even get a job thanks to him.


And for all you that posted on here about the being no need to put his police lights on just read the following
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Retired police inspector and police driving standards expert Gordon Robertson said he "could not imagine" a situation where Dougal should have accelerated to more than 90mph, without activating his blue lights or siren.

Hugh 08-04-2009 15:28
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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34771408)
Lets hope our so called "Qualified Police Driver" gets a sentence fitting to the horrendous crime he committed and I hope all the soft shoe pedlars who posted the utter drivel about crossing the road and how a nice policeman could not be found guilty are now able to eat their words, but I doubt that.

He chose the way he acted and was rightly found guilty and I hope he loses his job as Hayley his victim will never have the chance to even get a job thanks to him.


And for all you that posted on here about the being no need to put his police lights on just read the following
Justice has been served, but I would point out the "expert witness" also stated
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At the time of the crash, the qualified advanced driver was travelling so fast he had effectively become a passenger in his own car and had surrendered "to physics", an expert witness told the jury
which means that anyone speeding on the motorway is effectively a "passenger in their own car"?

Peter_ 08-04-2009 15:33
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34771410)
Justice has been served, but I would point out the "expert witness" also stated


which means that anyone speeding on the motorway is effectively a "passenger in their own car"?
That has more to do I would say with regards to the type of road he was driving on which was not a 3 lane motorway designed for speed and without pedestrians for you to hit.

Gary L 08-04-2009 15:36
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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34771408)
Lets hope our so called "Qualified Police Driver" gets a sentence fitting to the horrendous crime he committed
I knew he would get a prison sentence, but I only think it'll be a couple of months.

Peter_ 08-04-2009 15:43
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34771417)
I knew he would get a prison sentence, but I only think it'll be a couple of months.
It will only be proper justice if he loses his job and his pension.

Gary L 08-04-2009 15:47
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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34771426)
It will only be proper justice if he loses his job and his pension.
I think he knows that already.

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When asked if he would drive in that way again, Dougal replied: “It would have to be in a police vehicle and I don’t think I could do that. I don’t think I will drive a police vehicle again.”

chaos23 08-04-2009 16:18
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I see Police speeding without their Blue lights on a weekly basis. They think they are above the law.


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