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Nice one Arsenal, nothing like having the gooners doing all the hard work for you :D

I don't know what sounds better, eight points clear of Chelsea or 18 (yes, 18) ahead of Arsenal :spin:

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Of course another way to look at it is, they are a young team that's learning where as yours is an old team that's fading, if this team don't do it this year then they probably never will

Anyway why has nobody started an anyone but Chelsea thead? :D

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Well I can handle being a fading team and 8 points clear at the top of the premiership :D

Weren't we described as 'fading' back in 2002 as well?

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Hardly in their prime are they, at this rate you'll be wanting Sheringham back on loan as well

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I agree, Rooney and Ronaldo have yet to hit their peak. Of the regular squad, 4 are over 30, which means the remaining 7 erm..aren't.

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Please the core of your team is over the hill, a part from those two and maybe Heinze? who else is there that is anything other than ordinary

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8 points clear, no-one comes close on the goal difference and they are an ordinary team :erm: :nutter: :D :D extra-ordinary I say ;)

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Extra-ordinarily lucky... 3rd come the end of the season i would say.

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Alright the likes of Fletcher, O'Shea, Richardson etc really set the world on fire my mistake, when the old boy's start to feel the pace when the pitches get boggy you'll be relying on them, good luck

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Slow down there Chet, players don't normally hit their peak til around 27/28.

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and they are normally considered past it at 32- 33 ;), as for the others mentioned how many players of their talent would have got in your team six or seven years ago

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Not always. How old is Gary Speed again? ;)

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It's hard to say, seeing as football styles tend to change over that period of time - why, what's your point?

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Thats why I said normally ;)

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Point being they wouldn't have got close as they aren't good enough, unless thats your point about styles changing, going from talented to crap

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Yep, and that crap is what has put us 8 points clear at the top of the premiership.

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I am sorry are you putting the teams success down to them then now and not the old boy's + Rooney and Ronaldo?

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So what age do you consider a player to be an 'old boy'? Over 30? Because only 4 of the team are at that stage - 2 are current internationals, and one is a retired international who was recently asked back?

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Hmm aren't you eligible for your PFA pension at 34

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going back to the derby game at the weekend.. City showed how well a team can do just by working hard and chasing the ball.. man for men they are a very poor side compared to us but their workrate put us to shame and showed just how well a team can do just by working hard.. if England put in those sort of levels of work rate in their matches they might actually win something

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Mind you, Ronaldo's much better at diving than Corradi ;)

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The London derby was a superb game to watch. I thoroughly enjoyed it, despite being dissapointed we've slipped further behind Utd. Essiens goal - goal of the season?? :D

As a Chelsea fan, I am concerned this season. There is not a lot to compare between Utd and Chelsea in all honesty. But Utd seem to be more consistent this year and some of their key players have hit early form, wheras Chelsea have a few players out with injury (Cech and Cole most notably) and a few who just aren't performing.

We have a chance on Wednesday to close the gap to 5 points, which I think we'll do quite comfortably against Newcastle.

Its Utd's goal difference that worries me most...

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true Ronaldo is a true master.. although Drogba was trying to give him a good run for his money on Sunday

read some comments from Pearce saying he has condemned Corradi for it but that is just some sound bite for the press it won't cut it out of the game

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No denying Drogba can go down like a sack of spuds, but c'mon! What about the pussy between the posts for Arsenal, who doesn't like getting his hair messy!? :D

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Dun'no mate, I think I read in the People yesterday that Corradi is now homesick and want's to return to Italy, might have something to do with the rollicking Psycho gave him ;)

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i doubt the two are connected and where would you rather live.. Manchester where it rains all the time or Italy ?

never been a fan of Lehman as he has been known to dive alot and stamp on players and is just a horrible player just like Drogba.. can't stand either of them really

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Are you a City fan by any chance? I'm only asking because you seem to be extremely bitter.

By saying the core of your team is over the hill i take it you mean Van der Sar, Neville, Giggs and Scholes as these are the first team players over 30.

Van der Sar has conceded the fewest goals in the premiership so far and is first choice Dutch goalkeeper and captain. Neville is part of the strongest defence in the premiership, club captain and first choice England right back. Giggs is playing the best football of his career and is captain of Wales. Scholes is being constantly begged by England to come out of retirement and is being named as one of the players of the season by most pundits.

I fail to see how they are 'over the hill' as it seems that they are playing some of the best football of their careers and still performing at the top level. You have to face the facts United are top by eight points (probably five come Wednesday) have conceded fewest goals and have scored the most. I seriously doubt its luck 17 games into the season.

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I am not a City fan, I am not from Manchester ;), neither am I bitter, in fact I would take great pleasure if you won it, in fact if anyone won it other than Chelsea, nor did I mention luck, I did say that over half of your 'good players' are long past 30 and their replacements are not of a standard to fill in.

Although I have to admit I am reassessing the word's 'past it' perhaps veteran would be better as, Van der Sar, he is a goalkeeper as long as alzheimer's doesn't set and he can keep his concentration he should be all right, Giggs by his managers own admission only turns up for one game in three so those six hundred odd games are in fact only two hundred so he'll be fine, Scholes well seeing as he has had the best part of two seasons off he should be fine to and Gary Neville should have plenty left in the tank considering he spent the first five or six years of his career stuffed up David Beckhams backside. So in fact the only thing that makes these players veterans and past it is their birth certificates.

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TheDaddy is getting pre-match nerves before next weekends, West Ham v Man U game, me thinks. ;)

I do hope our "pensioners" can cope with West Hams youth. :D

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:rolleyes: Just because i personally am not from Manchester does not mean i cannot support Manchester United. I actually go to the majority of home matches and have been for the past six seasons so don't start that 'not from Manchester' rubbish.

I don't think you can properly rate the younger players coming through like Richardson and Rossi until they get a proper run in the first team. When the likes of Beckham, Neville, Butt and Scholes came through the youth team they were being written off straight away. The qutoe 'You never win anything with kids' comes to mind ;) It's difficult for any player with a bit part in a team to show how good they actually are.

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The trouble with that is Rossi and Richardson didn't actually come through from your youth team did they ;)

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Count yourselves lucky you aren't at our place when it matters, twice we cost you the title ;)

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Oh I think we've paid you back 10 fold since then. ;)

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Maybe, I remember the Kenny Brown one, last match of the season IIRC, I sold my ticket in the pub before the match for £80 or something similar because I thought we'd get thumped, I was gutted ;)

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Does that actually matter? They are still young players.:shrug:

Also the United reserves have won the reserve league north the past two seasons and unlike some teams they play players who have come through the youth team, so they do infact have some talented young players coming through the system.

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Depends who they get stolen from really, not that Richardson's been missed, Etherington's better imo

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Not the last game of the season though, we played Liverpool and Tottenham after that. And West Ham played Coventry and Nott'm Forest, before finishing bottom that season.

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It was our last home game wasn't it?

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No, Forest was, you won 3 - 0 but were already relegated.

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I can't really comment on that as i don't watch West Ham play that often but seeing that one plays for the side top of the league and the other plays for a side facing relegation i find it hard to believe what you have said.

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Was that the McAvennie hat trick?

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Yeah alright one's been injured and unfit all season and the other's one of your back up players, you work it out

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I couldn't tell you that, but try here for stats, and other info. That's where I got mine from. :D

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and there was me thinking you were some sort of statistics genius :D, tbh the seasons just sort of blur into one and I thought that the Man Utd ticket came out of my season ticket that's all, don't really matter ;)

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Some of it is from memory, but please...........statistic genius. :rofl:

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well i've never rated Richardson or Park for that matter and don't think either are good enough for United

Rossi could turn into a striker like Owen.. very small but can still do the business it's just a shame that when we could have played him this season during the past few games he's been on loan at Newcastle not even playing

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As i said before it's difficult to rate Richardson because he has never really had a proper run in the first team. Park is useful because he is versatile and is really only a back up player anyway. I think Rossi will be a good player in the future and i think Ferguson will be annoyed he's not getting many games at Newcastle.

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Pardew has gone !

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Kinky Kev's in charge :D, feel quite sorry for Pardew, they should have given him a bit longer imo

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i have to say I don't really think it is his fault.. if i didn't do my job at work my manager wouldn't get the sack.. i still think he's a pretty decent manager adn just look at Charlton Dowie left and all the players said they were glad he has gone and they are still doing just as bad

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The buck stops with him, that said he never had it easy, what with the constant takeover talk, not to mention the noses that were put out of joint when he had the audacity to sign two world class players

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this time I deffo think its mainly due to players f**king up too much or just being bloody slackers.

ditto as with Mr Incredible I mean Iain Dowie.... players have too much power really

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I agree we slack we get sacked, they slack the manager get's the bullet, team gets relegated and the players demand transfers to better clubs, mad world :td:

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not mad...Daddy.....sad really... there are not alot of players with any form of loyalty anymore towards their team or manager

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The only manager that gets shown any sort of loyalty is at the bank! It just shows how big their ego's have got when on the day of relegation they storm into the manager's office demanding transfers, if football had any sense of reality no club would want players that weren't good enough to keep one of their rivals up

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Saw this on YouTube, cracks me up remembering it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz_mgHPvuBU

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Its been said before, but Stuart Pearce... Top bloke...

Pearcy for PM!

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Psycho is a legend, especially in this part of the country. A lot of forest fans keep tabs on Man City (and Aston Villa) for that reason.

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as i said early that will make no difference.. sure it's a sound bite for the press and makes him look good but if he had dived and got a pen that kept City from being relagated would the comment be the same then ?

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Yes. Pearcy isn't known for bs-ing.

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Not long to go now ;)

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Often teams look to be putting in a lot of effort when they are chasing the ball all over the pitch, trying to get it off superior opponents,:) Worth remembering that United had played a hard Champions League Cup match less than 3 days earlier, City had 7 days to prepare.

Jim.

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:Peace: Don't believe the hype...it doesn't always rain here...it just gives the commentators something to prattle on about ;)

Sorry, but Richardson is a useless bag of...

West Ham are laughing over selling him. He has had chances in the first team and didn't take them.

Though with Rossi, he does look like he has potential. I just think that he needs to given more of a chance at OT.

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Curbishley to be announced as the new West Ham United boss.......

I expect DAD will be pleased ;)

No link yet as nobody dare publish it, but, when Sven was asked what he thought about the probable Curbishley announcement , he commented, " I couldn't care less, the FA are still paying me £30,000 a week :confused:

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Here is a link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/6171205.stm

and yes I am pleased, here's why

"West Ham are my club. I come from Canning Town, grew up as a trainee, became a first-team regular and sat at the feet of the incomparable Bobby Moore.

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FC Porto v Chelsea
Celtic v AC Milan
PSV Eindhoven v Arsenal
Lille v Manchester United
Roma v Lyon
Barcelona v Liverpool
Real Madrid v Bayern Munich
Internazionale v Valencia

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AEK Athens v PSG
Bayer Leverkusen v Blackburn
Benfica v Dinamo Bucuresti
Bordeaux v Osasuna
Braga v Parma
CSKA Moscow v Maccabi Haifa
Fenerbahce v AZ
Feyenoord v Tottenham
Hapoel Tel-Aviv v Rangers
Lens v Panathinaikos
Livorno v Espanyol
Shakhtar Donetsk v AS Nancy
Spartak Moscow v Celta Vigo
Steaua Bucuresti v Sevilla
Werder Bremen v Ajax
Zulte-Waregem v Newcastle

.....

Oh joys. Another Israeli team comes to Ibrox.

Time for lifelong Rangers fan. Sean Patrick John Paul O'Neill Connelly to invade the pitch in protest and Rangers to be slapped with another fine. :mad:

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Feyenoord... Could be worse... But still at least as Jol is Dutch, that should help...

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I had to think about that for a minute, I thought you were talking about yourself :nworthy: .......
Then after looking at the link you gave, I thought, you must be talking about yourself, as the italic quote was not visible on that link....

Who are you in real life, Trevor Brooking ? :jk:

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I had a bad feeling about the game. I remember thinking earlier when Chelsea were losing that at least it won't be so bad if we lose!

Well done to West Ham. That said, maybe if you put that sort of effort in against all team, not just when you play the big teams, you might not be so far down the table

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Yep, well done to the hammers :tu:

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Awful day for English football - but everyone can have an off day.

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I am not saying anything, except I hope you beat Chelsea to the title

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I'll say nothing either then. ;)

Except...........

Comments I agree entirely with.

You've now beaten Man U, and arsenal at home, and only narrowly lost 1 - 0 away to Chelsea. You've also lost home matches against Newcastle, Reading and wigan. If I was a West Ham supporter, I would be down to the training ground, asking questions of the players dishonesty so far this season.

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Hopefully those issues will be addressed in the transfer window ;)

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I hope you're right, for your teams sake. Good start for Alan Curbishley though, a manager I have a lot of time for. Look at Charlton now, since he left them, the bloke obviously has something. Alan Curbishley is an honest manager, a rarity these days, and a nice bloke too. Make sure you hang onto a decent manager this time. ;)

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Yes, well done to all the West Ham players (especially the one with the whistle :rolleyes: ;) )

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You know comments like that make victory all the sweeter, what's wrong are you upset because the referee didn't play injury time until you guys scored like the old days ;)

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I love the sound of Bitter Man U fans in the morning...

Ahhhhh, drink it in..

The Chetski goals yesterday : WHOOOSH! Crackers!

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Who's bitter? West Ham worked hard and got a result.
Nice bit of play by the oldest man on the pitch to create the goal.
Had to laugh at Harewood's blood curdling scream at the end and then his miraculous healing. ;)

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Oh how I love the sound of bitter Falkirk fans (not that I hear that many) on a Monday morning.

Makes me larf and cheers me up no end, on hearing what you have to post...

Is you league so bad that you have to entertain yourself by looking to see how a team in another country did? ;)

You might consider following a different sport in future... ;)

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No, i just thought he made some poor decision that probably didn't cost us the game in the end actually. I thought you were lucky and think you will be coming down to earth in the next few weeks, Curbishley isnt the right man for what most West ham fans want. I reckon you would be better off with Sven:disturbd:

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:rofl: Now I know you are taking the pish

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What has Curbishley achieved in his managerial career, 15 years of being consistantly poor with Charlton and thats about it. From what i hear West ham fans want European football and tropheys, i don't think he will bring either of them. Sven has had alot of success with club football, maybe he would have been better :erm:

(to be honest i just want him in a job before Fergie retires :) )

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West Ham fans want a manager that either knows or was brought up with the best traditions of the club and that plays football the way it was meant to be played, anything else is a bonus

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15 years of being consistently poor? For those who dont follow a team with an attendance and income of the likes of Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal etc etc, mid table would not be seen as being considered poor. Most pundits in the game associate Curbs with being a succesful manager based on teh resources he has had to work with. I suggest they know more about football than you do.

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Want a manager that was brought up with the best traditions of the club AND plays the right way?

Curbishley is the former, but his Charlton side was always pretty direct.

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Maybe i shouldn't have said 'poor' but consistantly mid-table or lower, which is what i thought West Ham didn't want. From what i have been reading West ham fans expect Curbishley to get them into Europe and high up the table in the future. I was just pointing out that Sven has been successful in doing this and might have been a better appointment to do that job. I actually hope i'm proven wrong because Curbishley is one of the few managers that i like because he very rarely moans about things such as referees decisions like Wenger, Mourinhio etc

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LOL!

A bitter Falkirk fan? I've never heard of such a thing, in the last 4 games we've had Rangers, Celtic and Hibs succumb to the force of the Blue Army...

This is GREAT time to be a bairn.

Get it right up ye - bitter Mank!

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Huh?

Did you forget about the defeats to Kilmarnock and Motherwell after the Celtic match?

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You cut your cloth according to what talent you have available, especially when you have an unfashionable team that has to make do with players that other teams don't want

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Not at all, but unlike most Mink U fans i don't expect us to win every game only to survive in the SPL.

Trust me - trying to pick at me by slagging Falkirk is a waste of your time right now.

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You said..

In your last 4 games you have beaten Rangers and Hibs and lost to Aberdeen and Motherwell.

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hey all....some light entertainment for ya.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6190379.stm


and leave poor ol' TBR alone he's only doing a good thing like winding up the ManU fans.

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i'm not sure if Sven has been good at doing that though. Sure he took Lazio to the title but only after nearly bankrupting the club and he wouldn't be allowed to do that at WHU

Not sure if Sven has ever really turned around another club, although I seem to remember he might have been at Malmo when they got to the European Cup Final but that was over 20 years ago and the game has moved on a lot since then.

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I didn't realise you had two usernames on this forum - your only allowed one..

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Nice change of subject. But it leaves me saying huh? :confused:

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Yes! You!

It really does look like you are still having problems with who you support.

That offer of help that I gave you a few months ago, still stands you know. You follow a team called Falkirk. That is the team who should support, not any English team that's not United (or do you secretly like the English?)

Now lets get to the root of the problem...is it because you, over the last few years, feel inferior to Celtic and Rangers? You don't feel safe going "nah, nah, na na na - you lost!", as over the long run they can easily retort. So you feel safe saying it to fans of a team who do not play in your own league and it's not like you're going to meet us in Europe (unless the teams are in the same hotel for a pre-season friendly).

Overcome that nervousness.

Just ask if you need any more help.

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Here was me thinking you were being pedantic... :p:

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Can your remind me of the scores at the weekend? :D

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Just look here. See that's the first step to supporting your own team. Knowing where to look for Falkirk's results.

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I was at the game mate, i dont need to look to websites for the score - thats the difference when your not a sofa supporter like yourself.

Glad to see your taking an interest in the SPL though, is that because your a glory hunting Mank who cant get his fix with Man U anymore and have decided to support the Bairns instead?

I'd recommend it mate - much more fun - you even get to rip it out of guys like you. :D

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Used to go, but I cannot afford it anymore. Before and after the 1992-1993 season as well.

I am not the one with the problem though. I take an interest in my team. I get enjoyment out of it, though you obviously don't or you wouldn't be distracted elsewhere.

Now we are getting somewhere. We'll get you supporting your own team soon enough...

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I never understand why some people get enjoyment out of making fun of other people because of the team they support :confused:

Just seems like bitterness to me.