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epsilon 01-08-2022 19:04

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36130069)
Doesn't matter what is or isn't broadcast. My question is over what might happen when its broadcast in SD, on a channel that changes to HD. Can the VM boxes cope with the change in resolution/format?

Performing tests, so should know soon. Also set up tests for end of the days programmes, where it should change from HD to SD.

I'm not trying to state it as fact, just raising the question of whether it might be the cause of the recording issue.

It is more complicated than switching from SD to HD, which would be the situation for the start of scheduled broadcasts, changes in the other direction aren't too important. SDT linkage switches to a completely different service going in and out off-air periods, so should adapt to the parameters of that service. It is more complicated though because recordings, on both Freeview and Virgin use identifiers specific to recording and that could be an weak point with potential problems. Your experiment will be interesting but this switching has been ongoing for years with no reported problems.

Not the same mechanism but, when Virgin removes channels, if a user is already "tuned in" they can sometimes continue to watch after the channel is hidden from the EPG. Info may even show that the channel then has a completely different channel number, which is not in the normal EPG range.

I wonder if the recent problems were not related to normal switching. Did the same problem happen with viewers watching live? If there is a problem, no doubt it will be repeated.

idris65 01-08-2022 19:12

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Yes, loads of soundrops on BBC1 HD West Midlands. Been happening for about five days now. Only on 101 all other channels are fine.

nomadking 01-08-2022 19:46

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36130073)
It is more complicated than switching from SD to HD, which would be the situation for the start of scheduled broadcasts, changes in the other direction aren't too important. SDT linkage switches to a completely different service going in and out off-air periods, so should adapt to the parameters of that service. It is more complicated though because recordings, on both Freeview and Virgin use identifiers specific to recording and that could be an weak point with potential problems. Your experiment will be interesting but this switching has been ongoing for years with no reported problems.

Not the same mechanism but, when Virgin removes channels, if a user is already "tuned in" they can sometimes continue to watch after the channel is hidden from the EPG. Info may even show that the channel then has a completely different channel number, which is not in the normal EPG range.

I wonder if the recent problems were not related to normal switching. Did the same problem happen with viewers watching live? If there is a problem, no doubt it will be repeated.

The original question was about a problem with recordings of BBC3/4.
I did 3 test recordings. They all had problems with the SD part. They skipped ahead to the HD part, which isn't really a problem. One test playback did go completely haywire in the SD part and didn't skip to the HD part. Not conclusive on the original problem, but it does demonstrate my point about potential issues of mixing SD and HD in the same recording.

epsilon 01-08-2022 20:16

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36130078)
The original question was about a problem with recordings of BBC3/4.
I did 3 test recordings. They all had problems with the SD part. They skipped ahead to the HD part, which isn't really a problem. One test playback did go completely haywire in the SD part and didn't skip to the HD part. Not conclusive on the original problem, but it does demonstrate my point about potential issues of mixing SD and HD in the same recording.

My reply was to the following, which seems to be one (or two) of your original questions. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36130035)
What do the freeview channels for BBC3/4 do before 7pm? Does VM gain anything by broadcasting the BBC3/4 slates in SD?


007stuart 02-08-2022 20:41

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36129863)
Oh bloody hell. Gutted

Sending you forts and players for your loss;);)

SonicMaster 03-08-2022 12:56

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Can anyone with Mix TV confirm that they can watch programmes on Discovery and Animal Planet with a 1 hour time delay (using +1) on their package, but not at the original time of broadcast (using HD) because the main feed is not available in SD. An interesting quirk of VM if the Channel Guide PDF is to be believed.

cheekyangus 03-08-2022 14:06

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36130216)
Can anyone with Mix TV confirm that they can watch programmes on Discovery and Animal Planet with a 1 hour time delay (using +1) on their package, but not at the original time of broadcast (using HD) because the main feed is not available in SD. An interesting quirk of VM if the Channel Guide PDF is to be believed.

What's VM only having the HD version of the main channel got to do with it?

What's the channel guide PDF showing?

epsilon 03-08-2022 15:43

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36130216)
Can anyone with Mix TV confirm that they can watch programmes on Discovery and Animal Planet with a 1 hour time delay (using +1) on their package, but not at the original time of broadcast (using HD) because the main feed is not available in SD. An interesting quirk of VM if the Channel Guide PDF is to be believed.

Wait! You believe the PDF Guide? :D

HD versions should also be Mix per the subscription codes.

Media Boy UK 03-08-2022 16:17

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Virgin Media UK will move GB News HD from Virgin Channel 626 to Virgin Channel 604 ON August 11th.

Media Boy UK 03-08-2022 20:10

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Just seen on OFCOM web site that:

BT Sport 1 HD Licensee is: BT Ninety-Five Limited

Eurosport 1 or Eurosport 2 is not listed

http://static.ofcom.org.uk/static/ra...ndsat-main.htm

ScottishSteve 04-08-2022 00:47

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36130226)
Virgin Media UK will move GB News HD from Virgin Channel 626 to Virgin Channel 604 ON August 11th.

Makes you wonder why that would be allowed by ofcom
Especially when the slot used to be BBC News HD, I know slot allocation is different on Virgin to the rules for Sky and Freesat EPGs

Do you think they have acquired the a lot from BBC, though I would have thought they would have shuffled BBC Parliament up one spot.

Itshim 04-08-2022 19:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36130257)
Makes you wonder why that would be allowed by ofcom
Especially when the slot used to be BBC News HD, I know slot allocation is different on Virgin to the rules for Sky and Freesat EPGs

Do you think they have acquired the a lot from BBC, though I would have thought they would have shuffled BBC Parliament up one spot.

Really don't understand why people get so stressed over slot allocation . :D do people really look and give up if it's too far down a list :confused: Me have all the channels I look at in favourites , you may suggest l am missing something , but never at a loss to watch something , so don't care if I did, if you ain't seen it you won't miss it :rolleyes:

ScottishSteve 04-08-2022 19:58

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36130310)
Really don't understand why people get so stressed over slot allocation . :D do people really look and give up if it's too far down a list :confused: Me have all the channels I look at in favourites , you may suggest l am missing something , but never at a loss to watch something , so don't care if I did, if you ain't seen it you won't miss it :rolleyes:

I am certainly not stressed about it, further up is more prominent so I can see their point in wanting to be up there with BBC & Sky, but any channels that I do watch I know the number off by heart and usually have it on my favourites or indeed just speak into the remote.

SonicMaster 05-08-2022 21:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36130223)
Wait! You believe the PDF Guide? :D

HD versions should also be Mix per the subscription codes.

Thanks!

So it's just the Channel Guide PDF being wrong, yet again, lol.

I thought it seemed pretty odd.

vincerooney 06-08-2022 00:48

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36130244)
Just seen on OFCOM web site that:

BT Sport 1 HD Licensee is: BT Ninety-Five Limited

Eurosport 1 or Eurosport 2 is not listed

http://static.ofcom.org.uk/static/ra...ndsat-main.htm

whats this mean exactly MB?

Media Boy UK 06-08-2022 12:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36130458)
whats this mean exactly MB?

BT Sport channels was own by BT Communications

From last Monday when "BT Sport powered by EE" appeared on BT Sport before every ad break BT Sport is own by BT Ninety-Five Limited who is in own 100% by BT Communications.

I think BT will now "sell" 50% of it shares in BT Ninety-Five Limited to Warner Bros Discovery in a coming weeks to get the joint venture started.

vincerooney 08-08-2022 00:17

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36130470)
BT Sport channels was own by BT Communications

From last Monday when "BT Sport powered by EE" appeared on BT Sport before every ad break BT Sport is own by BT Ninety-Five Limited who is in own 100% by BT Communications.

I think BT will now "sell" 50% of it shares in BT Ninety-Five Limited to Warner Bros Discovery in a coming weeks to get the joint venture started.

this makes sense! I didn't know BT were planning on keeping half ownership mind

TimeLord2018 08-08-2022 00:54

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Yes it's 50/50 Joint Venture for now, although the new management and delivery of the Joint Venture will be led by President and Managing Director of WBD Sports Europe

RichardCoulter 08-08-2022 02:32

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
V6 has updated software after I had to do a reboot. Anyone know what this is about?

RobboEdin 08-08-2022 10:36

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Preparation for automatic conversion to TV 360?

cheekyangus 08-08-2022 11:26

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36130547)
V6 has updated software after I had to do a reboot. Anyone know what this is about?

I'm fairly certain they update it regularly anyway, I wouldn't expect anything major or noticeable.
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 36130556)
Preparation for automatic conversion to TV 360?

That would be a PR disaster if they just sprung it on customers. They'd have to give lots of notice to do it properly.

Mad Max 09-08-2022 19:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36130557)
I'm fairly certain they update it regularly anyway, I wouldn't expect anything major or noticeable.


That would be a PR disaster if they just sprung it on customers. They'd have to give lots of notice to do it properly.

It certainly would, and if Virgin and Sky continue with high prices for existing customers, I can see lots of people dumping them due to the cost of living crisis.

djmagnifique 09-08-2022 20:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36130749)
It certainly would, and if Virgin and Sky continue with high prices for existing customers, I can see lots of people dumping them due to the cost of living crisis.

I'm watching less and less stuff on the Virgin TV service. Most of the time it's just on as background noise so will probably get rid of it in a few months time.

Media Boy UK 10-08-2022 20:48

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If you want Virgin Media to launch any of a following channels soon here some bad news:

Virgin has no plans to carry:

CNN International HD,
Sky Sports Main Event UHD,
Classic Hits TV,
That's TV UK,
Boomerang HD

https://twitter.com/MediaBoyUK/statu...52280085069826

ScottishSteve 10-08-2022 20:54

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36130876)
If you want Virgin Media to launch any of a following channels soon here some bad news:

Virgin has no plans to carry:
https://twitter.com/MediaBoyUK/statu...52280085069826

Disclaimer: according to their social media team, canned response.

Most things aren’t announced until they happen anyway so ………….

Media Boy UK 10-08-2022 20:59

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36130877)
Disclaimer: according to their social media team, canned response.

Most things aren’t announced until they happen anyway so ………….

Thanks for info.

spankysmagicpian 10-08-2022 21:43

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Have I missed something? On top Volt package and seems I'm now subscribed to UHD Sky on demand...is this a new thing? Last time I looked, it was an extra I had to pay for.

heavyside 11-08-2022 07:52

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 36130882)
Have I missed something? On top Volt package and seems I'm now subscribed to UHD Sky on demand...is this a new thing? Last time I looked, it was an extra I had to pay for.

If you are on the top tier you should receive Sky UHD on-demand content. I was missing out on this but a kind mod over on Virgin Media Community sorted this for me. The Sky content is UHD but not HDR.

1701-e 11-08-2022 10:38

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36130226)
Virgin Media UK will move GB News HD from Virgin Channel 626 to Virgin Channel 604 ON August 11th.

Didn't happen. Maybe the payment didn't go through.

Media Boy UK 11-08-2022 13:09

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36130226)
Virgin Media UK will move GB News HD from Virgin Channel 626 to Virgin Channel 604 ON August 11th.

Now set to happen on August 24th.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/gb-news-mo...channel-number

Rob King 12-08-2022 14:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36130899)
If you are on the top tier you should receive Sky UHD on-demand content. I was missing out on this but a kind mod over on Virgin Media Community sorted this for me. The Sky content is UHD but not HDR.

I rang virgin media the other week as I pay £100 a month and wanted Netflix they gave me sky movies uhd as an extra im out of contract in October so I need a better deal then

Media Boy UK 17-08-2022 17:31

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Media Boy UK Sources has today given me some hot info on Warner Bros. Discovery. But I have make up my mind after thinking about it long and hard to sit on it until I get more info.

Itshim 17-08-2022 17:34

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36131529)
Media Boy UK Sources has today given me some hot info on Warner Bros. Discovery. But I have make up my mind after thinking about it long and hard to sit on it until I get more info.

Gibberish :confused: or are you on about hbo / discovery + merging . ?

Mr K 17-08-2022 19:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36131535)
Usual gibberish from you MB

Either post it or don’t, enough of this trivial nonsense.

It’s either embargoed or not.

As you well know, MB is putting his life on the line by leaking such info ;)

vincerooney 17-08-2022 23:46

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The disrespect shown to MB is just baffling. Like why type up posts like the above? What does it accomplish?

I've been following MB since he joined here in 2006 and his posts made me sign up in 2007. Thats 16 years of posts! He's a top guy in my eyes and I enjoy these threads each year as we discuss the never ending possibility of Sky Atlantic, or the stunning arrival of BT Sport at the last minute or all the discussions on HD versions of channels. Its been a bloody good laugh if you ask me as well as interesting!

So thanks Media Boy and if you can't share a source just yet thats fine. Better to keep good sources happy in the long run.

If you haven't got anything good to say either why not just put the smart phone down and let the rest of us enjoy hopefully another 16 years! God knows where we'll be then!

Maggy 18-08-2022 08:44

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I suggest everyone remembers their manners.No one HAS to read MB's post/thread and therefore you don't have to comment needlessly about what he posts.

Paul 18-08-2022 13:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36131578)
I suggest everyone remembers their manners.No one HAS to read MB's post/thread and therefore you don't have to comment needlessly about what he posts.

This.
Several posts have been removed, and several users banned from the topic for a day.
If you find reading MB's posts frustrating, then go read something else instead, no need to be ignorant.

Media Boy UK 18-08-2022 14:33

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Warner Bros. Discovery has today sold it share in GB News.

https://deadline.com/2022/08/warner-...ws-1235095185/

---------- Post added at 14:33 ---------- Previous post was at 14:24 ----------

Will WBD give Virgin Media a rights to carry CNN again?

Itshim 18-08-2022 17:28

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36131640)
This.
Several posts have been removed, and several users banned from the topic for a day.
If you find reading MB's posts frustrating, then go read something else instead, no need to be ignorant.

Try to ignore but really :(

Paul 18-08-2022 19:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36131687)
Try to ignore but really :(

You could always use your ignore list.

Mr K 18-08-2022 20:18

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36131655)
Will WBD give Virgin Media a rights to carry CNN again?

Well let's hope so. Mick is a big fan of CNN ;)

epsilon 18-08-2022 22:21

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36131655)
Warner Bros. Discovery has today sold it share in GB News.

https://deadline.com/2022/08/warner-...ws-1235095185/

I'm just surprised they didn't make their escape sooner.

Quote:

Will WBD give Virgin Media a rights to carry CNN again?
It's unrelated to the GB News divestment, so probably not. There's always the CNN channel on Rakuten which should be available on many Smart TVs and streaming devices.

---------- Post added at 22:21 ---------- Previous post was at 22:04 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36131576)
...let the rest of us enjoy hopefully another 16 years! God knows where we'll be then!

That seems like a cue for more of OLD BOY's visions of a post 2035 streaming utopia / dystopia (depending on your point of view).

Media Boy UK 18-08-2022 22:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36131720)
I'm just surprised they didn't make their escape sooner.

It's unrelated to the GB News divestment, so probably not. There's always the CNN channel on Rakuten which should be available on many Smart TVs and streaming devices.

I was not talking about next week but later on when both Warner Media and Discovery old deals are up.

I see that Channel 4 HD is going UK Wide from August 31st on Sky. But still to see any info on them launching on Virgin Media.*

*Channel 4 HD only have a London area HD Channel right now on Virgin Channel 141.

epsilon 18-08-2022 23:00

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36131727)
I was not talking about next week but later on when both Warner Media and Discovery old deals are up.

I know but I think there will have been reasons for the CNN removal which, probably, won't be obvious to the general public. The planned streaming service collapsed and that probably increases the chances of it returning eventually.

Quote:

I see that Channel 4 HD is going UK Wide from August 31st on Sky. But still to see any info on them launching on Virgin Media.*

*Channel 4 HD only have a London area HD Channel right now on Virgin Channel 141.
There are actually several regional versions of 4HD on Virgin and have been since the London area changes. As C4 hasn't previously played out the regional HD advertising macro versions, other than London, Virgin has fed the London version into all of its regional 4HD versions. All they need to do is switch the feeds, which should be no more complicated than switching the feeds for various channels after the incident at Red Bee. If Virgin has access to all of the new regional playout feeds, there is no reason why it shouldn't change at the same time as Sky. Unlike Sky, we won't be seeing "tests" as the regional "services" were set up a long time ago. In theory, the feeds could also be switched to the existing BBC B multiplex on Freeview. It might be easier though for Freeview to delay until the changes to fully regionalise BBC B have been completed. That way the correct regions of BBC 1 HD, ITV HD and 4HD could all arrive at the same time. The obvious change on Virgin would be the move to the 104 EPG slot in all regions.

vincerooney 19-08-2022 01:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36131709)
Well let's hope so. Mick is a big fan of CNN ;)

I quite like NBC News its replacement even though its the internet version of its news channel and not its main news channel i believe?

Why is CNN free on Rakuten but not anywhere else?

Still want Fox News as its hilarious. The clips on the john oliver show are hilarious

epsilon 19-08-2022 08:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36131735)
Why is CNN free on Rakuten but not anywhere else?


It's also on Sky.

As an update to the above post regarding 4HD. An additional service will be required for Wales, I noticed that SID 10254 is for Virgin networks in Channel 4's South (including Wales) advertising macro region. In order to use EPG channel 108 in Wales, an extra Service ID would be needed. It could be useful, for anyone interested in tracking such information, to watch for any changes on digitalbitrate. Look for a renumbered or additional version of Channel 4HD popping up on the Welsh version of transport stream 102. [https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...e=209&lang=en]

1andrew1 19-08-2022 11:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36131735)
IWhy is CNN free on Rakuten but not anywhere else?

I assume Rakuten and CNN signed a deal. They're both private companies so don't have to disclose what it was.

Itshim 19-08-2022 17:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36131701)
You could always use your ignore list.

Sure but once a year or so a little nugget comes , convinced that most of his"news" /" I ,ve been told "is drawn from various web news sites . But hay ho.:D

---------- Post added at 17:40 ---------- Previous post was at 17:38 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36131576)
The disrespect shown to MB is just baffling. Like why type up posts like the above? What does it accomplish?

I've been following MB since he joined here in 2006 and his posts made me sign up in 2007. Thats 16 years of posts! He's a top guy in my eyes and I enjoy these threads each year as we discuss the never ending possibility of Sky Atlantic, or the stunning arrival of BT Sport at the last minute or all the discussions on HD versions of channels. Its been a bloody good laugh if you ask me as well as interesting!

So thanks Media Boy and if you can't share a source just yet thats fine. Better to keep good sources happy in the long run.

If you haven't got anything good to say either why not just put the smart phone down and let the rest of us enjoy hopefully another 16 years! God knows where we'll be then!

My father used to say if you can't say something kind ,run away you know you can't keep your mouth shut:p:

---------- Post added at 17:43 ---------- Previous post was at 17:40 ----------

[QUOTE=Media Boy UK;36131727]I was not talking about next week but later on when both Warner Media and Discovery old deals are up.

I see that Channel 4 HD is going UK Wide from August 31st on Sky. But still to see any info on them launching on Virgin Media.*

*Channel 4 HD only have a London area HD Channel right now on Virgin Channel 141.[/QUO:

---------- Post added at 17:46 ---------- Previous post was at 17:43 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36131727)
I was not talking about next week but later on when both Warner Media and Discovery old deals are up.

I see that Channel 4 HD is going UK Wide from August 31st on Sky. But still to see any info on them launching on Virgin Media.*

*Channel 4 HD only have a London area HD Channel right now on Virgin Channel 141.

Have it in Cardiff :erm: channel 141

Aguero9320 19-08-2022 21:46

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I’m surprised at the recent disrespect of MB. He was the reason I joined Cable Forum in 2013. I also follow him on Twitter for this reason, too.

He works hard for this forum, giving us ultra-reliable information. Thanks for everything, MB. Here’s to many more years.

Frazz 19-08-2022 22:38

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Has anyone received an end of contract notice from virgin? Seems they have to let you know before your contract ends

https://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/guid...ble%20to%20you.

epsilon 19-08-2022 23:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36131777)
Have it in Cardiff :erm: channel 141

That's what he is saying. In Cardiff you will have the London Advertising Macro Region. When Channel 4 eventually makes the correct advertising region available in HD, it should move to 108 and replace the SD version.

---------- Post added at 23:43 ---------- Previous post was at 23:30 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36131777)
Sure but once a year or so a little nugget comes , convinced that most of his"news" /" I ,ve been told "is drawn from various web news sites . But hay ho.:D

The funny thing is, I've been noticing that some of the so called "news" sites have been breaking news shortly after it has been disclosed on forum sites. I'm not saying they lift their information from online speculation but occasionally it seems to prompt them into researching something they would otherwise have missed.

vincerooney 20-08-2022 01:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36131794)
I’m surprised at the recent disrespect of MB. He was the reason I joined Cable Forum in 2013. I also follow him on Twitter for this reason, too.

He works hard for this forum, giving us ultra-reliable information. Thanks for everything, MB. Here’s to many more years.

Media boy is a top guy! I respect the work he does too.

I'm intrigued about the next big sports rights to come up. Does anyone have a website with key dates? I know the EPL got auto renewed last season for the same amount due to covid?

Would be intrigued to see foreign football rights/F1 etc

RichardCoulter 20-08-2022 02:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazz (Post 36131799)
Has anyone received an end of contract notice from virgin? Seems they have to let you know before your contract ends

https://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/guid...ble%20to%20you.

Get mine by email. They word it as if they are doing you a big favour, when in reality their regulator required them to do it in an attempt to prompt customers to stop Virgin ripping them off.

ozsat 20-08-2022 05:44

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At least you got one. Sky seem to be opposed to it and have not been doing it - they believe they are exempt.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...fications.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36131808)
Get mine by email. They word it as if they are doing you a big favour, when in reality their regulator required them to do it in an attempt to prompt customers to stop Virgin ripping them off.


RichardCoulter 20-08-2022 11:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36131809)
At least you got one. Sky seem to be opposed to it and have not been doing it - they believe they are exempt.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...fications.html

Very interesting. I imagine that Virgin don't like sending them out either, so will be watching to see if the outcome of any legal review could also apply to them.

Sky must think that this requirement will seriously damage their profits if they're prepared to take on their own regulator over the matter!

Media Boy UK 20-08-2022 13:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36131807)
Media boy is a top guy! I respect the work he does too.

I'm intrigued about the next big sports rights to come up. Does anyone have a website with key dates? I know the EPL got auto renewed last season for the same amount due to covid?

Would be intrigued to see foreign football rights/F1 etc

-F1 rights end in 2024.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ll-formula-one

-SPFL end in 2024/2025 - SPFL are said to be in ongoing with Sky over new deal over new rights but if Sky don't want all rights
Premier Sports (Soon to be took over by Viaplay), BT Discovery and BBC Scotland are said to be waiting in a winds to take up to 20 games per season if Sky do not wants all 60 games.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...-bids-27779537

-Foreign Football rights
https://www.live-footballontv.com/fo...rights-uk.html

Mythica 20-08-2022 15:27

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36131794)
I’m surprised at the recent disrespect of MB. He was the reason I joined Cable Forum in 2013. I also follow him on Twitter for this reason, too.

He works hard for this forum, giving us ultra-reliable information. Thanks for everything, MB. Here’s to many more years.

Without wanting to derail the thread, he didn't give any information. Said he had some and wouldn't post it yet. You've then got to question of what the point was in the post in the first place.

Media Boy UK 20-08-2022 15:35

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
BT Sport will broadcast WWE Clash At The Castle live from Wales on BT Sport 2 HD rather than BT Sport Box Office on September 3rd.

Gavin-D 20-08-2022 15:44

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazz (Post 36131799)
Has anyone received an end of contract notice from virgin? Seems they have to let you know before your contract ends

https://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/guid...ble%20to%20you.


Yes. Got mine by email around 2 to 3 weeks before the 18-months was up

Rillington 20-08-2022 16:12

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36131739)
It's also on Sky.

I think it's also on Freesat.

From what I can gather, the only platform that has not seen CNN return to it after it was removed a year ago is Virgin Media.

cheekyangus 20-08-2022 17:04

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 36131858)
I think it's also on Freesat.

From what I can gather, the only platform that has not seen CNN return to it after it was removed a year ago is Virgin Media.

It's not on Freesat. You can manually tune it in, but they aren't paying to be on the EPG.

Media Boy UK 20-08-2022 17:44

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Warner Bros. Discovery has reveal that Peter Crouch: Save Our Beautiful Game is set to be shown on Quest HD in September.

Peter Crouch: Save Our Beautiful Game was first shown on Discovery+

Itshim 20-08-2022 18:05

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36131801)
That's what he is saying. In Cardiff you will have the London Advertising Macro Region. When Channel 4 eventually makes the correct advertising region available in HD, it should move to 108 and replace the SD version.[COLOR="Silver"].

Never noticed the adverts !!!! Only record and fast forward .

---------- Post added at 18:05 ---------- Previous post was at 18:03 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 36131847)
Without wanting to derail the thread, he didn't give any information. Said he had some and wouldn't post it yet. You've then got to question of what the point was in the post in the first place.

Hear hear :shocked::confused::erm:

Media Boy UK 20-08-2022 21:54

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36131529)
Media Boy UK Sources has today given me some hot info on Warner Bros. Discovery. But I have make up my mind after thinking about it long and hard to sit on it until I get more info.

UPDATE: My Sources did reveal to me on August 17th that Discovery are in very hot water apparently something to do with the Warner Bros. Discovery merger, no other info was given.

I feel it will be HBO or DC.

vincerooney 21-08-2022 00:34

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36131841)
-F1 rights end in 2024.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ll-formula-one

-SPFL end in 2024/2025 - SPFL are said to be in ongoing with Sky over new deal over new rights but if Sky don't want all rights
Premier Sports (Soon to be took over by Viaplay), BT Discovery and BBC Scotland are said to be waiting in a winds to take up to 20 games per season if Sky do not wants all 60 games.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...-bids-27779537

-Foreign Football rights
https://www.live-footballontv.com/fo...rights-uk.html

Excellent link this! Thanks MB!

Itshim 21-08-2022 14:12

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36131530)
Gibberish :confused: or are you on about hbo / discovery + merging . ?

As I said

---------- Post added at 14:12 ---------- Previous post was at 14:12 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36131887)
UPDATE: My Sources did reveal to me on August 17th that Discovery are in very hot water apparently something to do with the Warner Bros. Discovery merger, no other info was given.

I feel it will be HBO or DC.


epsilon 21-08-2022 15:06

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36131864)
Never noticed the adverts !!!! Only record and fast forward .

Most people will do that even those who watch live and sit through the adverts would be hard pressed to notice if they had the correct regional feed or the London feed. I've already said elsewhere that Virgin could have, in theory, already switched to the correct regional playouts for the 141 HD service. Who'd even notice the change?

Rillington 21-08-2022 16:37

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36131860)
It's not on Freesat. You can manually tune it in, but they aren't paying to be on the EPG.

Sure, but the point is is that Freesat users can access CNN should they wish to do so by manually tuning it in.

cheekyangus 21-08-2022 21:26

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 36131933)
Sure, but the point is is that Freesat users can access CNN should they wish to do so by manually tuning it in.

Can, but likely won't. Most Freesat users will just use the Guide, those with non-Freesat generic FTA satellite boxes, on the other hand, are more likely the sorts to have the inclination and/or knowledge to even look.

I've manually tuned in CNN, because I could, I don't actually watch it though, but I'm definitely not the average Freesat user.

Media Boy UK 24-08-2022 00:03

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Virgin Media has moved GB News from Virgin UK Channel 626 to Virgin UK Channel 604.

SonicMaster 30-08-2022 15:03

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Now that 5USA HD and 5STAR HD are both available on Sky Glass and BT TV, I think that VM should get them on Virgin TV next time they renew their carriage agreement with Paramount. VM already has 5ACTION HD so it will be useful to get these other Channel 5 networks in HD.

Media Boy UK 08-09-2022 16:21

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Geektown is reporting that ‘Grey’s Anatomy’, ‘Station 19’ & ‘9-1-1’ is set to move from Sky To Disney+ In The UK.

https://www.geektown.co.uk/2022/09/0...ney-in-the-uk/

djmagnifique 08-09-2022 19:52

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36133720)
Geektown is reporting that ‘Grey’s Anatomy’, ‘Station 19’ & ‘9-1-1’ is set to move from Sky To Disney+ In The UK.

https://www.geektown.co.uk/2022/09/0...ney-in-the-uk/


They are already available on Disney+.

RichardCoulter 09-09-2022 01:23

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Channel 100 is showing the Virgin Media tribute to our late Queen.

SonicMaster 12-09-2022 17:42

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by djmagnifique (Post 36133777)
They are already available on Disney+.

Old seasons are, but this article is about the premiere of new seasons moving to Disney+.

A major loss for Sky Witness.

cheekyangus 12-09-2022 17:56

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36134040)
Old seasons are, but this article is about the premiere of new seasons moving to Disney+.

A major loss for Sky Witness.

I do wonder if with companies reclaiming their own shows for their own streamers they will all be ruthless with keeping them exclusive, whether there will remain secondary rights with the opportunity to broadcast a year or so after they premiere.

TimeLord2018 12-09-2022 17:59

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Disney aren't selling 2nd run rights to outside buyers in the US or any other market
https://variety.com/2022/tv/features...ng-1235272593/

Paramount seem open to it , 2nd run rights often don't rate well though

Tricky Trevor 13-09-2022 09:40

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
It would be good if Virgin were to show the Queens funeral in UHD

BenMcr 13-09-2022 10:37

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 36134067)
It would be good if Virgin were to show the Queens funeral in UHD

That would be dependent on anyone having such a feed in the first place. Not aware that any broadcaster has currently said they'd be arranging that.

If the BBC do, then it would likely be accessible through iPlayer anyway.

Media Boy UK 13-09-2022 15:24

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
ITV has confirmed that ITV2, ITV3, ITV4, ITVBe and CITV is to drop all programming from 6am to midnight and simulcast with ITV on Monday.

https://www.tvzoneuk.com/post/queensfuneral-itvplansann

TimeLord2018 13-09-2022 16:33

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36134080)
ITV has confirmed that ITV2, ITV3, ITV4, ITVBe and CITV is to drop all programming from 6am to midnight and simulcast with ITV on Monday.

https://www.tvzoneuk.com/post/queensfuneral-itvplansann

The BBC have confirmed Schedule changes from 15th to 23rd September
[https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/

Media Boy UK 16-09-2022 22:24

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Warner Bros Discovery and Comcast can start talking about merger from April 2024:

Quote:

Given WBD's daunting challenges, it has become accepted wisdom at the highest levels of the industry that another deal waits in the wings for Warner Bros. Discovery. For reasons related to the complicated structure of that merger, no negotiations can happen until April 2024. But at that point, many industry observers believe that Comcast’s Brian Roberts will make a long-awaited move, looking to combine NBCUniversal and Warner Bros. Discovery.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...ch-1235221804/

Legendkiller2k 17-09-2022 02:02

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36134354)
Warner Bros Discovery and Comcast can start talking about merger from April 2024:



https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...ch-1235221804/

RIP Comcast, Discovery are slowlt destroying HBOMAX.

Media Boy UK 17-09-2022 18:25

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36134388)
RIP Comcast, Discovery are slowlt destroying HBOMAX.

Rumours say COMCAST may make a bid to merge with WBD after March 2024.

But a UK Competition and Markets Authority may not pass it.

Comcast/WBD would own a following Movies channels:
Sky Cinema Premiere
Sky Cinema Select
Sky Cinema Hits
Sky Cinema Greats
Sky Cinema Animation
Sky Cinema Family
Sky Cinema Action
Sky Cinema Comedy
Sky Cinema Thriller
Sky Cinema Drama
Sky Cinema Sci Fi & Horror

TCM Movies
Movies 24
Movies 24 +


Comcast/WBD would own a following Sports channels:
Sky Sports Premier League
Sky Sports Football
Sky Sports Cricket
Sky Sports F1
Sky Sports Action
Sky Sports News

Eurosport 1 (Part own with BT Group)
Eurosport 2 (Part own with BT Group)
BT Sport 1 (Part own with BT Group)
BT Sport 2 (Part own with BT Group)
BT Sport 3 (Part own with BT Group)
BT Sport 4 (Part own with BT Group)
BT Sport UHD (Part own with BT Group)

Sky Sports Racing (Part own with Arena Racing Company)
Sky Sports Mix
GINX Esports TV (Part own with ITV)
Sky Sports Main Event UHD

BT Sports Box Office
Sky Sports Box Office

Comcast/WBD would own a following OTHER channels:
Sky Showcase
Sky Witness
Sky Atlantic
Comedy Central (Part own with Paramount British Pictures)
Sky Max
Sky Comedy
Sky Documentaries
Sky Crime
Sky History (Part own with A&E Networks UK)
Sky Nature

Discovery Channel
Comedy Central Extra (Part own with Paramount British Pictures)
Sky Arts

TLC
Food Network
Really
Quest

Sky Replay
Quest Red
E!
Sky Sci-Fi

Investigation Discovery
Crime+Investigation (Part own with A&E Networks UK)
HGTV
Pick
Challenge

Discovery Turbo
Animal Planet

Sky History2 (Part own with A&E Networks UK)
Blaze (Part own with A&E Networks UK)

Discovery Science
Discovery History

Sky News
CNBC

CNN International
NBC News Now
Cartoon Network
Boomerang

Nickelodeon (Part own with Paramount)
Nicktoons (Part own with Paramount)
Nick Jr. (Part own with Paramount)

Cartoonito
Nick Jr. Too (Part own with Paramount)
Sky News Arabia (Part own with Abu Dhabi Media Investment Corporation)


Own by WBD right now
Own by Comcast right now.

RichardCoulter 17-09-2022 18:30

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36134080)
ITV has confirmed that ITV2, ITV3, ITV4, ITVBe and CITV is to drop all programming from 6am to midnight and simulcast with ITV on Monday.

https://www.tvzoneuk.com/post/queensfuneral-itvplansann

Sky are to temporarily close some of their channels on Monday.

These include Sky Comedy, Nature, and various Cinema/Sports channels.

Those that remain open will simulcast Sky News who will be covering the Queens funeral.

TimeLord2018 17-09-2022 18:30

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
I doubt the Sports channels and CNN would be included in any sale if it ever happened , look what happened with 21st Century Fox sale to Disney , the Fox Sports channels , FOX News and FOX US channel weren't included in the sale , Disney also had sell their stake in A+E Networks in Europe.

jfman 17-09-2022 20:43

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36134420)
Rumours say COMCAST may make a bid to merge with WBD after March 2024.

Is this quoted anywhere or just what you are hearing? Would be interesting to read more.

Media Boy UK 17-09-2022 21:46

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36134428)
Is this quoted anywhere or just what you are hearing? Would be interesting to read more.

I was only reporting what The Hollywood Reporter is saying:

Quote:

Given the company’s daunting challenges, it has become accepted wisdom at the highest levels of the industry that another deal waits in the wings for Warner Bros. Discovery. For reasons related to the complicated structure of that merger, no negotiations can happen until April 2024. But at that point, many industry observers believe that Comcast’s Brian Roberts will make a long-awaited move, looking to combine NBCUniversal and Warner Bros. Discovery.
Full story at: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...ch-1235221804/

I first saw story being reported on Twitter on Friday.

jfman 17-09-2022 23:42

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Cheers and thanks for the link.

Media Boy UK 18-09-2022 18:22

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36134083)
The BBC have confirmed Schedule changes from 15th to 23rd September
[https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/

here is a full list of channels broadcasting a Queen Funeral or set to close for some time tomorrow:

Info as seen on Virgin Media (times very)

If any Channels listed have a +1 Channel a same will be shown but a hour later:

BBC 1*
BBC 2*
ITV
STV
UTV
S4C
Sky Showcase*
Sky Witness**
ITV2***

ITV3***
ITV4***
ITVBe***
Sky Max**
Sky Comedy^
Sky Crime**
Sky Sci-Fi**
Sky Arts**
Pick**
Challenge**
E!^
Sky Replay^
Sky History**
Sky History 2**
Sky Documentaries**
Sky Nature^
Sky Cinema Premiere**
Sky Cinema Select**
Sky Cinema Hits**
Sky Cinema Greats**
Sky Cinema Family^

Sky Cinema Action & Adventure^
Sky Cinema Comedy^
Sky Cinema Crime & Thriller^
Sky Cinema Drama & Romance^
Sky Cinema Sci-Fi & Horror^
Sky Cinema Animation^
Movies 24^
Movies 24 +**
Sky Sports Main Event**
Sky Sports Premier League**
Sky Sports Football^
Sky Sports Cricket**

Sky Sports Golf^
Sky Sports F1**
Sky Sports Action^
Sky Sports Arena**
Sky Sports News**
Sky Sports Mix^
Sky Sports Racing^
BBC NEWS
Sky News
GB News
BBC Parliament*
Bloomberg Television
NBC News NOW
Talk TV HD
CITV***
QVC^^
QVC Beauty^^
QVC Style^^
QVC Extra^^
Ideal World^^

Create & Craft^^
Gems TV^^
TJC^^
RTÉ One (Northern Ireland only)
BBC Red Button 1 (With no Commentary)

*As BBC News
**As Sky News
***As ITV
^Channel off air but will tell you to turn into Sky News.
^^Channels has confirmed that they will be offair for some time on Monday.

epsilon 22-09-2022 21:25

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Hidden "Channel Update" slates have been noted indicating that Channel 4 HD has moved to channel 104 or to channel 108 (Wales). So the actual move to 104/108 should be taking place shortly. (104 is already used in London).

Media Boy UK 22-09-2022 22:31

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36134733)
Hidden "Channel Update" slates have been noted indicating that Channel 4 HD has moved to channel 104 or to channel 108 (Wales). So the actual move to 104/108 should be taking place shortly. (104 is already used in London).

Thanks for info.

epsilon 23-09-2022 09:02

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36134738)
Thanks for info.

27th Sept launch per the overlay now showing on channel 141.

cheekyangus 23-09-2022 09:53

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36134747)
27th Sept launch per the overlay now showing on channel 141.

Thanks for heads-up epsilon. :)

RichardCoulter 24-09-2022 02:19

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
There was a rumour about two years ago that E! was to eventually close or go streaming only, I think it was the latter.

As Sky have just changed their EPG so that Challenge & Pick are in better positions than E!, I think the writing could be on the wall for this channel.

Media Boy UK 24-09-2022 17:20

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
I was playing about with my TiVo box last night to see what to watch.

I found that both Movies 24 & Movies 24+ are now broadcasting movies with subtitles. And "Sky Cinema top 10" is also being shown.

So is the following set to happen:

Movies 24 > Sky Cinema True Story
Movies 24+ > Sky Cinema Mix

cheekyangus 24-09-2022 17:27

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Are you meaning foreign language films, or literally that subtitles are now available?

Them showing Sky Cinema top 10 isn't new, they have for a while.

Media Boy UK 24-09-2022 17:30

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36134869)
Are you meaning foreign language films, or literally that subtitles are now available?

Them showing Sky Cinema top 10 isn't new, they have for a while.

subtitles are now available.

Last night was a first time I turn into Movies 24 in 21months.

My late dad was a fan of a channel.

cheekyangus 24-09-2022 17:32

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36134870)
subtitles are now available.

Last night was a first time I turn into Movies 24 in 21months.

My late dad was a fan of a channel.

Thanks for clarifying. Good to know.

Legendkiller2k 24-09-2022 18:15

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36134868)
I was playing about with my TiVo box last night to see what to watch.

I found that both Movies 24 & Movies 24+ are now broadcasting movies with subtitles. And "Sky Cinema top 10" is also being shown.

So is the following set to happen:

Movies 24 > Sky Cinema True Story
Movies 24+ > Sky Cinema Mix

No.


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