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Amazon now officially owns MGM
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...on-1235113602/

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but appears not likely for prime to have the rights to streaming bond since they only technically own half the rights and united artists own the rest

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Netflix tests charges for sharing passwords between households

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-charges-trial

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I suspect the reason they’ve not done this before is that they’ve taken their time devising a way of determining who’s using their multiple logins legitimately and who’s sharing them round their mates. If they’re ready for public trials in small markets it’ll go global soon enough.

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How do they know it’s not the account holder using his Netflix at a friends house ?

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If I knew how to work that out I’d have patented it and licenced it to them ;)

I suspect they’ve come up with something that combines a lot of different data points like geolocation, IP address, ISP, long-term user habits and so on. They will probably also tighten their T&Cs and make it harder to use more individual devices than the total number of logins allowed on the account. Apple has something like that for authorising/deauthorising DRM’d iTunes content.

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Because two or three people using it at the same time, from different IP addresses?

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In an ideal world they’d all be Bluetooth enabled to the extent that a primary device (a phone) has to be present at all locations that aren’t the primary IP (which would be the “home”).

Perhaps a “reasonable use” for connections that don’t meet either criteria would fit the bill. Problematic, because the only reason anyone thinks Netflix is good value is the fact it’s shared.

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That’s pretty easy to do legit though isn’t it , parents watching at home , one child at friends one using on a commute.

The Premim tier includes 4 screens at a time.

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That’s what we do - I pay for it, son and daughter in their respective residences have separate profiles; hopefully this will still be allowed.

Depends how they define "household"…

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that alone is not enough to assume it is more than one household but I guess they would be able to see easily who leases the particular IP. You could have a house full on different IP addresses if everyone is using mobile data

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The OED defines 'household' as 'a house and its occupants'. It sounds to me like a lot of lawyers are going to make a lot of money before this is resolved.

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Noticed it now says this on the UK site not sure if it’s always said it or not.

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I'd seriously doubt that your set up would be allowed - I'm sure you realise you are not a household. You could possibly argue if it was a family but it isn't.

The obvious way to prevent it is to only allow 1 device to be logged in at a time.

In the end, people who have been sharing logins/passwords have got away with bending the rules for a long time - you cannot really moan if the loophole is being closed.

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No moans given or intended - I’m using what’s allowed at this time.

If it changes, I will review my options…

If you look at Netflix T&C’s, I can’t see anything about "household".

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/412...lar-categories https://help.netflix.com/en/node/24926 For Premium it states 4, but nothing about "household".

In the Netflix Terms of Service, there is this https://help.netflix.com/en/legal/termsofuse

Then there is this https://help.netflix.com/en/node/124925

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If the Loophole closes I use I will just use usenet like I do with everything else. TBH everything new on NF I really want to watch is downloaded by Sonarr and Radarr anyway or I would just forget to watch it

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I think they price illegal downloading into their plans when they make these sorts of decisions. The methods are out there but ultimately I think too few people are sufficiently motivated. The vast majority of people will either stump up the cash or simply not bother. And in most cases I think it’ll be the cash - Netflix has been extremely good at commissioning talked-about shows across multiple genres, like Bridgerton, The Crown, Stranger Things and Tiger King. I hear it talked about by BBC radio presenters most days of the week. That sort of think makes it a must-have.

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I'll post this here as it does involved UKTVplay too. - credit to cordbusters

“W” will launch on March 28, and will be available on Freeview Channel 25, and Freesat Channel 156.


“W” will also be available to stream directly via UKTV’s streaming app, UKTV Play, which is available on most streaming devices sold in the UK (including Roku and Amazon Fire TV), as well as on Freeview Play devices such as the Manhattan T3-R.

The free-to-air versions of “W” will only be available in SD, unfortunately, with the HD versions of “W” remaining as premium channels on Sky and Virgin Media TV.

There’s good news on the accessibility front, however, with 100% of “W’s” programming via Freeview and UKTV Play including subtitles/close captioning.

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Sky offers 3 months free Apple TV+

Sky is offering its Sky Q and Sky Glass customers three months free access to the Apple TV+ streaming service.

In a message to customers, Sky said: “For Sky VIPs, the VIP treatment never stops. That’s why you can now get a three-month free trial of Apple TV+ […] That’s Sky TV and huge Apple Originals side by side, all in one place, for Sky Q and Sky Glass customers. After that, it’s just £4.99/€4.99 a month unless cancelled.”

https://advanced-television.com/2022...free-apple-tv/

Virgin Media O2 top bundles now include Netflix

Virgin Media O2 has refreshed its top packages, the Ultimate Volt bundle and the Biggest TV bundle, to include a Netflix Standard Plan.

https://advanced-television.com/2022...clude-netflix/

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Just noticed Now TV seems to have changed it’s terms and conditions upon logging into my account , it now also specifically mentions a household.

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I'm on Ultimate Volt but Netflix still requires signing up to a paid plan so presumably a new subscriber deal?

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Yes, I tried live chat and was told for new subscribers only, same as Sky UHD when that came along last year.

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After a long discussion this morning with Virgin Media, it has been confirmed to me that Virgin Media head office has stated that this offer is available to existing customers on eligible plans. Unfortunately at this time the Virgin Media agents do not have the tools on their systems to enable this. It is being worked on today by their tech guys. I am booked in for a call back later this afternoon when hopefully the systems have been updated.It will require a new 18 month contract term from what I understand.

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News from YouTube. Apologies if it's been posted before.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/23/2...shows-with-ads

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I had a lengthy session on chat with them last night. The offshore call centres don't seem to have access to this but she transferred me to the O2 Volt team who set it up for me. Nothing was mentioned about a new contract. It seems that it depends who you speak to. I spoke with retentions this morning and we spoke about this. They only found out about its existence yesterday.

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Starzplay currently has an offer of £1:99 a month for 6 months
I got this offer from one of the few ads that gets through my ad blocker on Facebook but I believe if you just go to their homepage you can get it.

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Great find mate, if you purchase this on a laptop does it give you access to your TV too because it's still showing as £4.99 per month if you try and upgrade via your Virgin TV, as the Starzplay isn't showing as an app but shows as a box set addition. Thx

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It is £1.99pm for 6 months on Amazon Prime as well as the website. The Amazon offer shows up in the Amazon app on the V6.

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I noticed StarzPlay is showing as £5.99pm on the channels on the Apple TV app, The £1.99pm offer isn't available on that either.

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It will work on the Starzplay app on many devices but the Starzplay add on via virgin is totally separate and is not included in the offer.

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I think there was an offer for VM subscribers which ended recently - but I'm not 100% sure as I didn't take it.

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I believe this gives you access to Starzplays various standalone apps and its website,
for example I can view its content either directly on their website or via their apps on my Fire tv stick and my Roku (plus my Android phone and tablet).
If you sub via Amazon Channels you can only view via Amazon Prime Video, I think the same may apply for subbing via Apple and their conduits.
I do not have any type of tv sub from VM anymore so I'm unable to test or confirm how this sub works on their system.

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Yeah, I saw that, but that means paying for prime too.

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Prime is pretty good value, though. It’s half the price of Netflix and offers both original and archive streaming, free and subscription streaming channels and free delivery on Prime products.

It’s better value than Disney + - but hey, horses for courses… ;)

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I live in Belfast and daughter in Edinburgh and have Prime as Household so making it £40 p.a. each.... Better value

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Prime is only good value for me when they have the Autumn Rugby Internationals and the 2 Premiership Football rounds.

Rarely buy off Amazon so the free delivery benefit is of no use.

However I would agree it is better value than Netflix - just goes to show Streaming isn't the future.

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Prime ain't as good value as you think if you look under the hood especially as prices will be going up to £10.99p/m soon.

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Prime is good value if you order lots of stuff from Amazon. But the TV service is to Netflix what Jeff Bezos’ massive flying phallus is to SpaceX. It’s just not a serious competitor. If we ever found our Amazon purchases reducing by much, we would cancel our Prime sub in a flash.

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Don’t understand how that follows…..:erm:

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You also get unlimited photo storage and some free music streaming so for me Amazon Prime is pretty awesome value.

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And some Kindle books too

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It’s good value for us, but that’s based entirely on free next-day Prime delivery. The TV service is an add-on that’s occasionally useful.

E.g, me just now, spotting a yellow flash on my echo: “Alexa, where’s my stuff?”
Alexa: “Two packages where delivered…”
Me thinking right that’s fine, they’re the ones I collected at the door
Alexa: “…another package will arrive today between 5pm and 7pm…”
Me thinking I’ve no idea what that is
Alexa: “…two more packages will arrive tomorrow…”
Me thinking, ah, I actually ordered those so I know what they are
Alexa: “…two more packages are on the way.”
Me thinking I haven’t a clue.

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I use youtube premium for music at £1.20p/m use a vpn set to India to subscribe :)

It suits me better as i have the Google home.

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You wouldnt

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It is to you but may not very well be to others , the whole streaming world is getting very expensive so much so we have started to trim back services with many others doing the same. I’m pretty sure some will struggle going forward with the sheer amount of services and content available.

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Well, it doesn’t.

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The advantage of the streamers is you can dip in and out. No need to subscribe to them all at once, or just one all the time.

They are much better value than the pay TV channels, which tie you into long contractual arrangements.

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Disney+ is the only streamer I need because you get the latest films around 60 days after releasing in cinemas, shows from stations like ABC, FX, Fox and Disney Channel now debut here. All for £80 annually! What’s not to like?

I get free Netflix from my uncle (but rarely use it) and Spotify also provides decent value.

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Not for long they are clamping down on password sharing. Just be aware mate.

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Had a drink with some friend from old work place tonight they was saying the streaming bubble is about to burst, what started of as a novelty with Netflix and Amazon video services is now becoming a pain to keep up with there are too many streaming services now and the content being scattered across different streaming platforms makes something that was once incredible value for money now quite expensive and people aren't happy with it.
Streaming services need to be extremely careful with the likes of Netflix raising prices in times where living costs are at a all time high could price the likes of Netflix out of peoples price range.

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Very interesting. A new model for TV content will be needed soon.

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Is that how VM explain the lack of streaming services on the V6 and 360?

I will ditch the TV channels before I dump the streaming services, so it’s VM that need to watch out. I may be making my decision to do just that when my existing contract runs out, because we are getting to the point now where everything on the pay TV channels is on the streamers as well.

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All that is needed is an AVOD version of the streamers. That will address the financial squeeze that people are starting to endure.

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Nothing to do with VM this is information they had come into the office via a study that was done, people are feeling the squeeze more than ever now and subscription services are on very thin ice.

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What makes streamers believe advertisers will make up the shortfall? After all, who wants to advertise to people who have little/no money left over for discretionary expenditure.

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That assumes that people with money wouldn't watch AVOD services.

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Well, if it’s the solution for streamers to the fact people have less money to spend it’s implied.

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Not really. Some people don’t pay for their TV (other than the licence fee) on principle.

A couple of our friends are millionaires but they don’t subscribe to any pay TV channels or streamers. They are happy enough with the free stuff.

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That'll be why they're millionaires :)

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Yes, but those aren’t within the scope of:

It’s a principled point for them as you say. This wouldn’t represent streamers adapting to a changing market.

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as it is costing next to nothing to have the TV service over BB only. it is the reason I haven't moved to Freeview. :) Before someone asks paying around £39 for maxit ? 100gig and land line .

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BT Sport / Discovery merger latest:

Information was posted on DS Forum by "TSE". https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...ment_100730463

DS Forum user "TSE" also posted a link to a Pay wall story on The Times website: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f...dent-n5kh6l6tg

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See for me Disney + just doesn’t have the variety of content others do , I’m not interested in Marvel or Star Wars and the kids have grown out of the younger stuff. Disney don’t seem to have done enough with the Star content , it has a decent back catalogue but if you’ve seen a lot of it that loses appeal.

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It does, I agree, but as long as the keep adding originals each week, it becomes worthwhile.

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I'm considering subscribing to Disney+ as it's part of Tesco Club Card deals where £8 of vouchers gets you a 3 month subscription, so can't go wrong with that price?

Are we able to account share like we can currently with Netflix until they stop it?

https://secure.tesco.com/clubcard/vo.../UK-010043.prd

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I do not think Netflix can stop it unless when asked your shares say oh yeah I do not live there

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Hopefully as I share with parents and my partner's son in Bulgaria.

I suspect they will figure it out with IPs.

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The problem with fixing it to an IP will mean if you watch on your main tv via Internet - you may then get blocked switching over to your mobile phone later.

And what if you modem gets a new IP address overnight?

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after a number of years they still aint bothered to suss out I do not live in Turkey so not over worried about IPs. Loads of ways they cannot do it. What if home users use VPNs as said what if on mobile. They also say you just have to live in the house and can use it elsewhere so IP locking I seriously doubt will happen

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Mine doesn't work if not on VPN ! :confused:

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Mine works fine for UK with no vpn but with vpn set to US and Canada I can view their Netflix

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So Plex have just released a beta of a unified search function which they are calling Discover.

They claim it lets you search for films or TV shows and then gives you a list of all the available outlets. One of the nice features is it also searches your own media library. Results are presented in a normal plex layout and there's even a nice clip of theme music too.

You can choose from a list of streaming services to search from and as of today there are 63 on the list.

Tested it out by searching for Breaking Bad (couple of photos attached). The first thing you get is a choice of results from your search term then a dedicated screen for the chosen result.

When I clicked on the Netflix link it sent me to the correct place. The only downside is there is no automatic return to Plex on our Sony TV (running Google TV) so to get back to the Plex search I had to reload the Plex app. But it's a Beta feature so may improve.

Now all they need to do is include linear TV schedules in the search and they may have a winning formula.

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Good find, thank you, Grim.

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ITVX to launch next week?
Tv and sattelite weekly now have ITVX in their streaming section for next week.

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I did notice that, but it says ‘launching later this year’. I suspect we will get it around about the autumn.

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Isn't launching until 4th quarter of this year , in time for Fifa World Cup
https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/itvx-m...aming-service/

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I thought so OB and Timelord, tv satellite weekly jumping the gun a bit lol.

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Sounds like HBO Max is not coming to UK until 2025.
https://www.filmstories.co.uk/news/h...l-end-of-2025/

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There was article on broadcastnow about it
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/inter...169421.article

HBO Max’s Japanese Crime Series ‘Tokyo Vice’ Sells Wide

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv...de-1235126648/

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One would imagine anyone that wanted it could get it with a VPN though

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Surely with the launch of future services Paramount + , HBO and ITV X this puts Netflix under even more pressure to standout from the crowd people only have so much money to go around and will become even more selective.

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Up to a point perhaps, but there are a lot of streamers out there already and the cost of living is rising. The streamers people already subscribe to are now well established and are producing second, third and fourth seasons of popular shows that viewers have bought into. So if it’s a case of ‘we can afford either Paramount or Netflix’, Netflix has a built in advantage even without doing anything more than it already is.

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Netflix already stands out from the crowd - this is a matter of other streamers trying to become even half as good.

Netflix has far more originals than any other streamer.

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Netflix is increasing its prices next month.

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Netflix also display shows they acquire and premiere as 'A Netflix Original Series' misleading imo.

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The current climate may hit the streamers harder than linear TV.

My reason for thinking this, a lot of sky/virgin customers will be locked into contracts of up to 18 months - exiting these can be costly.

Streamers generally are on a rolling monthly contract so when you need to save money they will be the first to go.

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I don’t disagree but it’s reaching maturity and saturation in some regions which is reflected in its share performance , its most recent price increase and loss of third party content won’t help the situation either.

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Given that Netflix was so cheap, is that surprising?

As they say, you pays your price and you takes your choice!

You don't get something for nothing in this life, I'm afraid.

Subscribe to a cheaper streamer and you'll soon find out why it's cheaper. Just like when you compare Marks and Spencer with Aldi.

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Honest people don't

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Tbf M+S ain't all that anymore Aldi has a lot of quality products you should try it,
as for Netflix they are on thin ice regarding price rises with cost of living rising faster than a hot air ballon Netflix may find it has risen prices once too many times.

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Not just 18 month contracts - a supplier of multiple services.

I'm happy to chop and change to get value, but parents at their home are on an Ultimate Volt-ish package for about £110.

Phone line with unlimited calls is a must (yes, I know), Sky Sports is a must, FTTP not available.

So what's the options? £20 for phone/fttc, £33 for Sky Sports (Now), £16 for an unlimited SIM only package. So you're already at £70 for an extremely reduced service, with no recording convenience.

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Given they have no viable business model at current prices, no, I'm not surprised in the slightest.

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Apparently streaming services are being dropped in huge numbers (1.2 million) over the last 9 months.

I suspect some of this is down to people returning to work (just as a lot of the increase was down to lockdown/furlough), but also people cutting costs.

Over 47% of regular payments dropped in that time were for streaming services.

Source Daily Telegraph today

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Well, it can’t continue expanding indefinitely. Netflix is getting to the point where it will need to reduce its output of originals and start concentrating on paying off its debts.

It can turn things around by charging more, offering a premium tier with exclusive screenings, pay per view and a scaled down AVOD service for those who don’t want to pay a subscription.

There are multiple other ways it could increase income if it wants to. Netflix won’t be going anywhere in my lifetime. It is by far the most popular streamer and as long as it has more originals than their competitors and keeps up the quality, it looks pretty safe to me.

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They already offer a Premium tier it’s £15.99 offers 4 simultaneous streams and 4K HDR unless your suggesting a Premium Premium tier.:D:D

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Yes, that’s what I have, but I meant a premium tier content-wise.

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It certainly seems that way.

Streaming Services to See 150M Cancellations Next Year as Churn Heats Up, Deloitte Predicts

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...235055461/amp/

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I have that tier but pay £2.89 for it vpn set to argentina when signing up.
Edit Premium tier not premium premium tier lol.

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You told us Netflix is already the gold standard of movies and TV content , unless your considering watering down their current offering.

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No, that is your assumption, but it is not what I meant. I’m talking about additional quality content such as concerts, sport and early viewings of new films, etc.

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So basically spend more on content ?

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Paid for with the premium content subscriptions.

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So basically become the equivalent of Sky ? Wouldn’t that also mean those on lower tiers would see their prices increase whether interested in Sport or not ?