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jfman 28-10-2023 19:48
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36162960)
Maybe it should rebrand as 'GB Entertainment' rather than pretending to be a news channel?
Watching swivel eyed loon nutter rants is slightly entertaining in short bursts. Don't think Drama+1 has anything to worry about though.
Can still catch Lozza on ITV3 repeats of Lewis.

Russ 28-10-2023 20:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36162958)
I don’t watch any of them either.



Yes Anne Diamond what a bitch, and Eamonn Holmes is a fascist.

Andrew Doyle is a dick and John Cleese a total knobhead.

Are they? Well you wouldn’t know as you don’t watch their shows.

You can hold your opinions on the persons you mentioned, absolutely, but to wish an entire channel that employs many hundreds of people to be banned………………
I appreciate the overreaction but I doubt GB News would lay anyone off if the Senedd continues with its ban.

RichardCoulter 28-10-2023 21:59
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Oh the latest GB News appointment is being discussed in here. I though it was this thread:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33712229

Do we know whose funding this channel as it can't be making any money?

Pierre 28-10-2023 22:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36162969)
Do we know who’s funding this channel as it can't be making any money?
I am Richard,

I took out a second mortgage and have several payday loans. If you would like to invest send me your details.

richard-john56 29-10-2023 11:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36162957)
“The odd Twitter clip”

Right.

More than that.

I make no secret of the fact I can’t stand JRM or bullshitting Boris. And Farage turning up at the Senedd under the curious assumption that anyone in Wales gives 2 shits about his opinion, the guy is completely delusional.

Add in to the mix the proven bullshitters they have presenting shows, plus the unsavoury staff I’ve personally had contact with.

No you’re right, I’m completely lacking in any objectivity here.
Correct in all what you have stated.

Sephiroth 29-10-2023 19:38
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36162964)
I appreciate the overreaction but I doubt GB News would lay anyone off if the Senedd continues with its ban.
It's that Senedd you should be criticising. Dictators of both wings banned the free press of the day and the Welsh government seems to be of that ilk now.

Pierre 29-10-2023 20:05
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Sep, you have to remember that when the Nazis rose to power, the German population were behind them. When the Jews were persecuted and eventually exterminated, I’ll grant the German population did not all know about the death camps, but they were happy see the Jews carted off….to where they knew not, but probably didn’t care.

The point I’m making is that when banning opinions you don’t like, people you don’t like becomes mainstream we’re on dangerous ground.

Russ 29-10-2023 22:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163029)
It's that Senedd you should be criticising. Dictators of both wings banned the free press of the day and the Welsh government seems to be of that ilk now.
A) I wasn’t aware there were rules on who or what I should be criticising

B) What makes you think I haven’t previously criticised the Senedd?

Given the elevated level of BS about to be spouted when proven bullshitter Boris starts his show I see nothing wrong with agreeing with a ban (or at least a partial blockage) of GB News there.

Pierre 29-10-2023 22:21
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Banning of any speech is next stop to the authoritarianism state of your choice.

Yes there are caveats. Incitement to violence of course ( someone should tell the Met what Jihad actually means)

But banning speech because “you don’t like it”, well if you want your descendants to end up in a gulag for wrong think, crack on.

Russ 29-10-2023 22:27
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Yeah no worries I’ll keep cracking. Because I didn’t say “I want it banned because I don’t like it” though did I?

That’s twice you’ve accused me of saying it now. I’m getting the hint but I’m not biting sorry.

Pierre 29-10-2023 22:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36163039)
Yeah no worries I’ll keep cracking. Because I didn’t say “I want it banned because I don’t like it” though did I?
Not against it though. Pretty supportive I would say. Keep cracking.

Russ 29-10-2023 22:34
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If (twice) trying to put words in someone’s mouth flicks your switch then good on you. Pleased you’ve found a distraction (from reality) hobby.

Pierre 29-10-2023 22:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36163041)
If (twice) trying to put words in someone’s mouth flicks your switch
Yes of course, I said

Quote:
Not against it though. Pretty supportive I would say. Keep cracking.
In response to

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36162925)
good on the Senedd for taking a stand against this crap. Hopefully, this gives them even more motivation to keep it banned there.

“Good on the Senedd”. Sounds pretty supportive to me. “Hopefully it gives them even more motivation to keep it banned “ hardly critical is it.

If you support the suppression of speech you disagree with, just say so, I’d at least respect your position.

I’m not putting words in anyone’s mouth. The only other thing that could fit in your mouth at this point is your foot.

Russ 30-10-2023 04:35
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Doesn’t quite work that way though does it?

You can admire someone’s decision without supporting it.

As an example i could, let’s say, admire your dedication to spouting absolute bollards.

Doesn’t mean I support the absolute bollards that you’d be spouting.

Just because you’re not 100% against something doesn’t mean you’re 100% in favour of it.

TheDaddy 31-10-2023 09:36
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36162900)
Standards in news broadcasting is important whether people watch it or not. That said - I think there’s the potential for this to improve their credibility, and it could be an interesting watch depending on the style and output of the show.

If he’s just another shock jock evangelising about anything and everything probably neither will be true.
Ffs how low is their credibility if hiring a man who lost every job he ever had for lying will improve it, I won't be watching, I tired of his act after his second or third appearance on have I got news for you and he's been playing that act his whole life, poor bumbling boris, it worked well with matron when he was nicking other kids tuck so why change a winning trick

Sephiroth 31-10-2023 09:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36163129)
Ffs how low is their credibility if hiring a man who lost every job he ever had for lying will improve it, I won't be watching, I tired of his act after his second or third appearance on have I got news for you and he's been playing that act his whole life, poor bumbling boris, it worked well with matron when he was nicking other kids tuck so why change a winning trick
You're allowing your disdain (hatred?) for Boris to influence your objectivity on GB News. It is an excellent station which brings news from a non-woke angle. Very refreshing.

Boris will be good entertainment.

1andrew1 31-10-2023 10:31
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36163129)
Ffs how low is their credibility if hiring a man who lost every job he ever had for lying will improve it
You've absolutely nailed it there!

GB News has dropped from Andrew Neil's efforts at a serious news channel to a station frequented by shock jocks preaching to the converted who are uncomfortable with the challenge of the breadth of opinions that better-watched channels deliver.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163130)

Boris will be good entertainment.
Hence why it should be renamed to GB Entertainment! ;)

I think Johnson will be vying (not a typo!) with Farage for best presenter, it will be interesting to see how those two get on!

Sephiroth 31-10-2023 10:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163131)
You've absolutely nailed it there!

GB News has dropped from Andrew Neil's efforts at a serious news channel to a station frequented by shock jocks preaching to the converted who are uncomfortable with the challenge of the breadth of opinions that better-watched channels deliver.

---------- Post added at 10:31 ---------- Previous post was at 10:30 ----------


Hence why it should be renamed to GB Entertainment! ;)

I think Johnson will be vying (not a typo!) with Farage for best presenter, it will be interesting to see how those two get on!
I'm surprised at your tendency toward groupthink, at least so far as GB News is concerned. They are so unlike the carefully guarded BBC/ITV/SKY and bring exposé to the news.

As regards Boris v Farage, the latter will lower his gravitas if he goes onto Celebrity. Thing about Farage is that he is usually right on what he picks out and highlights as ridiculous government decisions/activities. Boris is just a bumbling buffoon, who might get the 9pm slot.

Farage tells it like it is and he puts balance in from time to time by interviewing the 'other side' without putting them through the mill.

You seem to be associating yourself with leftie groupthink regarding GB News. I hope you watch it in which case, please give me examples of bad reporting.

Hugh 31-10-2023 11:13
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You appear to be associating yourself with rightie groupthink regarding GB News.

1andrew1 31-10-2023 11:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163133)
I'm surprised at your tendency toward groupthink, at least so far as GB News is concerned. They are so unlike the carefully guarded BBC/ITV/SKY and bring exposé to the news.

As regards Boris v Farage, the latter will lower his gravitas if he goes onto Celebrity. Thing about Farage is that he is usually right on what he picks out and highlights as ridiculous government decisions/activities. Boris is just a bumbling buffoon, who might get the 9pm slot.

Farage tells it like it is and he puts balance in from time to time by interviewing the 'other side' without putting them through the mill.

You seem to be associating yourself with leftie groupthink regarding GB News. I hope you watch it in which case, please give me examples of bad reporting.
GB News is all about right-wing collective group think. No presenters are hired unless they've worked for the Conservative Party or UKIP or similar right-wing party or institution. It's a real comfort zone for those who don't like to be challenged by having neutral or left of centre presenters in the room.

GB News is no Panorama and is not the home of investigative journalism. It's an echo chamber of shock jocks which is racking up Ofcom fines, that's your evidence for bad reporting.

I will follow Johnson's time there with interest.

Sephiroth 31-10-2023 11:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163136)
GB News is all about right-wing collective group think. No presenters are hired unless they've worked for the Conservative Party or UKIP or similar right-wing party or institution. It's a real comfort zone for those who don't like to be challenged by having neutral or left of centre presenters in the room.

GB News is no Panorama and is not the home of investigative journalism. It's an echo chamber of shock jocks which is racking up Ofcom fines, that's your evidence for bad reporting.

I will follow Johnson's time there with interest.
You've gone a bit extreme there, although a lesser degree of your assertion would be true. It's the 'right wing' assertion that bothers me - and therein lies the groupthink. 'Rightist' might be a better description that counters my 'leftie' description of the other news channels.

Hugh 31-10-2023 12:14
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What’s the difference between "rightist" and "right wing"?

This is what you get if you type "rightist definition politics" into Google

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...6&d=1698754458

Or the Cambridge Dictionary definition

Quote:
a politician who supports the beliefs of the political right, especially the extreme right:

You appear to be indulging in both casuistry and tautology…

Sephiroth 31-10-2023 12:26
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36163141)
What’s the difference between "rightist" and "right wing"?

This is what you get if you type "rightist definition politics" into Google

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...6&d=1698754458

Or the Cambridge Dictionary definition


You appear to be indulging in both casuistry and tautology…

You are vastly overthinking this - probably for the purpose of your usual, annoying, contrariness.

"Rightist" is a reasonable counterpoise to "Leftist" and hence "Leftie".

Pierre 31-10-2023 13:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163136)
GB News is all about right-wing collective group think. No presenters are hired unless they've worked for the Conservative Party or UKIP or similar right-wing party or institution.
Anne Diamond, Eamonn Holmes, Michelle Dewbury, Stephen Dixon, Neil Oliver, Simon Evans, Mark Dolan, Isabel Webster.....I could go on.

All far right fascists, according to unhinged member.

1andrew1 31-10-2023 13:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163137)
You've gone a bit extreme there, although a lesser degree of your assertion would be true. It's the 'right wing' assertion that bothers me - and therein lies the groupthink. 'Rightist' might be a better description that counters my 'leftie' description of the other news channels.
I think it's quite evidently right-wing in accordance with its owners' wishes who underwrite the project. Nigel Farage, Lawrence Fox and Dan Wootton all meet this criteria. There's no left-wing presenters or centrist presenters to change this collective group think.

The heavily-regulated news channels from the BBC and Sky News aren't opinion channels in the way that GB News is. The closest channel to it in format is probably TalkTV which is right of centre but more journalist led.

Hugh 31-10-2023 13:51
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163143)

You are vastly overthinking this - probably for the purpose of your usual, annoying, contrariness.

"Rightist" is a reasonable counterpoise to "Leftist" and hence "Leftie".
Stating facts ≠ overthinking.

"Everyone knows" what rightist means…

If pointing out your tautological casuistry is contrariness, I plead guilty in the court of actuality, Your Honour… ;)

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36163145)
Anne Diamond, Eamonn Holmes, Michelle Dewbury, Stephen Dixon, Neil Oliver, Simon Evans, Mark Dolan, Isabel Webster.....I could go on.

All far right fascists, according to unhinged member.
Can’t find anyone* in this thread calling them fascists…

*except you, in post #999, re Eamonn Holmes

Sephiroth 31-10-2023 13:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36163150)
Stating facts ≠ overthinking.

"Everyone knows" what rightist means…

If pointing out your tautological casuistry is contrariness, I plead guilty in the court of actuality, Your Honour… ;)
I sentence you to 2 years suspended for 5 minutes for you to collect your dictionaries.

Itshim 31-10-2023 18:38
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Bring on fox news !

Hugh 31-10-2023 20:16
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36163165)
Bring on fox news !
Been there, done that, closed it down…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41087659

Quote:
Sky stops broadcasting Fox News in UK

Published 29 August 2017

Sky is to stop broadcasting Fox News in the UK after low audience figures, the media firm has said.

21st Century Fox, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, said the channel was being withdrawn as it was not commercially viable.

The decision was not related to Fox's takeover bid for Sky, a source told the BBC.

Culture secretary Karen Bradley has previously said she may refer the bid to competition regulators.

"[Fox] has decided to cease providing a feed of Fox News Channel in the UK," a company spokeswoman said.

"Fox News is focused on the US market and designed for a US audience and, accordingly, it averages only a few thousand viewers across the day in the UK.

"We have concluded that it is not in our commercial interest to continue providing Fox News in the UK," she added.

Mr K 31-10-2023 20:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36163165)
Bring on fox news !
Or John Craven's Newsround, 100 times the journalistic integrity of GB 'news'.

Maybe Craven could be open to an offer?

Pierre 31-10-2023 21:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36163168)
Been there, done that, closed it down…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41087659
Has it been that long!

I used to watch O’Reilly, before he got fired. I thought he was a self absorbed arrogant prick, but very watchable. Didn’t realise it’s been 6 years.

Mick 02-11-2023 04:57
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163136)
GB News is all about right-wing collective group think. No presenters are hired unless they've worked for the Conservative Party or UKIP or similar right-wing party or institution. It's a real comfort zone for those who don't like to be challenged by having neutral or left of centre presenters in the room.

GB News is no Panorama and is not the home of investigative journalism. It's an echo chamber of shock jocks which is racking up Ofcom fines, that's your evidence for bad reporting.

I will follow Johnson's time there with interest.
GB News has not had any financial penalties in any of the declared Ofcom breaches.

Great analysis, now do the pathetic lefty rags like guardian, or woke lefty. channel 4. Echo chambers for you Remainiacs. :rolleyes:

Russ 02-11-2023 15:21
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36163215)
GB News has not had any financial penalties in any of the declared Ofcom breaches.
In fairness it’s only been going a few years. I’m not sure I’m aware of any news outlets that have fallen foul to that level with Ofcom within its first few years.

But let’s not allow our hopes to drop - even a blind squirrel finds a nut eventually :D

TheDaddy 02-11-2023 15:29
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36163236)
But let’s not allow our hopes to drop - even a blind squirrel finds a nut eventually :D
And if it's nutty enough they'll probably give it a presenting job

1andrew1 02-11-2023 15:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36163215)
GB News has not had any financial penalties in any of the declared Ofcom breaches.

Great analysis, now do the pathetic lefty rags like guardian, or woke lefty. channel 4. Echo chambers for you Remainiacs. :rolleyes:
I thought GB News had been fined when I read articles such as

GB News presenter quits after channel tries to make him pay Ofcom fines

It sounds like when push came to shove they decided against it.

However, they have obviously had several rulings made against their programming.

Russ 02-11-2023 15:45
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From that link:

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The presenter said he used to call GB News’s in-house compliance officer “Ofcom’s bitch” when they argued about what he was allowed to say on air.
:rofl:

Itshim 02-11-2023 17:18
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Guess it's say what you like as long as you agree with us, don't upset the snowflakes or the lefties

Hugh 02-11-2023 17:19
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36163241)
Guess it's say what you like as long as you agree with us, don't upset the snowflakes or the lefties
No, that’s not what it’s saying…

The actual ruling was that they only had people on who agreed with them, and not anyone to provide an alternative view.

So close*…

*if you count being completely wrong as "so close"…

Mr K 02-11-2023 20:17
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36163237)
And if it's nutty enough they'll probably give it a presenting job
They should hire David Icke to do the sport and report on remainiac lizards taking over the world....

Itshim 02-11-2023 20:28
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36163242)
No, that’s not what it’s saying…

The actual ruling was that they only had people on who agreed with them, and not anyone to provide an alternative view.

So close*…

*if you count being completely wrong as "so close"…
Thank you. You so fit the profile.

Hugh 02-11-2023 20:49
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36163248)
Thank you. You so fit the profile.
As I’m ex-Military, ex-Tory Parliamentary Candidate, ex-Office Holder in Yorkshire Area Conservatives, attended a couple of dozen Conservative Party Conferences, had lunch with Thatcher twice, what profile would that be?

Sephiroth 02-11-2023 20:56
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36163250)
As I’m ex-Military, ex-Tory Parliamentary Candidate, ex-Office Holder in Yorkshire Area Conservatives, attended a couple of dozen Conservative Party Conferences, had lunch with Thatcher twice, what profile would that be?
Up oneself?

Mr K 02-11-2023 21:12
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163251)
Up oneself?
How is your best buddie Mr Redwood? What career move is he planning after the next election? ;)

Sephiroth 02-11-2023 21:33
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36163252)
How is your best buddie Mr Redwood? What career move is he planning after the next election? ;)
He will in any case have had a good run, placed in jeopardy by Boris & Truss.

Hugh 02-11-2023 21:36
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36163252)
How is your best buddie Mr Redwood? What career move is he planning after the next election? ;)
Same gig - shorting Britain…

Russ 03-11-2023 14:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163251)
Up oneself?
AKA quoting Monty Python…

“Alright then. We’ll call it a draw”.

Maggy 04-11-2023 11:41
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163251)
Up oneself?
Takes one to know one.

Sephiroth 04-11-2023 13:44
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36163318)
Takes one to know one.
And you know that?

The trouble with you GB News haters (I don't particularly include Hugh in that assessment) is the leftie group think which loves the established news channels which are essentially leftie organs.

It was GB News that brought out the story of the police arresting a man in East London making a video and commentating to it. AfaIk, only the Daily Express also picked up on that.

It was GB News that filmed the boat people dumping their ID and phones in the channel.

GB News brings balance to the wide picture.


1701-e 05-11-2023 15:39
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https://x.com/PickardJE/status/17209...NGhGfC32A&s=08. Champions of free speech indeed

Russ 05-11-2023 15:45
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Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36163409)
Bringing balance to the wide picture.

Just as long as that width extends to the right..

1andrew1 05-11-2023 19:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36163409)
Only the right type of free speech is permitted on GB News.

Sephiroth 05-11-2023 19:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163423)
Only the right type of free speech is permitted on GB News.
I'm shocked, frankly. It'll cost them.

1andrew1 06-11-2023 00:17
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163425)
I'm shocked, frankly. It'll cost them.
I'm not shocked.

The fact that they only have right-wing politicians as hosts is a red flag on the extent of their free speech. And if this was in any doubt, we only have to look at the suspension of Guto Harri, suspended by the station for taking the knee.

Mr K 06-11-2023 07:11
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163423)
Only the right type of free speech is permitted on GB News.
It's an increasing trend from the right to only allow/tolerate one point of view. Whether its GB news or those peacefully protesting about what's happening in Gaza.

Fight for free speech of course, as long as its just our speech... GB news is a symptom of our once proud country's downward spiral. We'll end up like 1930s Germany if we're not careful.

Sephiroth 06-11-2023 07:54
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36163457)
It's an increasing trend from the right to only allow/tolerate one point of view. Whether its GB news or those peacefully protesting about what's happening in Gaza.

Fight for free speech of course, as long as its just our speech... GB news is a symptom of our once proud country's downward spiral. We'll end up like 1930s Germany if we're not careful.
But there's the "left" (Starmer) allowing only one point of view on the Gaza business; and the "extreme left" only tolerating a pro-Palestinian point of view. Rounding like you do on GB News is hypocritical.

As for ending up like 1930s Germany, that's my worry when we're all made to face East in 50 or so years' time.

1andrew1 06-11-2023 10:20
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163459)
But there's the "left" (Starmer) allowing only one point of view on the Gaza business; and the "extreme left" only tolerating a pro-Palestinian point of view. Rounding like you do on GB News is hypocritical.

As for ending up like 1930s Germany, that's my worry when we're all made to face East in 50 or so years' time.
It's a thread about two TV channels not the Labour Party!

And wiser souls than me on here have rebutted your projections about the UK becoming a Muslim state with an evidence-based approach.

1701-e 11-11-2023 16:43
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Watching a bit of this channel this afternoon and they seem to be wetting themselves trying to defend the right wing thugs near the cenotaph

Russ 11-11-2023 19:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163459)

As for ending up like 1930s Germany, that's my worry when we're all made to face East in 50 or so years' time.

Let's just pretend for a moment that your ridiculous notion has at least some merit. Just for a moment.

If the government couldn't "make" people wear masks and "make" them stay indoors during the pandemic what in the blue hell gives you the impression they'll "make" us all pray to Mecca?

Would YOU do it? Somehow I doubt it. Would "are Tommeh" and his types do it? Even bigger doubt.

Great straw man, however sadly lacking in any credibility.

Sephiroth 11-11-2023 19:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36163860)
Let's just pretend for a moment that your ridiculous notion has at least some merit. Just for a moment.

If the government couldn't "make" people wear masks and "make" them stay indoors during the pandemic what in the blue hell gives you the impression they'll "make" us all pray to Mecca?

Would YOU do it? Somehow I doubt it. Would "are Tommeh" and his types do it? Even bigger doubt.

Great straw man, however sadly lacking in any credibility.
See 1930s Germany for details.

Russ 11-11-2023 19:32
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That’s not an answer though is it? Asking me to refer to a different country, from a different time (and century), different government and a different culture.

Now try again please.

Sephiroth 11-11-2023 19:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36163867)
That’s not an answer though is it? Asking me to refer to a different country, from a different time (and century), different government and a different culture.

Now try again please.
I'm referring you to herd behaviour, antisemitism, and the outcome if they come to power.

Russ 11-11-2023 19:45
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
For herd behaviour to be effective you need the entire nation on board. This is the ONLY time that conspiracy theorist contrarian idiots will be useful.

There is no way any government of ours will get everyone to believe and agree on the same things. We have far too many “why should I, you can’t tell me what to do” types to get enough of the population to convert to Islam.

I most likely won’t be here in your 50 year timeframe but if I was, and was also a gambling man I’d happily put my life savings on it.

richard-john56 12-11-2023 11:41
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36163845)
Watching a bit of this channel this afternoon and they seem to be wetting themselves trying to defend the right wing thugs near the cenotaph
They remind me of Fox News all dumb and one sided.

Russ 12-11-2023 14:42
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
I think that was the intention all along

Mr K 16-11-2023 19:54
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...es-ad-boycott/
Quote:
GB News has launched an online paywall as the start-up broadcaster seeks new revenue streams in the face of an ongoing advertiser boycott.

The outspoken news channel is rolling out a membership scheme that will offer exclusive commentary and analysis on its website to paying subscribers.

GB News is offering three membership tiers charged at £5, £10 and £20 per month.
You're going to have to pay to hear the vitriol now...

Sky Sports will be scared rigid ;)

1andrew1 16-11-2023 21:05
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36164352)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...es-ad-boycott/
You're going to have to pay to hear the vitriol now...

Sky Sports will be scared rigid ;)
I imagine our Wokingham correspondents will be amongst the first subscribers. ;)

Mr K 16-11-2023 21:07
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36164361)
I imagine our Wokingham correspondents will be amongst the first subscribers. ;)
Don't know about that. OB's wallet rarely gets an airing ;)

1andrew1 19-02-2024 20:41
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I wonder what proportion of Ofcom staff are having to investigate GB News?
Quote:
Ofcom has launched an investigation into Rishi Sunak's recent appearance on GB News.

The prime minister answered questions on a range of topics from an audience on the show, but complainants alleged that no alternative view was offered.

The "due impartiality" requirement in current affairs output does not mean that the same amount of time needs to be given to opposing views. However, audiences need to be exposed to alternative ways of thinking.

GB News is currently being investigated by Ofcom for a number of other shows, including many over impartiality issues.

In September it was found to have breached these rules after Chancellor Jeremy Hunt was interviewed by fellow Tory MPs Esther McVey and Philip Davies about the upcoming Autumn Statement.

Ofcom said its investigation found the programme was "overwhelmingly reflective of the viewpoints of different strands of opinion within the Conservative Party" and the news channel "failed to represent and give due weight to an appropriately wide range of significant views on a matter of major political controversy".

The issue of political figures presenting topical programmes is increasingly becoming contentious as more MPs take these jobs.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...ba031b66&ei=35

Pierre 19-02-2024 20:55
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36170546)
I wonder what proportion of Ofcom staff are having to investigate GB News?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...ba031b66&ei=35
What a load of bollocks.

Quote:
The prime minister answered questions on a range of topics from an audience on the show, but complainants alleged that no alternative view was offered.
A Q&A with the PM, Blair did them, what alternative view are they after?

Damien 19-02-2024 21:46
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36170552)
What a load of bollocks.



A Q&A with the PM, Blair did them, what alternative view are they after?
OFCOM will probably look to see how much he was challenged. There was a rogue anti-vaxxer which might be enough but otherwise the questions were largely softballs.

If GB News can show they had a proper cross-section of voters in the audience then I suspect OFCOM won't do anything.

Sephiroth 19-02-2024 21:51
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36164361)
I imagine our Wokingham correspondents will be amongst the first subscribers. ;)
Why?

1andrew1 19-02-2024 22:47
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36170552)
What a load of bollocks.

A Q&A with the PM, Blair did them, what alternative view are they after?
It obviously depends on the questions. If there's more fawning in them than Bambi then there's a problem.

Hugh 05-03-2024 18:26
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Dan Wootton no longer employed by GB News after Ofcom ruling

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68470283

Quote:
Dan Wootton has parted company with GB News, a day after media regulator Ofcom found that an episode of his show broke its broadcasting rules.

Wootton was suspended by the channel in September after comments by Laurence Fox about a female journalist prompted 8,867 complaints to the watchdog.

Ofcom's ruling, published on Monday, said Fox's remarks "were clearly and unambiguously misogynistic".

Wootton said he had left GB News to launch his own independent platform.
He said it would not be regulated by the "Ofcommunist censors", adding: "Yesterday's chilling Ofcom report clearly raises far bigger issues."

In its statement on Tuesday, the TV channel said: "Dan Wootton joined GB News before its launch and was a part of the first on-air line up.

"Dan is no longer employed by GB News and we thank him for his contribution and wish him well with his future endeavours."

1andrew1 05-03-2024 19:03
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Quote:
GB News owner pumps in further £41mn in funding as losses widen

Vehicle backed by hedge fund tycoon Paul Marshall steps in as right-leaning broadcaster increases number of staff

GB News owner All Perspectives, the group backed by hedge fund tycoon Paul Marshall, has been forced to provide a further £41mn in funding to cover operating costs at the lossmaking broadcaster.

GB News revealed a pre-tax loss of £42.4mn in its 2022/23 accounts published at Companies House on Tuesday, a sharp increase in losses from £30.8mn the year before.

The right-leaning broadcaster launched in 2021 with backing from Marshall, who owns more than a third of All Perspectives, alongside Legatum, a Dubai-headquartered investment firm, which also owns a large stake. All Perspectives is now owed £83.8mn by GB News after the group agreed to provide a further £41mn during the course of the year, according to the accounts.

Other directors of All Perspectives include City executive Baroness Helena Morrissey and George Farmer, the son of ex-Conservative party treasurer Lord Farmer and a former chief executive of Parler, the conservative social media site, which has now closed.

Marshall and GB News did not respond to requests for comment.
https://www.ft.com/content/42e2dee8-...f-248bb9403387

Hugh 05-03-2024 20:22
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
You know what they say…

"Go woke, go broke!"

Sephiroth 05-03-2024 20:32
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Talk TV to close.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...go-online-only

I know what the GB News haters will say!

1andrew1 05-03-2024 20:43
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171460)
Yet more evidence that linear TV is on its last legs and streaming is the future. ;)

Damien 05-03-2024 21:38
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Pretty remarkable Talk TV is the one that failed considering it had the backing of News Corp.

Hugh 05-03-2024 21:46
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171460)
Talk TV to close.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...go-online-only

I know what the GB News haters will say!
Everyone knows what that means…

1andrew1 05-03-2024 22:17
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36171472)
Pretty remarkable Talk TV is the one that failed considering it had the backing of News Corp.
News Corp is a profit-making company listed on Nasdaq so promoting a right-wing perspective is secondary to making money.

GB News by comparison is a private company there to promote a right-wing perspective and making money is secondary to its propaganda role.

Sephiroth 05-03-2024 23:26
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36171478)
News Corp is a profit-making company listed on Nasdaq so promoting a right-wing perspective is secondary to making money.

GB News by comparison is a private company there to promote a right-wing perspective and making money is secondary to its propaganda role.
Nicely put, though I rate GB News particularly for its investigative journalism.

Hugh 05-03-2024 23:35
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171482)
Nicely put, though I rate GB News particularly for its investigative journalism.
Can you provide any examples, please?

Mr K 11-03-2024 18:59
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171482)
Nicely put, though I rate GB News particularly for its investigative journalism.
Well it is getting investigated a lot by Ofcom, is that what you mean? ;)

Sephiroth 11-03-2024 19:03
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36171870)
Well it is getting investigated a lot by Ofcom, is that what you mean? ;)
Of course not. I'm not at all happy about the people who complain to Ofcom just because they don't like GB News.

1701-e 11-03-2024 20:41
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36171483)
Can you provide any examples, please?
I see you never got a reply to this Hugh ....

Sephiroth 11-03-2024 23:03
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36171875)
I see you never got a reply to this Hugh ....
Doesn't need an example. Watch GB News and you'll notice their investigations.

One of their most notable, was the filmed goings on in the Channel on the migrant boats.

1701-e 12-03-2024 09:11
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Ah no chance that I'll ever watch that right wing nonsense channel ever again.
So no links to any investigative journalism....

Hugh 12-03-2024 10:02
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2 Attachment(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36171896)
Ah no chance that I'll ever watch that right wing nonsense channel ever again.
So no links to any investigative journalism....
Any moment now…

Quote:
Everyone knows what I/it means….
Anyhoo, speaking of unfounded irrational statements…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1710238664

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1710238423

Pierre 12-03-2024 11:10
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36171898)
Any moment now…



Anyhoo, speaking of unfounded irrational statements…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1710238664

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1710238423
I had sympathy for Fox, after QT. He did nothing wrong and I agreed with him.

But I think, he's gone so far down a rabbit hole, I fear for his mental state.

There was a way after QT, that he could have held on to his view and ride the pile on and attempted cancellation and possibly come out the other side still intact.

But he gone full Toto.

ianch99 12-03-2024 12:42
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36171898)
Any moment now…



Anyhoo, speaking of unfounded irrational statements…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1710238664

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1710238423
Do you think he is unwell? Sounds like he need some help of some sort ...

Mr K 12-03-2024 15:52
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36171907)
Do you think he is unwell? Sounds like he need some help of some sort ...
There seems to an increasing amount of mad bonkers, conspiracy theory nutters about (anybody else noticed?)
It started in the US and has spread over here. Its all social media , promoting yourself cobblers, and the gullible fall for it. Gives themselves a purpose and identity when they had none. Not sure what the solution is. People don't like being called stupid. Some of GB news' output is a symptom.

1701-e 18-03-2024 11:20
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68596973. Ofcom growing a pair eventually

Mr K 18-03-2024 12:34
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36172193)
They've said ' you've been naughty', but what are they going to do about it? Nothing is the answer. They haven’t even grown one, let alone a pair...

Dave42 18-03-2024 13:13
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36172197)
They've said ' you've been naughty', but what are they going to do about it? Nothing is the answer. They haven’t even grown one, let alone a pair...
exactly shocking

1andrew1 25-03-2024 22:16
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
A good article here on how GB News could be bad news for the Conservative Party.
Quote:
Good morning. How will GB News change British politics? That’s one of the most frequent questions I get via email.

A good way to think about it, I think, is that at present the UK has one dominant party of government, the Conservatives, which wins most elections and which, for the most part, has only lost office because of a coming together of exceptional circumstances. Its main opponent, the Labour party, is an occasional party of government.

So one way that GB News could change politics is by changing the internal passions and thoughts of the Tory party, the dominant party. But the other way it could do it is by turning the Conservative party from the dominant party to an occasional one. Some more thoughts on that below.

As George Parker and Daniel Thomas explain in their excellent piece on the broadcaster:

Conservative MPs said they sometimes received “cranky” emails from party members. “You’ll ask where did they hear this and they’ll say: ‘GB News’,” said one MP. The party is having an internal conversation formed outside the traditional media landscape. A survey by the ConservativeHome activists’ blog in January found that 57 per cent of Tory members said they regularly watched GB News, compared with 60 per cent who watched the BBC, the behemoth that traditionally dominates the news landscape.
https://www.ft.com/content/d2527415-...0-2d4d6b097c70

Hugh 28-03-2024 16:57
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-b1148208.html

Quote:
Laurence Fox has been barred from taking part in the London mayoral elections after submitting invalid nomination papers.

London Elects, the impartial organisation that oversees the City Hall elections, said that Mr Fox’s application to stand in the May 2 election was “not valid”...

...According to an email published on X by Mr Fox on Thursday night, a London Elects official told his election agents that “the Islington and Lambeth nomination papers only had nine valid subscribers, not the required 10”.

The email, apparently from Alex Conway, the deputy Greater London returning officer, added: “Three further subscribers for other boroughs could not be reconciled to voter register records.”

London Elects said in a statement on Wednesday night: “The Reclaim Party candidate’s representatives met with London Elects for the first time on Tuesday 26 March, less than 24 hours before the close of the nominations deadline. At that time, the paperwork was incomplete.

“Mr Fox’s representatives were advised to ensure that completed forms were submitted well before the Wednesday 4pm statutory deadline.

“The paperwork was submitted very shortly before 4pm. Upon inspection, the nomination forms contained errors which - the deadline having passed - were too late for Mr Fox’s team to correct.

jfman 28-03-2024 17:12
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Just like we they did to Navalny.

pip08456 28-03-2024 17:46
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36172657)
Just like we they did to Navalny.
So we can expect Fox to end up dead then.

Paul 28-03-2024 18:05
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36172657)
Just like we they did to Navalny.
We ?

Hugh 28-03-2024 18:09
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36172657)
Just like we they did to Navalny.
https://media1.tenor.com/m/kpClz6FhU...s-the-fonz.gif

---------- Post added at 18:09 ---------- Previous post was at 18:08 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36172659)
So we can expect Fox to end up dead then.
Only after being poisoned, then sent to a Gulag…


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