Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

I was hoping for Wimbledon in 4K

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Might happen, all BBC 4K has been via iPlayer though so there is no seeing of test streams prior. And I think they did it last year, but my memory is hazy on this.

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Correct

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44550307

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Some good news from Sky, who have gained the approval of Comcast to double the investment for original programmes coming out of Sky Studios, a trend that hopefully will continue.

http://www.csimagazine.com/csi/Sky-S...production.php

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BBC and Discovery complete UKTV split

BBC Studios and Discovery have completed the deal to split up the channels in their joint British TV venture, UKTV.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019...te-uktv-split/

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Discovery now own the following brands in the UK:

-Really
-TLC
-I.D.
-Quest
-DMAX
-Quest Red
-Discovery Channel
-Animal Planet
-Discovery Science
-Discovery Turbo
-Discovery History
-Good Food
-Home
-Home & Health
-Discovery Shed
-Food Network
-Travel Channel

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There will definately been some consolidation of their portfolio, and potential candidates for merging include Really/Quest Red, Home/Home & Health, Good Food/Food Network etc.

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They may even launch an new brand called "Alaska Channel" using Travel Channel slots.

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I've never understood what Turbo and Shed were meant to be, their shows would fit on other Discovery Pay TV channels. And DMAX always seemed like poorer version of Quest so I never understood why it existed in the days when it was a Pay channel.

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The BBC Red Button channels are no longer unnamed on the network (source: Digital Bit Rate), showing on Tsid9/ C032.

So we have Red Button 2-6 in standard definition, in MPEG2.
Red Button HD is strangely showing twice, once in MPEG4 and once in HEVC. Are the BBC experimenting with a non-streamed UHD channel? Or is this just an anomaly/error of services being relabeled after Eurosport 4K ended on this multiplex?

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I think you may be right, SonicMaster. I could see Really merging with Quest Red, Home, Home & Health and Discovery Shed coming together to be HGTV UK and DIY Network UK.

However, I see Good Food and Food Network working in a way which FN and the Cooking Channel do in the USA 🇺🇸. Good Food for cookery shows and Food Network for food entertainment.

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Amazon has announced its Premier league fixtures to be available on its Prime service.

https://advanced-television.com/2019...ague-fixtures/

December 3rd to 5th

Arsenal vs Brighton, Burnley vs Manchester City, Chelsea vs Aston Villa, Crystal Palace vs Bournemouth, Leicester vs Watford, Liverpool vs Everton, Manchester United vs Tottenham, Sheffield United vs Newcastle, Southampton vs Norwich, Wolves vs West Ham

December 26th to 27th

Bournemouth vs Arsenal, Aston Villa vs Norwich, Chelsea vs Southampton, Crystal Palace vs West Ham, Everton vs Burnley, Leicester vs Liverpool, Manchester United vs Newcastle, Sheffield United vs Watford, Tottenham vs Brighton, Wolves vs Manchester City

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

Wonder if they will be available on Prime UHD?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

If the Tennis is anything to go by I wouldn't hold your breath.

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Do anyone know when was the last time BT Sport broadcast anything via the Red Button?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

We know when the contract is due to run out and we know the statement that Sky made about Sky Atlantic when the BT deal was announced. There have been other reports of much improved relationships between VM and Sky. Not only that, but Sky have stated that they now wish to monetise their assets.

From this information, we have concluded that there will be a deal between Sky and Virgin this summer and that Sky Atlantic is likely to be included in that deal. UHD is bound to have been part of these discussions, and of course this will be further monetisation for Sky if agreed.

We do not yet have any further information, but these conclusions are fair ones to make. Given the secrecy that goes on in these contract negotiations, you cannot sensibly expect anyone to be absolutely certain of anything that has not been officially announced. Most of us on this forum accept that, so you really don't have to be so picky.

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Rallying was scheduled from 13-15 June - didn't look to see if it was there. WRC is often listed.

The European Games is scheduled across four of them from Saturday 22nd June onwards.

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Your Sky Atlantic conclusion isn’t reasonable on the basis of the information provided.

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Seeing the contract was up in May l would say its pretty unlikely that Sky Atlantic is coming our way but OB might think differently.

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If there were to be a possible announcement about Sky Sports UHD coming well maybe it wouldnt be too long now that the Premier League fixtures are out and the EFL fixtures due on Thursday.

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The EFL isn't shown in UHD on Sky Sports.

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Well, we will see, won't we?

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You seem to forget that Sky Atlantic is being made available to BT from this summer, by way of the Now TV app.

The fact that May has come and gone is irrelevant. The deal has most likely already been done. It's just the formal announcement we are waiting for now. That will come either later this month or next.

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That means diddly squat OB..

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Okay then......

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I don’t know how you conclude the fact May has come and gone as irrelevant, it suggests (if a deal isn’t concluded) that there’s the possibility of something snagging. Like a valuation of key content, like Sky Atlantic for example.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

Except that the May 2014 deal was implemented in July 2014. Must you argue about everything?

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It's all part of the context, Den.

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If you are inferring conclusions that cannot be substantiated - yes it's very likely that I'll return.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...6&postcount=47

Despite having the content until 2011 the extension at that point was agreed in June 2010 as part of the sale of VMTV channels.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2010...ter-vmtv-sale/

I'm not convinced Sky/Virgin are sitting at the last minute trying to extend the content agreement if there's broad agreement in place - e.g. Sky Atlantic being part of the offer. There'd be no reason not to announce it now.

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surely VM trying to get SA and sky UHD we see what happens

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I'd imagine they would, but Old Boy in another thread has Sky/Comcast under existential threat from rivals. I fail to see how expediting that process by making key content available on Virgin who are about to roll out 500MB to 13 million homes is a plan.

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A possible reason for not announcing it in May would be so Sky can take all the "glory" at the end of Game Of Thrones, for them to soak it up and enjoy it. If they give VM Sky Atlantic the moment GoT ends it makes Sky look bad to the public (maybe a bit petty) and it arguably makes it look like Sky don't hold the rest of their SA lineup in as high regard. If they hold off a month or 3 it just looks like an everyday business decision.

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I’d imagine the number of subscriptions moving around in the last few weeks due to GoT to be infinitely small. It’s only been on for eight years. I know nobody who started watching this year.

“Everyday business decisions” would be GoT going on when it’s too late if that was deemed key content.

It's all just a waiting game and speculation after speculation. To state the obvious, let's just wait and see. I would like to see Sky Atlantic personally. Also apparently, Amazon Prime day has been speculated as mid July. Maybe the app will launch on VM by then!

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The appearence of the Now TV app on BT has kept being put back and someone who works in the industry has advised that no date of implementation is currently in force. Apparently, this is due to both sides needing to agree on the finer details.

Perhaps this is connected to any agreement with VM and could explain any delay??

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I wasn't suggesting it was anything to do with subscriptions moving around. I was saying it was an exercise in managing how it looks to the public, and also spreading out their public announcements/press releases, they may prefer the way an even spread of announcements is perceived by the public and business community to a splurge and then nothing.

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Public perception doesn’t really come in to maximising shareholder value. A major TV series coming to the end of an 8 year run isn’t really going to factor into it. Nobody would change subscription service as a result of Sky being perceived to be petty or otherwise. It didn’t hurt Sky in 2007.

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I'm not sure what post you are referring to here. It is true that I have said in the past that Sky is under threat from the global players, but now that Comcast have taken over, this has diminished somewhat.

I have also criticised Sky for the lack of original content and I have said that with new streaming services being set up such as Disney+, a lot of the programmes it currently screens will migrate to those services. Whole channels, such as Sky Cinema Disney, the Disney Channel and Disney XD are under threat by that one new streaming service.

The Comcast takeover is a help to Sky because it has a library of its own, but I don't think they should be too laid back about that situation. This is a rapidly changing market.

As far as Sky making additional content available to other platforms, they have already agreed a deal with BT, so your argument falls by that one fact. Remember, Sky have said that they wish to monetise their assets. My guess is that the BT and Sky deals will become effective on the same day.

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I have quoted reasons for my assessment of the situation. It is simply my assessment, based on limited facts. I have made that very clear.

If you are one of those people who insist on clear announcements about what is coming soon to Virgin Media, then think again. VM never seem to make most of their announcements very far in advance - the Prime announcement was very much an exception. If you want that degree of certainty, go to the VM press release site, but you won't find much on there to help you. If that's all that went on this thread, it would only be a few pages long!

You are not in a position to say why there has been no announcement yet. There you are, I've just done a jfman.

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I said it wasn't about changing subscription service or one particular series. Most companies want to look good, some put a lot of effort into managing their image. Often it can be because they have a virtual monopoly of their market. Even if it doesn't pay immediate rewards a good company image may have long term benefits. Some actions can have a cumulative effect.

Some people don't use the services of certain businesses because they don't like something about them. Whether they are too big, environmental credentials, who owns the company. Many, for instance, may not now have a problem with Sky due to its change of ownership. Sky values its image, why else do that Sky Ocean Rescue thing, or fund a cycling team despite never showing the sport on their own sports channels?

I haven't been in Asda since Walmart bought them. I have avoided other companies because I didn't like their business practices, some of those companies later changed and I returned. So it's not nobody. I'm not saying it's a large percentage, but it can be a significant minority who think about stuff like that. And if you are trying to maximise your assets you want to at least try to attract everybody.

Timing of information release is as important as the information itself, e.g. there's the burying of certain news on a bad news day so that it won't be paid attention to. I'm not saying this is that, just that it's an example of timing being important.

So in the grand scheme of things, I can see a company spreading out good news press releases, it's a low effort strategy, it allows each piece of good news to be recognised rather than buried in a wave of information.

This might not be happening, I could be wrong, it's just a possibility, a suggestion.

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So Disney , Fox and HBO remove their content deals from Comcast , Sky UK and Sky in Europe how much do they then save ? Because I'd imagine it's significant amounts.

That's money they can then redistribute as they see fit with things like more original content and more movies etc.

I'm pretty sure we'll also see more purchases , I think Discovery would be a great addition for Comcast.

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It could work out that way, muppetman, but as you know, Disney is currently taking its content off Netflix, and it is clear from the reducing number of new dramas coming to existing TV channels that streaming services are hoarding content for themselves.

I do agree that some services may choose to distribute some of their material to other services and TV channels, but I don't see much evidence of that yet.

In the meantime, I see that WarnerMedia is aiming to acquire loads of new content from Bad Robot. Content acquisition by the streamers as opposed to dissemination seems to be the name of the game at present.

http://www.csimagazine.com/csi/WarnerMedia-reportedly-close-to-$500m-content-deal-with-Bad-Robot.php

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If Warner , Disney/Fox remove content from Comcast/Sky then Comcast/Sky no longer pays them the fees it currently does meaning a lot of money they currently outlay is saved allowing them to invest in their own original content as opposed to buying third party.

What's hard to understand about that , I've reread your post and must admit I'm struggling to understand what you are on about.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

I am a prime example of this (no pun intended)!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

Welcome to the club.

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Well, I'm having some trouble understanding your point, too. You say that Disney and the like will lose money by taking their programmes back for themselves, which is true, and it's already happening to Netflix. What you are forgetting is that the streaming services will be recouping that money with the new subscriptions they will be getting as the new services roll out.

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What you are forgetting is that streaming services could recoup that money with new subscriptions. There is reasonable risk in giving up guaranteed income for a contract period then relying on your own sales.

Where does the 'new' money come from? Pay-tv has a fixed pot of revenue to be shared out - content providers going down the direct to subscriber route is just a different way of controlling the distribution of it.

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I said nothing of the sort I said Comcast save money as they are no longer paying these third party contracts allowing them to plough money into their own content.

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Hundreds of millions in the UK alone. Across all Comcast territories it'll be billions a year to invest in content.

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Oh, I see, thank you. I don't disagree with that, but I do have concern that Sky is only doubling the money it puts into its originals. I think they need to do much better than that, although they will at least have the Comcast library to fall back on.

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“Only doubling”. You are acting as if Sky are the only Comcast arm engaged in content production. You are simply continuing to distort facts, evidence, reality and economics to evidence your extreme vision of the future.

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I am not missing that fact, jfman, I have already stated that streaming services could give broadcast rights to TV providers and even to other streaming services.

However, that does not appear to be what is happening. We are already seeing Disney take back their shows from Netflix, for example. What makes you think they will renew their contracts with Sky and others when they run out?

The money will be made from the new subscription services, as I said before, and those that provide an advertisement option will also make money from those commercials.

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Sky already has access to Comcast shows, but that isn't sufficient to substitute for the tribe that is shown on the existing Sky channels. Subscriber growth will only be enjoyed if Sky is able to demonstrate quality as well as quantity against the vast choice available from the streamers.

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So first you say Sky ain't putting enough money towards content and when they double their resources towards more content you still grumble.

It seems you are still reading the same old book with the same old chapter in it...

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Ah the straw man again. Why would Disney keep its content on Sky? I didn’t say that it would. My point, as ever, is that Comcast are well placed to adapt.

Sky has access to Comcast content, what’s to make you think if Sky in the UK are “doubling” investment the same isn’t replicated elsewhere?

I like that Sky have to demonstrate quality and quantity but streamers do not, they obviously automatically do by virtue of their distribution method. :confused:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

The first 'Virgin Media Original' (actually a partnership between STARZ and Liberty Global) launches in a few weeks...

'Virgin Media customers will be able to watch The Rook exclusively from Monday 1 July. It will also be available on Virgin TV Ultra HD (CH 999). Plus, if you miss out, you’ll be able to catch up on the Box Set of the entire series in On Demand.'

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...how-first-look

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I merely said that it was not sufficient.

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You've only got to compare the content to see that what I have said is true.

What's this constant 'straw man' refrain? I'm glad that you have finally acknowledged that Sky may well have to give up some of its content to the streamers. This could affect whole channels. But doubling the Sky programme budget, while welcome, is unlikely to make up the deficiency.

If Comcast were to do the same, then yes, that would make a big difference. But they have not said that they would, so there's an assumption you have made.

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I really don't think Sky deal with Virgin Media is up this summer. I really think Sky did sign an new deal two years when Sky Sports launch two new sports (Sky Sports Football and Sky Sports Action) channels.

I think the deal may be up in 2020 to 2022.

I will carry on thinking this way until I see any new Sky Channels testing on Digital Bit Rate.

DBR says Virgin Media has got four streams free right now due to MPEG4 (And we think it will be up to six as early as next week,)

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There you go OB you might believe others now...

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Though I think that is logical thinking, I think what is happening, or rather not happening, regarding the Sky Cinema channels may indicate something on the horizon, even if it's not for Sky Basics.

What am I on about? Well, it's rather odd that all the Sky Cinema SD channels are all on the same multiplex/frequency and haven't been part of the MPEG4 switching, yet the Sky Sports SD channels, with one exception (and I'm not counting Red Button), are all switched over to MPEG4 and scattered all over the multiplexes. The one Sky Sports SD exception is of course Sky Sports Racing, and it was moved onto the same multiplex/frequency as the SD Cinema channels a month or two ago.

To me this is likely to mean one thing, Sky Cinema is going HD Only on VM and so is Sky Sports Racing, so Virgin Media don't see any point in switching their SD channels to MPEG4 if they are going to be switched off soon.

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Am I still right in thinking you still need to pay extra for Sky Sports HD Channels?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

yes MB

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We think Virgin Media will move the rest of the channels to MPEG within the next THREE weeks.

With the next update happen on Monday.

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I was really asking about Astra UK.

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The constant straw man refrain if you continue to argue a point that I didn’t actually make because it’s easier to argue against than the one I did.

I have to laugh at you criticising me for making assumptions - your entire argument is subjective up to and including the quality of content on streaming services.

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Not on Sky, they raised the price and removed the add on.

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It may have to give up third party content not its own , what is it with you and the streamers it sounds like some cult hippy movement.:D

Don't forget Sky is a streamer also.

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My reference to the Disney issue was in answer to your point, to demonstrate that what I am saying is true.

It's a pity that you couldn't make that connection.

My arguments are based on what I have seen reported and what anyone could naturally conclude from that, but it is a matter for discussion. Your constant protestations that everything that is posted is wrong never seems to be backed up with links to assist people to believe that you may have a point.

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Well, isn't that what I have been saying all along?

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No hence the part of the quote in bold

The point we made was should that happen it will just invest the money saved which would be a tidy sum into its own content.

Don't forget the removal of third party content will impact all the streamers also.;)

Disney's ownership of Hulu could see vast amounts of third party content removed in the future as will the likes of Netflix and Amazon.

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I don’t need to back up my analysis with opinion pieces from digital marketing companies. I don’t agree “anyone” could naturally reach the same conclusions at all. In fact, I think most unbiased observers would agree with me that Sky/Comcast as an incumbent in many markets will be well placed to adapt to the future whatever it holds.

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But I agree with the bit in bold! I am not arguing against that.

Nor am I arguing against your point that Sky would have to invest in its own programming faced with the loss of third party content.

I myself have pointed out that Netflix will lose its Disney content.

So we agree on all points, then. So why are we arguing?::Peace:

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Good luck with that, then.

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I fail to see what benefit "luck" would be to me. I've got economics on my side and you have speculation on yours.

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The economics of my arguments are perfectly sound, jfman.

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Thanks I did think so - I hope Virgin Media UK do the same when the time comes to sign an new deal.

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I'd be grateful if you could share the detail then. :)

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I'm not sure if I've understood all the arguments being made over the last few pages, but here's my stance again on things:

If and it is a if, the other media cos like Disney withhold their content from Sky in the future to use on their own streaming services, then it obviously will impact Sky's linear tv service.

Comcast has an immense amount of content under its Universal and NBC arms, but there is no way Sky can run a dozen plus film channels with just Universal content, something has to give somewhere. Which is why I think over time Sky's linear service will morph into a pure streaming service or a hybrid linear/streaming service.

Lets see if Sky actually launches their full IPTV service in the UK now. A few years ago when Sky first mentioned it, it sounded a good idea, now it would be madness. Better to concentrate efforts on streaming and let someone else handle all the god channels, shopping channels etc. Also, lets see if Sky want/are allowed to aggregate the other streamers on their service.

The elephant in the room is whether the media cos can make enough dosh by removing their own content from existing pay tv services/linear channels in favour of keeping the stuff on their own streamers and essentially ripping up a lifetime of doing things. It's a major risk for them, which is why they're all late to the streaming game and to take on Netflix.

They may all succeed, or they may not, but on these sort of things I just get back to basics. If people want Star Wars, they'll go to whatever place has it. The same for all other "key" content. As Netflix has shown with Friends and why Netflix has paid Warner huge amounts of dosh to keep Friends on Netflix for another year is that not all content is the same. Some is more equal than others (excuse the Animal Farm quote there) like Friends, Star Wars, Star Trek, Game of Thrones being in that category.



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I think the "key" bit is the snag here regarding valuations and carriage negotiations.

Is Sky Atlantic key now that Game of Thrones has ended and Warner will likely keep the new Game of Thrones show exclusively on their streaming service when it launches?

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The deal Sky made was for all HBO content (that wasn't on other channels at the time the deal was made) up to a certain date. Warner wouldn't be able to withhold a particular show, Sky would get the new GoT spin-off if it launches within the period covered by the agreement. Whether that would cover the life of that show or just the years within the larger agreement I have no idea.

I have a vague recollection it was a 6 year deal when the HBO deal was made, it was certainly a long deal.

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Sky will have exclusive first-run rights to broadcast shows such as Game of Thrones and True Detective to 21 million Sky subscribers across Europe until 2020.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-within-europe

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

Do you recall when the deal was made?

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Oops...

Should've read this post before making mine! Thanks MB.:)

So, it's unlikely the new GoT show will be covered by the existing deal.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

I have noticed that a show I would like to see is coming in the next few weeks but beyond the current epg is there a way I can flag it?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

Wishlist is the only way until it actually appears.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

Although not referred to directly in these 2 very interesting articles, but with the imminent arrival of Amazon Prime Video on the V6 and the Cloud UI Update for the Hub 3, do you think VM might use this opportunity to upgrade the Tivo UI to the new Horizon 4 UI at the same time?
https://www.t3.com/news/virgin-tv-v6...-only-dream-of
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...d-routers.html

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

If you know the date, time and channel you can set a future manual recording. It will be listed as something like 'to be announced" until the EPG is populated.

You can then either leave it like that, or cancel it and set it to record from the EPG eg if you jeed to set a Series Link.

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MTV OMG becomes MTV Pride from Monday 1st to Sunday 7th July.

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Hi I wonder if some light can be shed. My mum has sky tv, and was going to ditch sky premium channels and was told maybe not to as bt sport is coming to sky sports group of channels for free, then he realised my mum was under contract. He knows she doesn’t want to stay beyond 9th March with sky premium but tried to trick me with a speed boost and resigning a new contract of 18 months

Has anybody heard of bt sports coming to sky sports for free

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

And on top of that, there is the more recent HBO Sky co-production joint venture that has given us Chernobyl.
https://variety.com/2017/tv/global/s...igh-end-drama-
1202391006/
https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/m...ama-powerhouse

Of course, both Sky and HBO have been taken over since the deal was signed but the deal is still very much in place with The Third Day set to start filming soon.

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The official press release about Sky wholesaling BT Sport just says "For Sky customers, they’ll be able to include BT Sport as part of their overall Sky subscription for the first time." The date mentioned is "early 2019" and we're halfway through the year with no confirmed launch date yet.

There have been rumours that Sky might package BT Sport with some of its other packages but there's been nothing definitive on this. I suspect Sky would have to raise the cost of any package that included BT Sport to cover the extra costs though.
https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/m...of-tv-channels

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

Sky recently increased its TV prices across the entire user base.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

BT prices up too:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ear-price-rise

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

Those on the BT Max plan were told it will be an extra £4 per month from July - or if you take out a new 18 month contract they will freeze the current price for the duration - including any current discounts it would seem.

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The rumour on DS Forums was BT Sport would cost those who took Sky Sports £14.99 and £24.99 for those who don't sub to Sky Sports if true I'd like to think that includes HD and Multiscreen.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

You'd think so, eh? I hope you're right, for their sakes. Everyone needs HD and multiscreen these days (apart from the Mr K's of this world)! :D

No offence, Mr K!:sorry:

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£24.99 for those who don't subscribe to SKY Sports doesn't sound right. I know it's just a rumour but pricing it cheaper than SKY Sports doesn't make good business sense. Why sell your rivals product cheaper than your own on your own platform?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

I’d guess that if you are Sky to the “non-Sky Sports subscriber” at that price it’s high enough most would opt for the usually discounted Sky Sports.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

Don't shoot the messenger , as I said someone posted it on DS Forum the truth is we'll just have to wait for an official press release.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 

It is currently £30 to subscribe to BT Sport in HD on Sky - so £5 cheaper could be correct which £15 off for Sky Sport subscribers.

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That statement makes sense if they were the same product but Sky Sports has a far larger budget and more content so you would expect it to cost more. That being said, Sky is currently offering Sky Sports with HD to customers for £23pm so that would undercut the suggested £25pm price for BT Sport.

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I'd guess at those price points it'd be far more likely a subscriber Sky Sports or takes both (at £38 I'm guessing on offer) than pays £25 for BT alone.

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Not if you want to watch Moto GP and have no interest in football, circket and golf

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That’s why I said “most” and not “all”, there will always be a narrow set of exceptions.

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I got excited then but it seems only like the announcement is coming soon....i just wish they said "its out july 15th" or something. They know how to drag a release out!

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I can't tell what this is, maybe a disguised new service rather than a move within the network, but there are new HD streams on multiplex/stream alongside Premier Sports 2 HD now.

One is an HD stream and the screengrab has a VM Love logo from its promo reel.
The other is an HD stream with a Sky Cinema logo on its screengrab.

Showing on Tsid13/C047 on Digital Bit Rate website.

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I posted about this a few days ago on the 21st along with info about the "Cloud" update with the Hub 3. So I was thinking it maybe something to do with the cloud capabilities of the new Horizon 4 UI? Do you know anything more about that?

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Liberty Global has stated on twitter the horizon 4 ui will be on the virgin media v6 box by the end of the year

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Well, I hope they are fully testing a process to convert my 400+ series links to however this new software achieves the same.

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We have even more then 400 series links so one would hope there will be a smooth software transition.

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Not a channel I watch, but the EPG has True Crime (ch 212) listed as "No Longer Available" on Sunday 30/06 from 6.00am.
Can't remember seeing a notice on here.

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Not heard anything about it, but it would be unsurprising. It's not on Freesat, it's only on the Manchester multiplex on Freeview and they can just move the programming to Sony Crime Channel.

Question is, if it is closing, will Sony use the space for another channel on Virgin Media? There are a few +1s of theirs they could use the stream for on VM.

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I had a quick look through the ratings for last month to guess what Sony would do if True Crime is closing. It could be it's just closing on VM but I doubt it.

True Crime had a 0.03 rating last month.
Of their channels VM doesn't have, the ratings are as follows.
Movies4Men+1 0.07
Pop+1 0.02
Pop Max 0.05
Pop Max+1 0.01
Sony Movie Channel+1 0.04
Sony Crime Channel+1 0.02
Tiny Pop+1 0.02
True Movies+1 0.02

From that Movies4Men+1 or Pop Max are the obvious candidates. Both are on Freeview, but with limited coverage, both being on the Local multiplex.

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Got an email from Virgin as a survey about a 'new' box, combining Netflix, Prime, 6/7 tuners, how much would I be willing to pay, etc.

Looked more like Horizon than Tivo.